Calories Post-dog
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I am sorry you had an accident and am glad you are ok! I would plan on eating at maintenance until you are recovered.0
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The dog owner should 100% cover the medical expenses.
Yes, *kitten* happens. But it's still your own responsibility. Our dog ran and attacked another dog one day, and the leash snapped out of my husband's hand... Were we supposed to tell that dog owner 'oh sorry, *kitten* happens'? No. We paid the vet expenses for her dog. Because it's our dog, our responsibility, and the right thing to do.
Of course, if it's a stray... well...
I view a dog viciously attacking a person or another dog as entirely different from a dog accidently running into a bike. I doubt that the dog really wanted to run into the bike and injure himself, but accidents happen.0 -
The dog owner should 100% cover the medical expenses.
Yes, *kitten* happens. But it's still your own responsibility. Our dog ran and attacked another dog one day, and the leash snapped out of my husband's hand... Were we supposed to tell that dog owner 'oh sorry, *kitten* happens'? No. We paid the vet expenses for her dog. Because it's our dog, our responsibility, and the right thing to do.
Of course, if it's a stray... well...
I view a dog viciously attacking a person or another dog as entirely different from a dog accidently running into a bike. I doubt that the dog really wanted to run into the bike and injure himself, but accidents happen.
Yes, but the law can't cater to every single scenario. What if a dog off leash runs out and bites someone? What if a dog off leash runs out in front of a car and the driver swerves to miss it and hits something? What if the car behind the driver then rear ends the driver? These things cost money, time, pain....you can't expect someone who had nothing to do with the original problem (the dog being off leash) to take an additional hit just because it's a dog and we all love dogs.
Dogs need to be on a leash, no matter what. Anything that happens while a dog is off leash is the owner's responsibility. That's just the law. Follow the law, and it won't be a problem for you.
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To answer your question, I would eat at maintenance. I worried about gaining weight when I had hip surgery and couldn't do much of anything for the first 3-4 weeks and then just short walks for 2 more. Someone else said that the body would use more calories to heal itself. I have no idea if it is true, but I wasn't real diligent on my diet and did not gain a pound in the 6 weeks out of my workout routine.
Hope you heal fast!
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The dog owner should 100% cover the medical expenses.
Yes, *kitten* happens. But it's still your own responsibility. Our dog ran and attacked another dog one day, and the leash snapped out of my husband's hand... Were we supposed to tell that dog owner 'oh sorry, *kitten* happens'? No. We paid the vet expenses for her dog. Because it's our dog, our responsibility, and the right thing to do.
Of course, if it's a stray... well...
I view a dog viciously attacking a person or another dog as entirely different from a dog accidently running into a bike. I doubt that the dog really wanted to run into the bike and injure himself, but accidents happen.
Yes, but the law can't cater to every single scenario. What if a dog off leash runs out and bites someone? What if a dog off leash runs out in front of a car and the driver swerves to miss it and hits something? What if the car behind the driver then rear ends the driver? These things cost money, time, pain....you can't expect someone who had nothing to do with the original problem (the dog being off leash) to take an additional hit just because it's a dog and we all love dogs.
Dogs need to be on a leash, no matter what. Anything that happens while a dog is off leash is the owner's responsibility. That's just the law. Follow the law, and it won't be a problem for you.
vicious dogs should be put to sleep imo. they are a tragedy waiting to happen. i don't feel the same way about a dog that accidently runs into a bike.
i don't know what the law is. just my personal feelings.
this is all kind of irrelevant anyway since the o.p. has no idea who owns the dog.0 -
The dog owner should 100% cover the medical expenses.
Yes, *kitten* happens. But it's still your own responsibility. Our dog ran and attacked another dog one day, and the leash snapped out of my husband's hand... Were we supposed to tell that dog owner 'oh sorry, *kitten* happens'? No. We paid the vet expenses for her dog. Because it's our dog, our responsibility, and the right thing to do.
Of course, if it's a stray... well...
