What do you think the size of a healthy woman would be?
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Laura Wells has a banging body! I'd kill to look like her
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When you're talking models and what is normal, healthy etc., this does not apply to the general population. Model's must have a certain bone structure and height. An average woman knows when she's healthy---someone with an ED does not. I, for one, do not like models used as examples. The beauty of us girls is our diversity.
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why does the word 'inciting' keep popping in my head right now?-1
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kojiro44705 wrote: »I would judge by the amount of fat around their heart and other organs.
This basically, it really depends where you put your weight, I have a perfectly healthy BMI and wear UK size 10 (US6) jeans and12 (US8) dresses and tops but I put on all my weight around my tummy so my belly measurement (at the thickest part) is technically over the British heart foundations recommended healthy circumference of 31.5". However there's women out there with hourglass figures who are technically in an unhealthy BMI and a size 16 but with barely any fat around their middle. I think the latter is technically deemed healthier.
Dress sizes are manufactured nonsense and BMI's are just a guide, there is no one size fits all, you've just got to figure out where you are on the spectrum.
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kamakazeekim wrote: »Size per se does not matter when talking about health. What does their blood panel show? Are they able to be physically active without too much pain and huffing and puffing? How much fat is around their internal organs (even skinny people can have really fatty organs)? I know that I for one was "healthier" when I was larger. Now that I've lost 130 pounds I feel weak and tired...I throw up all the time....I'm constantly getting sick...and my heart is not able to maintain a high enough blood pressure. I'm tired of seeing people equate weight with health...the numbers on the scale are not a good indicator of what is going on internally.
This is a lot like saying "my great aunt Ethel smoked like a chimney and lived to be 95". Yes, one can have some extra weight and be quite healthy. But that is a matter of genetics, and being slimmer is generally better on all your parts. I can feel the difference just ten lbs makes to my knees and hips- and we sure are replacing a lot of those. Some people have a stockier build, but fat is still fat.0 -
Size varies on so many things. So does weight. It's simply impossible to pick one size or one weight that equals healthy. You have asked an unanswerable question.0
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This is the correct answer.This is an unanswerable question because women are all shaped differently and fit different size dresses. My Thai friend has a very slight build and wears very small sizes. She would be big at size 4. Another friend is more Amazonian in stature and I am guessing a 12 when she is on point fitness-wise.
You can't measure health with a fashion yardstick.
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Healthy:
adjective
in a good physical or mental condition; in good health.
"I feel fit and healthy"
synonyms: in good physical condition, in good health, well, all right, fine, fit, physically fit, in good trim, in good shape, in fine fettle, in good kilter, in top form, aerobicized, in tip-top condition;
indicating or promoting good health.
For some reason the words "healthy" and "curvy have become interchangeable in most aspects of the media in recent years; "curvy" is simply a euphemism for "fat". (see Daily Mail, TMZ et al)
It's all gotten rather skewed. Your "healthy size" is a size which falls naturally to you when you don't over or under eat for your bodies needs. Most people have no idea what this is, usually because excuses, but also because of being told constantly about what body type is currently en vogue.0 -
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You have to look at things besides their size. I'm a US size 12, but I'm definitely not ideal sized since I'm only 5'3" and I weigh 188lbs. I still need to lose 13 more pounds to be classified as merely overweight instead of obese. However, I do consistently run 15-20 miles a week. If you are 5'10 like most models than a size 10/12 is probably right. But you could still be unhealthy.0
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benefiting wrote: »I just read an article about how a woman who is a size 14 (Australian) is classed as a plus size model. I would assume that healthy woman would infact be around size 12-14 (size 10-12 for US) and yet this woman is being called plus size?!
I guess it all depends on body type, but I would be fat in a US size 10 even. I'm usually a size 6, can wear size 4 in some brands when I'm at my ideal weight (which is not skinny either).0 -
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I'm a US sz. 4-6 (depends on cut). Still considered overweight, based on my height.0
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IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym wrote: »healthy is as healthy does. It is not defined by the size stitched into your clothing.
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For me 40-55kg (88-120lb) is a perfect range for a girl < 5'9"
Healthy depends more upon body fat %, diet, and lifestyle than things like dress size. Hard to relate the two, but for sure a sedentary lifestyle with high sugar intake is going to lead to higher bf% and health problems.0 -
kojiro44705 wrote: »I would judge by the amount of fat around their heart and other organs.
