Why is it so hard for people to grasp there is no magical solution?

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  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
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    ana3067 wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    Wait... there's no pixie dust? None? WTF, man! Delete account:-)

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    That one is just..... Wrong lol.
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,150 Member
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    elphie754 wrote: »
    ana3067 wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    Wait... there's no pixie dust? None? WTF, man! Delete account:-)

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    That one is just..... Wrong lol.

    Right! Ana you perv!
  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
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    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    elphie754 wrote: »
    ana3067 wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    Wait... there's no pixie dust? None? WTF, man! Delete account:-)

    t7uqh7dxk9yu.png

    tumblr_mg4dmj0Bzv1rgb5tho1_500.gif

    That one is just..... Wrong lol.

    Right! Ana you perv!

    Is it weird my first thought is: how are the wings attached to her? And not: where are her clothes?
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
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    Makes me even more thankful for my doctor. She is a nice person, listens to me, lets me participate in the decision making, calls me her "poster child" for doing everything right, and says I inspired her to lose 50 lb. All of this and I first saw her at a free clinic I went to because I had no money or insurance. When I got an income and insurance, I followed her to her regular practice because she was so great and treated me with respect even though I was one of the indigent patients at the clinic. A keeper.
  • katherine_startrek_fan
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    elphie754 wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    elphie754 wrote: »
    ana3067 wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    Wait... there's no pixie dust? None? WTF, man! Delete account:-)

    t7uqh7dxk9yu.png

    tumblr_mg4dmj0Bzv1rgb5tho1_500.gif

    That one is just..... Wrong lol.

    Right! Ana you perv!

    Is it weird my first thought is: how are the wings attached to her? And not: where are her clothes?

    She's the Green Fairy!
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,867 Member
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    since when have people put any stock into actual science...i mean people once upon a time were killed for presenting scientific facts that flew in the face of belief systems...is it that surprising that people continue to put some kind of belief system ahead of science and math.

    There have always been charlatans and snake oil salesman...because people want to believe in something other than the obvious...there has to be some kind of mysteriousness or something to everything. If this wasn't the case there wouldn't be a gazillion religions all claiming to be right.

    also, it just can't be that easy...you must have to go through some kind of torture to lose weight.
  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
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    earlnabby wrote: »
    Makes me even more thankful for my doctor. She is a nice person, listens to me, lets me participate in the decision making, calls me her "poster child" for doing everything right, and says I inspired her to lose 50 lb. All of this and I first saw her at a free clinic I went to because I had no money or insurance. When I got an income and insurance, I followed her to her regular practice because she was so great and treated me with respect even though I was one of the indigent patients at the clinic. A keeper.

    I feel the same way about my PCP. She is absolutely amazing and also has me participate in decision making. Most of the specialists I see (allergist, ENT and therapist) are also amazing and I wouldnt trade them for anything. This MD? Ehhh. I've gotten more helpful advice from bricks (obvious exaggeration).
  • Amanda4change
    Amanda4change Posts: 620 Member
    edited February 2015
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    In my opinion people want to believe that losing weight is hard and complicated or require expensive "fixes" so they have an excuse as to why they can't do it. Either because they just don't want to or they lack the motivation to actually reduce their intake. If they believe that it's simple CICO (eat less and move more) they have to face the fact that the reason they (or others) are overweight is because they choose to be.
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
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    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    elphie754 wrote: »
    ana3067 wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    Wait... there's no pixie dust? None? WTF, man! Delete account:-)

    t7uqh7dxk9yu.png

    tumblr_mg4dmj0Bzv1rgb5tho1_500.gif

    That one is just..... Wrong lol.

    Right! Ana you perv!

    HEY it's a classic movie OKAY, I had to find a gif of her. This was the best one!
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
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    earlnabby wrote: »
    Makes me even more thankful for my doctor. She is a nice person, listens to me, lets me participate in the decision making, calls me her "poster child" for doing everything right, and says I inspired her to lose 50 lb. All of this and I first saw her at a free clinic I went to because I had no money or insurance. When I got an income and insurance, I followed her to her regular practice because she was so great and treated me with respect even though I was one of the indigent patients at the clinic. A keeper.

    Good doctors can be hard to find. I LOVE my GP, she's so sweet. She apparently has like rave reviews on Yelp too lol
  • rissavanwey
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    lemon629 wrote: »
    And maybe there's something about physicians not trusting people.

    ^^This.

    IMHO, a lot of medical professionals get jaded because patients only say what they think they should say, and not the truth, but then get upset when some underlying condition isn't discovered early because of non-disclosure. So medical people question everything several different ways to make sure you're REALLY telling the WHOLE story.