I view a dog viciously attacking a person or another dog as entirely different from a dog accidently running into a bike. I doubt that the dog really wanted to run into the bike and injure himself, but accidents happen.
Yes, but the law can't cater to every single scenario. What if a dog off leash runs out and bites someone? What if a dog off leash runs out in front of a car and the driver swerves to miss it and hits something? What if the car behind the driver then rear ends the driver? These things cost money, time, pain....you can't expect someone who had nothing to do with the original problem (the dog being off leash) to take an additional hit just because it's a dog and we all love dogs.
Dogs need to be on a leash, no matter what. Anything that happens while a dog is off leash is the owner's responsibility. That's just the law. Follow the law, and it won't be a problem for you.
vicious dogs should be put to sleep imo. they are a tragedy waiting to happen. i don't feel the same way about a dog that accidently runs into a bike.
i don't know what the law is. just my personal feelings.
this is all kind of irrelevant anyway since the o.p. has no idea who owns the dog.
It is irrelevant in this case, but it is absolutely the law. It is what it is because it needs to cover a wide range of scenarios to protect the public.
There was a case here a while back here where the dog off leash ran out, caused an accident, DIED and the owners were still responsible for the damage to the car.
Is it fair? Well, they admitted to knowing the law and they knew the dog should be on its leash when not in the home. So, kinda.
Does it totally suck for them? Absolutely. I can't think of anything more heartbreaking than losing one of my pets except, of course, losing one of my humans.
Would I, as a dog lover, pursue them for them for it? It depends. If it's a couple hundred, probably not. If we are talking thousands, then absolutely. Why should I be out that money? What if I didn't have the money? I didn't cause the problem, it wasn't my dog...
But that's why we have homeowner policies. Insurance may cover it.0 -
I suspect that any extra calories used in healing are far, far less than the calories you're no longer burning from being laid up. If it helps.
Get well soon. That's some serious stuff. I don't cycle anymore due to the dangers. Too much going on in this city.0 -
This thread scares the bejeezus out of me. I'm already clumsy on my bike on a straightaway and a dry road. I just have to hope no dogs collide with me while I'm dusting off the rust. I remember when I was a little kid we had dogs, horses, four wheelers, cars, and runners to dodge and all was well. I should have never stopped riding my bike!0
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The dog owner should 100% cover the medical expenses.
Yes, *kitten* happens. But it's still your own responsibility. Our dog ran and attacked another dog one day, and the leash snapped out of my husband's hand... Were we supposed to tell that dog owner 'oh sorry, *kitten* happens'? No. We paid the vet expenses for her dog. Because it's our dog, our responsibility, and the right thing to do.
Of course, if it's a stray... well...
I view a dog viciously attacking a person or another dog as entirely different from a dog accidently running into a bike. I doubt that the dog really wanted to run into the bike and injure himself, but accidents happen.
Yes, but the law can't cater to every single scenario. What if a dog off leash runs out and bites someone? What if a dog off leash runs out in front of a car and the driver swerves to miss it and hits something? What if the car behind the driver then rear ends the driver? These things cost money, time, pain....you can't expect someone who had nothing to do with the original problem (the dog being off leash) to take an additional hit just because it's a dog and we all love dogs.
Dogs need to be on a leash, no matter what. Anything that happens while a dog is off leash is the owner's responsibility. That's just the law. Follow the law, and it won't be a problem for you.
vicious dogs should be put to sleep imo. they are a tragedy waiting to happen. i don't feel the same way about a dog that accidently runs into a bike.
i don't know what the law is. just my personal feelings.
this is all kind of irrelevant anyway since the o.p. has no idea who owns the dog.
It is irrelevant in this case, but it is absolutely the law. It is what it is because it needs to cover a wide range of scenarios to protect the public.
There was a case here a while back here where the dog off leash ran out, caused an accident, DIED and the owners were still responsible for the damage to the car.
Is it fair? Well, they admitted to knowing the law and they knew the dog should be on its leash when not in the home. So, kinda.