Ima go with this too.
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cincysweetheart wrote: »Size varies on so many things. So does weight. It's simply impossible to pick one size or one weight that equals healthy. You have asked an unanswerable question.
I refuse to think it's an unanwerable question because I didn't say whether it was health or not, due to it obviously not being an accurate way of measument but the veiw of the viewers and aspiring to be thin like the models themselves. Do people find the size 0 or so models to be the ideal or do they think someone who is closer to a plus size to be more ideal? That is what I'm getting at.0 -
Under 7'. Over that she'll continuously hit her head on ceiling fans, door frames and such....that would be unhealthy.0
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Who defines what THE ideal body size is? This is a completely different question from your OP about health, BTW.
But, to whoever makes the body size rules out there...
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Love to say how "size labels" don't matter but unfortunately in today's World, this is normally the catalyst for people trying to lose weight and get fit. I teach teenagers and can categorically say that "health reasons" are the last things on their minds, they are see skinny models and think that's the "perfect" weight to be healthy.
Im a size 8 uk (4 us) at 5ft4 but wouldn't consider myself skinny, I exercise regularly and would be very healthy in general but like most other people I would still like to be skinnier. The ideal healthy size I think depends on the person themselves.0 -
Who defines what THE ideal body size is? This is a completely different question from your OP about health, BTW.
But, to whoever makes the body size rules out there...
Nope. My orginal question was the first paragraph I wrote but I believe I wrote the second part so people are aware I know it isn't how you measure health. The orginal question was what size do you find healthy not what is it actually healthy which I later said was more towards what we precieve as a healthy size not what is a healthy size. I may of worded it wrong but I know what I mean and some have realised that too. 0 -
benefiting wrote: »cincysweetheart wrote: »Size varies on so many things. So does weight. It's simply impossible to pick one size or one weight that equals healthy. You have asked an unanswerable question.
I refuse to think it's an unanwerable question because I didn't say whether it was health or not, due to it obviously not being an accurate way of measument but the veiw of the viewers and aspiring to be thin like the models themselves. Do people find the size 0 or so models to be the ideal or do they think someone who is closer to a plus size to be more ideal? That is what I'm getting at.
I googled Laura Wells and she honestly looks overweight to me. She may or may not be healthy...I am not her doctor so can't say...but I think she is definitely plus sized and not at all what I consider ideal in terms of body. I'm not saying she is unattractive...she is pretty. But she would look much better if she lost a few pounds, but that is just my opinion. But then you are asking for my opinion, so I am giving it.0 -
I would probably go with body fat percentage and overall physical health. I know there are size 2's who can barely make it up a flight of stairs and size 14's that run miles at a time. I have been unhealthy and healthy at different times in my life while wearing the same size pants.0
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benefiting wrote: »Who defines what THE ideal body size is? This is a completely different question from your OP about health, BTW.
But, to whoever makes the body size rules out there...
Nope. My orginal question was the first paragraph I wrote but I believe I wrote the second part so people are aware I know it isn't how you measure health. The orginal question was what size do you find healthy not what is it actually healthy which I later said was more towards what we precieve as a healthy size not what is a healthy size. I may of worded it wrong but I know what I mean and some have realised that too.
But then you ask if a model size 0 is ideal or if a plus size is ideal. Ideal by what standards?
This question has no answer. If it's health standards, it depends on a physical. We can't determine what is healthy or not by size, unless morbid obesity is apparent. How can one say that a 10 is less healthy than a 2 without knowing medical status. So, that doesn't work.
If it's a physical beauty ideal that you are getting at, it depends on personal preference. There is no one right way to be. Some people like very skinny women. Others like big women. No one is right or wrong.
Instead of trying to answer the impossible, it's better to just not care. Focus instead on being the best version of yourself you can be, regardless of what a made-up, airbrushed, professionally clothed model looks like on paper.
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MoiAussi93 wrote: »benefiting wrote: »cincysweetheart wrote: »Size varies on so many things. So does weight. It's simply impossible to pick one size or one weight that equals healthy. You have asked an unanswerable question.
I refuse to think it's an unanwerable question because I didn't say whether it was health or not, due to it obviously not being an accurate way of measument but the veiw of the viewers and aspiring to be thin like the models themselves. Do people find the size 0 or so models to be the ideal or do they think someone who is closer to a plus size to be more ideal? That is what I'm getting at.
