Going from 191lb to 200lb in two months Lean mass
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YanierAlvarez wrote: »Thank you guys. I will try to keep it as lean as possible. I know is kind of impossible but i will give it my best. I have learned to eat the past 2 years and i think with a good nutrition i can pull this one off. I will keep you guys posted.
I look forward to this.
And thanks for letting me hijack!
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YanierAlvarez wrote: »Thank you guys. I will try to keep it as lean as possible. I know is kind of impossible but i will give it my best. I have learned to eat the past 2 years and i think with a good nutrition i can pull this one off. I will keep you guys posted.
Sorry brother, it's not a nutritional thing, it's a genetic potential thing.
Your diet can be as on point as possible, yet you will still not yield 8lbs of lean mass development in two months.
There are just limitations to the bodies natural ability to develop muscle in [x] time frame, and it is greatly reduced year by year of consistent training.
I'll try to pull the links/exact figures shortly for some reference, but (IIRC) the top names such as Lyle McDonald, and Alan Aragon approximate potential natural ability to develop at roughly 24lbs of MUSCLE in the first year of ones training.
At which point, the potential of MAXIMUM muscular development in each year following is reduced by 1/2...or something close to it.
At 5 years of consistent training, your natural potential to develop lean mass is just no where near what you're hoping to accomplish.0 -
iwillsucceed0444 wrote: »Wow, definitely awesome progress. You look great.
Looks like someone got lost.
What do you mean by that? I'm just stating that he looks really good. 0 -
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beastcompany wrote: »YanierAlvarez wrote: »Thank you guys. I will try to keep it as lean as possible. I know is kind of impossible but i will give it my best. I have learned to eat the past 2 years and i think with a good nutrition i can pull this one off. I will keep you guys posted.
Sorry brother, it's not a nutritional thing, it's a genetic potential thing.
Your diet can be as on point as possible, yet you will still not yield 8lbs of lean mass development in two months.
There are just limitations to the bodies natural ability to develop muscle in [x] time frame, and it is greatly reduced year by year of consistent training.
I'll try to pull the links/exact figures shortly for some reference, but (IIRC) the top names such as Lyle McDonald, and Alan Aragon approximate potential natural ability to develop at roughly 24lbs of MUSCLE in the first year of ones training.
At which point, the potential of MAXIMUM muscular development in each year following is reduced by 1/2...or something close to it.
At 5 years of consistent training, your natural potential to develop lean mass is just no where near what you're hoping to accomplish.
This^^^
The fitness industry has really manipulated people in to believing that if you just take supplement x, eat a certain way, train a certain way that you can exceed the reality of genetic potential for a natural lifter. The drug culture has played a major part in what people believe can be achieved. You can't force feed muscle growth as an experienced lifter, more than likely you just end up fat. You're not done growing or getting stronger/better, but at this stage I wouldn't put a time frame or a number on it. Keep training, eating, and making progress.0 -
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beastcompany wrote: »YanierAlvarez wrote: »Thank you guys. I will try to keep it as lean as possible. I know is kind of impossible but i will give it my best. I have learned to eat the past 2 years and i think with a good nutrition i can pull this one off. I will keep you guys posted.
Sorry brother, it's not a nutritional thing, it's a genetic potential thing.
Your diet can be as on point as possible, yet you will still not yield 8lbs of lean mass development in two months.
There are just limitations to the bodies natural ability to develop muscle in [x] time frame, and it is greatly reduced year by year of consistent training.
I'll try to pull the links/exact figures shortly for some reference, but (IIRC) the top names such as Lyle McDonald, and Alan Aragon approximate potential natural ability to develop at roughly 24lbs of MUSCLE in the first year of ones training.
At which point, the potential of MAXIMUM muscular development in each year following is reduced by 1/2...or something close to it.
At 5 years of consistent training, your natural potential to develop lean mass is just no where near what you're hoping to accomplish.
http://www.muscleforlife.com/how-much-muscle-can-you-build-naturally/
You're the man boss.
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ros2will3run wrote: »Well, you look very handsome in both pics! Me, I prefer the first..less toned..but that's just preference! but hey, great workouts..!
http://replygif.net/101
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someone make that stupid gif work. seriously.0
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Guys i really appreciate your comments. This is just a goal. Lean mass is not easy to grow i have been training for 5 consecutive years trying new stuff, trying new diets. If i do not push myself to the max no one will. Perhaps i can reach 2 pounds lean mass and 5 of fat i will be happy with it. You always have to go up so you can start to cuting. It will be all natural. Right now im losing weight because i have been trying to clean off from atificial protein. I have been taking that crap for a very long time now, is time to take a time off. I will start eating the right way again in 4 days. I train around 3 hours a day 6 days a week.0
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YanierAlvarez wrote: »Guys i really appreciate your comments. This is just a goal. Lean mass is not easy to grow i have been training for 5 consecutive years trying new stuff, trying new diets. If i do not push myself to the max no one will. Perhaps i can reach 2 pounds lean mass and 5 of fat i will be happy with it. You always have to go up so you can start to cuting. It will be all natural. Right now im losing weight because i have been trying to clean off from atificial protein. I have been taking that crap for a very long time now, is time to take a time off. I will start eating the right way again in 4 days. I train around 3 hours a day 6 days a week.