Does it totally suck for them? Absolutely. I can't think of anything more heartbreaking than losing one of my pets except, of course, losing one of my humans.
Would I, as a dog lover, pursue them for them for it? It depends. If it's a couple hundred, probably not. If we are talking thousands, then absolutely. Why should I be out that money? What if I didn't have the money? I didn't cause the problem, it wasn't my dog...
But that's why we have homeowner policies. Insurance may cover it.
fair enough. not sure what i would do in this situation. it bugs me though.0 -
I'm so sorry to hear of your accident Timothy and hope you have some good pain meds. What a piece of bad luck.
I'd agree with eating at maintenance. I lost major amounts of weight whilst healing from surgery - and the crashing off of weight, compounded with the wounds, left me weak as a kitten and prone to infection.
Your body has had a real shock and needs looking after - take care.0 -
I love MFP. I also agree - eat at or very slightly under sedentary maintenance.0
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I'm so sorry to hear of your accident Timothy and hope you have some good pain meds. What a piece of bad luck.
I'd agree with eating at maintenance. I lost major amounts of weight whilst healing from surgery - and the crashing off of weight, compounded with the wounds, left me weak as a kitten and prone to infection.
Your body has had a real shock and needs looking after - take care.
Fortunately, I didn't have to have surgery, and though I have moments of intense pain, it is mostly manageable. I'm finding that I'm more tired than normal. That may be an indication that I'm burning more calories.
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The dog owner should 100% cover the medical expenses.
Yes, *kitten* happens. But it's still your own responsibility. Our dog ran and attacked another dog one day, and the leash snapped out of my husband's hand... Were we supposed to tell that dog owner 'oh sorry, *kitten* happens'? No. We paid the vet expenses for her dog. Because it's our dog, our responsibility, and the right thing to do.
Of course, if it's a stray... well...
Having your dog attack another dog is very different than dog got loose and someone hit it. Where I live, if your dog bites another dog, you are legally responsible for all vet bills related to the attack. If your dog was not registered with the dog warden, that is an additional fine. No rabies vaccine? Dog is in quarantine for the mandatory amount of time and you have to pay for it. Your dog attacks another dog after the first bite? They are taken away and usually euthanized. Pretty much the same if you dog bites a person. Of course, there are always loop holes and it depends on if the bite/attack happened on your property or not.0 -
I think our bodies will feel tired when healing, just because feeling tired keeps us sedentary which is helpful for healing. But the actual processes of bones re-fusing and muscles healing from bruises don't seem like they'd be very energy intensive in themselves. Just that they'd benefit from lack of movement occurring simultaneously. But I've never seen it suggested that one burns more calories when healing. Usually I've seen the opposite-- that lack of activity and appetite dials it all back a notch.TimothyFish wrote: »I'm so sorry to hear of your accident Timothy and hope you have some good pain meds. What a piece of bad luck.
I'd agree with eating at maintenance. I lost major amounts of weight whilst healing from surgery - and the crashing off of weight, compounded with the wounds, left me weak as a kitten and prone to infection.
Your body has had a real shock and needs looking after - take care.
Fortunately, I didn't have to have surgery, and though I have moments of intense pain, it is mostly manageable. I'm finding that I'm more tired than normal. That may be an indication that I'm burning more calories.
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WalkingAlong wrote: »
I think our bodies will feel tired when healing, just because feeling tired keeps us sedentary which is helpful for healing. But the actual processes of bones re-fusing and muscles healing from bruises don't seem like they'd be very energy intensive in themselves. Just that they'd benefit from lack of movement occurring simultaneously. But I've never seen it suggested that one burns more calories when healing. Usually I've seen the opposite-- that lack of activity and appetite dials it all back a notch.TimothyFish wrote: »I'm so sorry to hear of your accident Timothy and hope you have some good pain meds. What a piece of bad luck.
I'd agree with eating at maintenance. I lost major amounts of weight whilst healing from surgery - and the crashing off of weight, compounded with the wounds, left me weak as a kitten and prone to infection.
Your body has had a real shock and needs looking after - take care.