    And then there are people who have no common decency and think your business is their business and they're not going to leave you alone until they're 100% convinced, which they will never be. Those people are affectionately referred to as *kitten*-hats. :)

    Great job on your loss, BTW. Now share your pixie dust.
  • PrizePopple
    PrizePopple Posts: 3,133 Member
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    My endo and GP are awesome because they're just like "keep doin' what you're doing, because it's working and that's awesome!" I'm not losing at some startling pace for my height and weight, and as long as my labs come back better than before then I'll just get a "good job, you're rocking the staying off meds!" and be on my way for another 6 months.
  • ntnunk
    ntnunk Posts: 936 Member
    edited February 2015
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    In my opinion people want to believe that losing weight is hard and complicated or require expensive "fixes" so they have an excuse as to why they can't do it. Either because they just don't want to or they lack the motivation to actually reduce their intake. If they believe that it's simple CICO (eat less and move more) they have to face the fact that the reason they (or others) are overweight is because they choose to be.

    This is a really interesting viewpoint, and one I'd never really considered. You may be on to something. At least in some, possibly many, cases.
  • pjcfrancis
    pjcfrancis Posts: 121 Member
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    Eat less, move more and say "abracadabra" before weighing myself.
  • kyta32
    kyta32 Posts: 670 Member
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    I think it is because so many have had "magic pixie dust" weight loss experiences.

    I lost 20 lbs in one week after the birth of each daughter (6lbs 12oz, 8lbs 3oz) without trying.

    I lost 2 lbs weight without trying during a 1 week vacation, after working like crazy to lose weight before the vacation.

    I lost weight without trying when I started Karate.

    I lost weight without trying when I started jogging.

    I lost weight without having to know anything about calories when I restricted fat intake to under 30 g/day.

    I lost weight (and the ability to stay conscious for more than 20 minutes at a time) without having to log calories following the Wild Rose diet.

    I lose weight disproportionate to calorie intake every TOM.

    Some people never have to log calories, and stay at a healthy weight.

    I know now that long-term sustainable weight loss for me will require a lot of logging, maybe for the rest of my life, but with all the magic feathers of weight loss out there, I can see why people would look for other habits that enhance the journey...
  • lemon629
    lemon629 Posts: 501 Member
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    In my opinion people want to believe that losing weight is hard and complicated or require expensive "fixes" so they have an excuse as to why they can't do it. Either because they just don't want to or they lack the motivation to actually reduce their intake. If they believe that it's simple CICO (eat less and move more) they have to face the fact that the reason they (or others) are overweight is because they choose to be.

    I think there is a lot of truth in this.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
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    elphie754 wrote: »
    Warning: partial rant about MD stupidity as well as a question about the stupidity.

    I saw one of my physicians today that I only see every 6 months. She made a huge deal out of the fact that I have lost 60 lbs since she last saw me, even though what I see her for has absolutely nothing to do with weight. So of course she asked what I have been doing. I responded back "eating less, moving more". She responds back, "no really, what are you doing?". Annoyed, I once again say "counting calories, staying in my goal range, using my fitbit and moving more." Apparently that was no an acceptable answer because she continues on asking if I cut carbs, eating low fat, taking diet pills and all the other ridiculous nonsense out there. I finally got so fed up with the moronic suggestions I just said "no. I am eating less, moving more. I can see why you didn't go into nutrition as your speciality. Now can we please finish the appt without mentioning magical pixie dust for weight loss?" Maybe not the nicest way to say it, but it certainly finished the conversation lol. Now I remember why I only see her twice a year lol.

    Why is it so hard for people to believe that CICO works? Especially those in medicine?

    Oh my goodness, I LOVE it! Sounds like she really didn't understand.

    As for there being no magical solution, I beg to differ, so......

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    Eating less and moving more is the magical solution. :D
  • Merkavar
    Merkavar Posts: 3,082 Member
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    When people at work started asking me about my weight loss some sounded like they were expecting some weird diet advice/secret.

    Like they were disappointed when I said I am eating less, doing more, going to the gym and kick boxing.

    Like they wanted me to say I lost 4 kg a week by eating zucchini dipped in glitter with every meal and how that counteracts anything else you eat.

  • Mech9
    Mech9 Posts: 252 Member
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    Merkavar wrote: »
    I lost 4 kg a week by eating zucchini dipped in glitter with every meal and how that counteracts anything else you eat.

    Wait... HOLD THE PHONE! You're telling me... I can eat WHATEVER I want, as long as I eat zucchini dipped in glitter, and I will still lose weight?! I had no idea. My mind = blown.

    :P

  • deaniac83
    deaniac83 Posts: 166 Member
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    If they are an MD and you are not, let's just say it stands to reason they know more about the human body than you do. And you HAVE lost weight pretty fast. 10 lbs a month average is nothing to sneeze at and if a doctor who you have history with is concerned, I would at least get a second opinion. You may not see her for anything related to your weight (incidentally, what DO you see her for?), but that doesn't mean she didn't go through med school. Did you at least speak with your primary physician to see if you are in fact losing weight too fast for your body and history?