Like I stated earlier, it would be appreciated if you keep this thread updated with weekly pictures and maybe nutrition and training over views. A lot of us that are here are not at the level that you are (a couple guys are) but it can only benefit the group to have an open discussion about this type of stuff. This sub section here is different than the main forum. It's actual science and experience that has been analyzed and broken down over the years.
+1 I'm not even bulking, but I like reading about the experiences, and I've applied a lot of what I learn, even in a cut.0 -
beastcompany wrote: »YanierAlvarez wrote: »Thank you guys. I will try to keep it as lean as possible. I know is kind of impossible but i will give it my best. I have learned to eat the past 2 years and i think with a good nutrition i can pull this one off. I will keep you guys posted.
Sorry brother, it's not a nutritional thing, it's a genetic potential thing.
Your diet can be as on point as possible, yet you will still not yield 8lbs of lean mass development in two months.
There are just limitations to the bodies natural ability to develop muscle in [x] time frame, and it is greatly reduced year by year of consistent training.
I'll try to pull the links/exact figures shortly for some reference, but (IIRC) the top names such as Lyle McDonald, and Alan Aragon approximate potential natural ability to develop at roughly 24lbs of MUSCLE in the first year of ones training.
At which point, the potential of MAXIMUM muscular development in each year following is reduced by 1/2...or something close to it.
At 5 years of consistent training, your natural potential to develop lean mass is just no where near what you're hoping to accomplish.
The truth is sad and I prefer the fiction, but I live in reality and this is the way it is. I'm gaining maybe a 1/2lb a month, and that's lean + fat but it's about the best I can do.
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YanierAlvarez wrote: »Guys i really appreciate your comments. This is just a goal. Lean mass is not easy to grow i have been training for 5 consecutive years trying new stuff, trying new diets. If i do not push myself to the max no one will. Perhaps i can reach 2 pounds lean mass and 5 of fat i will be happy with it. You always have to go up so you can start to cuting. It will be all natural. Right now im losing weight because i have been trying to clean off from atificial protein. I have been taking that crap for a very long time now, is time to take a time off. I will start eating the right way again in 4 days. I train around 3 hours a day 6 days a week.
Like I stated earlier, it would be appreciated if you keep this thread updated with weekly pictures and maybe nutrition and training over views. A lot of us that are here are not at the level that you are (a couple guys are) but it can only benefit the group to have an open discussion about this type of stuff. This sub section here is different than the main forum. It's actual science and experience that has been analyzed and broken down over the years.
+1 I'm not even bulking, but I like reading about the experiences, and I've applied a lot of what I learn, even in a cut.
^me too! that's why I'm hanging around here0 -
YanierAlvarez wrote: »Guys i really appreciate your comments. This is just a goal. Lean mass is not easy to grow i have been training for 5 consecutive years trying new stuff, trying new diets. If i do not push myself to the max no one will. Perhaps i can reach 2 pounds lean mass and 5 of fat i will be happy with it. You always have to go up so you can start to cuting. It will be all natural. Right now im losing weight because i have been trying to clean off from atificial protein. I have been taking that crap for a very long time now, is time to take a time off. I will start eating the right way again in 4 days. I train around 3 hours a day 6 days a week.
Like I stated earlier, it would be appreciated if you keep this thread updated with weekly pictures and maybe nutrition and training over views. A lot of us that are here are not at the level that you are (a couple guys are) but it can only benefit the group to have an open discussion about this type of stuff. This sub section here is different than the main forum. It's actual science and experience that has been analyzed and broken down over the years.
+1 I'm not even bulking, but I like reading about the experiences, and I've applied a lot of what I learn, even in a cut.
+1 (currently cutting a bit but will be bulking again soonish).
OP: First let me say, well done and congrats. You look awesome - and you looked good in your "before" pic too IMHO. But second . . . man, it's a little depressing to think 5 years from before to after You looked good before; I don't necessarily aspire to reach your after awesomeness -- maybe a little less ambitious in my case. And I now think the road ahead of me may be considerably longer than I thought, especially as an *ahem* ever so slightly older dude.
Like others I'd be interested in following your progress because this forum is different (lots less silliness and unfounded BS).
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YanierAlvarez wrote: »Sorry guys. I belibe you miss understood me. Those gains took me 5 years to get them. My new goal is get to 200lb in two months. And thanks everyone.
That weight goal is possible in two months...but will not all be lean mass. Why are you trying to get to that weight in 2 months?
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Lotta broscience happening here with the asparagus talk. But, hey, you are very lean, nice work.0
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DeeJayShank wrote: »Lotta broscience happening here with the asparagus talk. But, hey, you are very lean, nice work.
Could you clarify what you mean with the asparagus? I'm not sure what you are referencing here.0 -
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