Fortunately, I didn't have to have surgery, and though I have moments of intense pain, it is mostly manageable. I'm finding that I'm more tired than normal. That may be an indication that I'm burning more calories.
I don't think there is any question that the healing process requires additional energy. Cell division takes energy. Raising the body temperature requires energy. But I don't know how much more energy it takes. Then there are other things, like having to use different muscles to accomplish ordinary tasks. But that may well be offset by the reduced activity level.0 -
I also think that healing requires limited movement and more rest. Weight loss shouldn't be anyone's priority at that point. Getting better should be. Maintenance for a few days or weeks might delay your weight loss goal by those few days or weeks, true. The added calories burned probably won't be enough to compensate. But that's a small price to pay for your health.0
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atypicalsmith wrote: »
The dog didn't have an accident; its owner did for letting it run free in the road. The owner of the dog should have been sued for this, but of course, there's no way of knowing who the negligent owner is. My father, when he taught me to drive, emphasized that NO ANIMAL is worth more than MY LIFE. If an animal is in the road, whether tamed or wild, do not swerve, do not slam on your brakes, and if you hit it, oh, well. Just last year three teenagers died from swerving to avoid a freaking raccoon on the road.
Timothy's accident was completely avoidable had the dog's owner been responsible enough to contain the dog in a fenced back yard or in the house.
Sued? Really?!? Wow people will sue over anything these days. Also- how do you know the dog was owned? He could have been a stray.
Completely avoidable? Really? Again, it could have been a stray. Glad you have psychic powers to know if was completely avoidable. Along the line of this argument, one could say he was at fault as well. He could have been paying attention better and seen the dog (not saying you actually did anything wron OP, just pointing out the absurdity of this post).
If I were the owner, I would offer to pay for medical expenses, seeing as my dog was off leash. Accidents happen, but it doesn't mean I am not responsible as owner.
So as the cyclist would you offer the pay the dogs medical bills? What if it was a dog sitter that accidently let the out? Or a small child who didn't know better? After all, they coul easy saw he should have been able to see the dog (especially if a bug breed) if he was paying attention (again, not saying he didn't but they could easily argue that).
This is asanine, so I won't bother. Dogs are supposed to be on leash, period. And I am a dog lover.
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I badly fractured my pelvis years ago (requiring two surgeries, plates, screws and God knows what else but I light up metal detectors). I hadn't been trying to lose weight prior (I was actually pregnant when the "accident" happened, while being born a month early my daughter was fine), anyways. I was told to not try to lose weight, (which did happen anyways because the pain killed my appetite). Based on that I would agree with everyone who said eat at maintenance or slightly below for your size and activity level. I wish you a speedy recovery0
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I'm not sure how much of this is due to the injury and how much is other factors, but I weigh 5 lbs less today than I did two weeks ago on the day it happened. But I wouldn't recommend this as a diet plan. Just the medical expenses I've seen so far are right at $8000.0
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Amanda4change wrote: »I badly fractured my pelvis years ago (requiring two surgeries, plates, screws and God knows what else but I light up metal detectors). I hadn't been trying to lose weight prior (I was actually pregnant when the "accident" happened, while being born a month early my daughter was fine), anyways. I was told to not try to lose weight, (which did happen anyways because the pain killed my appetite). Based on that I would agree with everyone who said eat at maintenance or slightly below for your size and activity level. I wish you a speedy recovery
Me too with the pelvic fractures and metal detectors. I lost well over 10 lbs during the months I was in a wheel chair, presumably from muscle atrophy, I guess. But maybe also the healing process.
It was customary among my family and friends to bring food and sweets to the sick and injured. In spite of all those goodies, I still lost weight
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TimothyFish wrote: »Just the medical expenses I've seen so far are right at $8000.
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I hope you're not on the hook for paying for that personally.
No, not all of it. I have insurance to pay part of it, but my bank account is still going to take a significant hit.0 -
Nah, because I'm scared of them (my original comment was in jest). Was chased by a dog bigger than I was when I was little plus my close aunt and uncle had their arms nearly torn off by dogs (I know it doesn't represent all dogs but I can't help it). I also don't jive well with their energy, tongues, odours, or fur...