I googled Laura Wells and she honestly looks overweight to me. She may or may not be healthy...I am not her doctor so can't say...but I think she is definitely plus sized and not at all what I consider ideal in terms of body. I'm not saying she is unattractive...she is pretty. But she would look much better if she lost a few pounds, but that is just my opinion. But then you are asking for my opinion, so I am giving it.
Thank you, this is the type of stuff I am looking for. I want to know whether people think models around this size seem to be plus size or not. I thought that some people may have a particlar size they think is ideal but apparently many people don't take that too seriously as I thought. 0 -
WishesOnTheStar wrote: »For me 40-55kg (88-120lb) is a perfect range for a girl < 5'9"
Healthy depends more upon body fat %, diet, and lifestyle than things like dress size. Hard to relate the two, but for sure a sedentary lifestyle with high sugar intake is going to lead to higher bf% and health problems.
Did you really just say it is ok for a grown woman to weigh 88lbs? A ten year old weighs that. Only if she is a dwarf would that be ok.
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MoiAussi93 wrote: »I don't view certain clothing sizes as healthy or unhealthy because it depends on height and body type. A 5'10" woman could be a size 10 or 12 and be healthy...or she could be overweight. It depends on how much is muscle vs fat and where she carries the weight.
But a 5'3" woman who is a size ten or 12 is almost certainly overweight.
Just because a size is average doesn't mean it is healthy. 2/3 of Americans are overweight or obese, so average is not a good thing here.
This^
If I have to give an opinion about what I think is a healthy size, then 0-8. I know there are plenty of factors excluded, but the OP asked it directly. We are a nation full of overweight and obese people, change the title of plus size to 18-24 and it would still be offensive to most of the US
I also know that body fat% is a much greater indicator of health (fat around organs) than dress size. Don't care if you have better BP than your friends that weigh less, high % of bf and/or high BMI (even though it is a flawed scale at best) is an indicator for a huge amount of morbidities0 -
benefiting wrote: »Who defines what THE ideal body size is? This is a completely different question from your OP about health, BTW.
But, to whoever makes the body size rules out there...
Nope. My orginal question was the first paragraph I wrote but I believe I wrote the second part so people are aware I know it isn't how you measure health. The orginal question was what size do you find healthy not what is it actually healthy which I later said was more towards what we precieve as a healthy size not what is a healthy size. I may of worded it wrong but I know what I mean and some have realised that too.
But then you ask if a model size 0 is ideal or if a plus size is ideal. Ideal by what standards?
This question has no answer. If it's health standards, it depends on a physical. We can't determine what is healthy or not by size, unless morbid obesity is apparent. How can one say that a 10 is less healthy than a 2 without knowing medical status. So, that doesn't work.
If it's a physical beauty ideal that you are getting at, it depends on personal preference. There is no one right way to be. Some people like very skinny women. Others like big women. No one is right or wrong.
Instead of trying to answer the impossible, it's better to just not care. Focus instead on being the best version of yourself you can be, regardless of what a made-up, airbrushed, professionally clothed model looks like on paper.
I said if you think 0 is ideal or if something closer to plus size is ideal I believe (and if I didn't I need to learn to prove read and such) and by ideal I mean ideal to you. That's why the question says: What do you think the size of a healthy woman would be because it's your opinion about the subject, not anyone elses. I am getting at physical apperence and not internal which I think I have stated before.
I don't tend to care about the modelling world as I know that it isn't realstic and such but just because we know better doesn't mean that there is people out there not being affected by the sitution. I think they should just call them models, not plus size and such. It's body shaming in a way.0 -
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enterdanger wrote: »WishesOnTheStar wrote: »For me 40-55kg (88-120lb) is a perfect range for a girl < 5'9"
Healthy depends more upon body fat %, diet, and lifestyle than things like dress size. Hard to relate the two, but for sure a sedentary lifestyle with high sugar intake is going to lead to higher bf% and health problems.
Did you really just say it is ok for a grown woman to weigh 88lbs? A ten year old weighs that. Only if she is a dwarf would that be ok.
Word.
I think anything under 125 for anyone over 4 feet 8 is underweight and the fact is the taller you are the more weigh the more weight you should have on you and based on BMI alone someone who is 125LB at 5"10 is underweight. I know it all comes down to body type and such but that my rule of thumb.0
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