I wouldn't say my dislike of dogs is misplaced. I have my reasons. It's the same as dog lovers not liking cats because they scratch too much or something. A person doesn't HAVE to like all animals ever in the world.0 -
no idea re the calories but I would suggest eating as clean as possible and ensuring that you get food stuff that is nutrient rich and possible calcium rich too to help with the healing process, while also enjoying a little (not too much ) of what you really fancy as you are in for a boring and challenging time while you heal. Good luck with it. If you are weighing yourself weekly you can always readjust a little but don't cut down too much, just eat good quality.0
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atypicalsmith wrote: »
The dog didn't have an accident; its owner did for letting it run free in the road. The owner of the dog should have been sued for this, but of course, there's no way of knowing who the negligent owner is. My father, when he taught me to drive, emphasized that NO ANIMAL is worth more than MY LIFE. If an animal is in the road, whether tamed or wild, do not swerve, do not slam on your brakes, and if you hit it, oh, well. Just last year three teenagers died from swerving to avoid a freaking raccoon on the road.
Timothy's accident was completely avoidable had the dog's owner been responsible enough to contain the dog in a fenced back yard or in the house.
Sued? Really?!? Wow people will sue over anything these days. Also- how do you know the dog was owned? He could have been a stray.
Completely avoidable? Really? Again, it could have been a stray. Glad you have psychic powers to know if was completely avoidable. Along the line of this argument, one could say he was at fault as well. He could have been paying attention better and seen the dog (not saying you actually did anything wron OP, just pointing out the absurdity of this post).
If I were the owner, I would offer to pay for medical expenses, seeing as my dog was off leash. Accidents happen, but it doesn't mean I am not responsible as owner.
So as the cyclist would you offer the pay the dogs medical bills? What if it was a dog sitter that accidently let the out? Or a small child who didn't know better? After all, they coul easy saw he should have been able to see the dog (especially if a bug breed) if he was paying attention (again, not saying he didn't but they could easily argue that).
This is asanine, so I won't bother. Dogs are supposed to be on leash, period. And I am a dog lover.
So a stray should be on a leash? Sorry, but I find this reply asinine. The world isn't perfect.0 -
Nah, because I'm scared of them (my original comment was in jest). Was chased by a dog bigger than I was when I was little plus my close aunt and uncle had their arms nearly torn off by dogs (I know it doesn't represent all dogs but I can't help it). I also don't jive well with their energy, tongues, odours, or fur...
I wouldn't say my dislike of dogs is misplaced. I have my reasons. It's the same as dog lovers not liking cats because they scratch too much or something. A person doesn't HAVE to like all animals ever in the world.
True. Animal love isn't a requirement to be a lovable person. Some animal lovers go a little overboard with their expectations from other humans toward animals. (I don't mean you personally Aviva)
I love dogs and most animals excluding snakes, certain rodents and cold blooded species. Cats I don't like. They make me shudder, instinctively. Unless they're declawed and as affectionate and approachable as dogs. Then I love them.
But if a cat is catty with the standoffishness and does the pouncing out of nowhere routine, I can't stand them. This includes a lot of them.
I was once standing on a porch ringing my friend's doorbell and all of a sudden a cat I didn't even know jumped on my shoulder and just stood there. He was laying in wait on one of the upper beams of the porch. I almost had a heart attack. Maybe the cat thought it was funny but I didn't see the humor in it at all. Except now I do, but still. Damn cats...
Cats have their own personalities. I have two, both the same age, adopted at the same time, from the same litter. The one is as friendly as can be and does not understand the concept of personal space. She will even shower with me if I leave the bathroom door open. The other is a scardy cat. He so much as hears a bump and he runs and hides. People don't even realize I have a second cat lol. He is only friendly with me, and very demanding when no one is around.0 -
I think the suggestion to switch your goal to sedentary is probably the best idea in this case.0
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atypicalsmith wrote: »
The dog didn't have an accident; its owner did for letting it run free in the road. The owner of the dog should have been sued for this, but of course, there's no way of knowing who the negligent owner is. My father, when he taught me to drive, emphasized that NO ANIMAL is worth more than MY LIFE. If an animal is in the road, whether tamed or wild, do not swerve, do not slam on your brakes, and if you hit it, oh, well. Just last year three teenagers died from swerving to avoid a freaking raccoon on the road.
Timothy's accident was completely avoidable had the dog's owner been responsible enough to contain the dog in a fenced back yard or in the house.
Sued? Really?!? Wow people will sue over anything these days. Also- how do you know the dog was owned? He could have been a stray.
Completely avoidable? Really? Again, it could have been a stray. Glad you have psychic powers to know if was completely avoidable. Along the line of this argument, one could say he was at fault as well. He could have been paying attention better and seen the dog (not saying you actually did anything wron OP, just pointing out the absurdity of this post).
If I were the owner, I would offer to pay for medical expenses, seeing as my dog was off leash. Accidents happen, but it doesn't mean I am not responsible as owner.
So as the cyclist would you offer the pay the dogs medical bills? What if it was a dog sitter that accidently let the out? Or a small child who didn't know better? After all, they coul easy saw he should have been able to see the dog (especially if a bug breed) if he was paying attention (again, not saying he didn't but they could easily argue that).
This is asanine, so I won't bother. Dogs are supposed to be on leash, period. And I am a dog lover.
So a stray should be on a leash? Sorry, but I find this reply asinine. The world isn't perfect.
I'm obviously not talking about a stray. I said if it were my dog, I would offer to pay. And I would. No the world isn't perfect, but it would be better if humans would act responsibly when it came to pets.
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TimothyFish wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »Just the medical expenses I've seen so far are right at $8000.
!!!!
I hope you're not on the hook for paying for that personally.
No, not all of it. I have insurance to pay part of it, but my bank account is still going to take a significant hit.
I'm sorry this happened. I agree wit the others about switching to maintainence for proper healing. Best wishes!
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Nah, because I'm scared of them (my original comment was in jest). Was chased by a dog bigger than I was when I was little plus my close aunt and uncle had their arms nearly torn off by dogs (I know it doesn't represent all dogs but I can't help it). I also don't jive well with their energy, tongues, odours, or fur...
I wouldn't say my dislike of dogs is misplaced. I have my reasons. It's the same as dog lovers not liking cats because they scratch too much or something. A person doesn't HAVE to like all animals ever in the world.
True. Animal love isn't a requirement to be a lovable person. Some animal lovers go a little overboard with their expectations from other humans toward animals. (I don't mean you personally Aviva)
I love dogs and most animals excluding snakes, certain rodents and cold blooded species. Cats I don't like. They make me shudder, instinctively. Unless they're declawed and as affectionate and approachable as dogs. Then I love them.
But if a cat is catty with the standoffishness and does the pouncing out of nowhere routine, I can't stand them. This includes a lot of them.
I was once standing on a porch ringing my friend's doorbell and all of a sudden a cat I didn't even know jumped on my shoulder and just stood there. He was laying in wait on one of the upper beams of the porch. I almost had a heart attack. Maybe the cat thought it was funny but I didn't see the humor in it at all. Except now I do, but still. Damn cats...
Cats have their own personalities. I have two, both the same age, adopted at the same time, from the same litter. The one is as friendly as can be and does not understand the concept of personal space. She will even shower with me if I leave the bathroom door open. The other is a scardy cat. He so much as hears a bump and he runs and hides. People don't even realize I have a second cat lol. He is only friendly with me, and very demanding when no one is around.
I guess you never know what kinda cat you're gonna get. The showering thing though. That's adorable
Haha. It is adorable, and during the sprint and fall I have no problem letting her do it. During the winter it is just too cold (and if I blow dry her, she will never let me stop lol) and in the summer with the a/c it can be too cold.0
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