THE BIG STARVATION MODE MYTH.

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  • Mcgrawhaha
    Mcgrawhaha Posts: 1,596 Member
    keep your protein intake at ~0.85g - 1.5g per lb of body fat

    Really ?
    that's what my trainer/nutritionist told me, and i have only seen a+ results since.

    nope
    literally just said it was a typo bye

    by all means, have as many typos as you want, but remember, you are the one posting how people are dumb *kitten*...
  • themeaningofthemorning
    themeaningofthemorning Posts: 320 Member
    yes, because making a typing error while exhausted at midnight after a 6 day week and a workout = dumbass.

    there is a pretty stark difference between a tired mistake and an ignorant, illogical, unintelligent stance on a subject.
  • Mcgrawhaha
    Mcgrawhaha Posts: 1,596 Member
    yes, because making a typing error while exhausted at midnight after a 6 day week and a workout = dumbass.

    there is a pretty stark difference between a tired mistake and an ignorant, illogical, unintelligent stance on a subject.

    lol, ok, if you say so... your the fitness guru, if people dont do it your way, they are dumb *kitten*... <<<got it>>>***noted***
  • KarenJanine
    KarenJanine Posts: 3,497 Member
    Best information I've read on the subject:

    http://body-improvements.com/resources/eat/#starvationmode

    Def worth a read
  • themeaningofthemorning
    themeaningofthemorning Posts: 320 Member
    you can say whatever you want and be as otherwise as you like, but that's not going to change the facts i posted.

    there are some who say you don't necessarily need as much protein as i suggested, but aside from that SUGGESTION, everything else was fact. high school biology. not enough intake = likely not enough nutrients (esp protein) = not adequate for your body to function optimally. fat loss doesn't always equate to linear weight loss. that's just the way it is.
  • jaxxie
    jaxxie Posts: 576 Member
    People say don't eat 1200 or even 1500 calories a day. They say eat more, to weigh less, but people you see on youtube eat 1200 and are losing over 80+ pounds. Can you explain that maybe it is better to eat more in the 1800s, but don't tell people that starvation will come up and get them because it's a flat out lie. Especially if your obese. Some guys did a study and that's the huge thing, that's why people think they're in starvation mode. How can you tell someone to eat more when that's what they have been doing all along, hence why they're overweight to begin with. Look at people in different countries starving, they are not going into starvation mode. No I don't think so. You need to look around you. People want you to fail in weight loss, they will make up anything to make sure you don't succeed. Why IDK. But its true weight loss and takes a long freaking time. You need to think of it in long terms, I mean like 3-5 years, it will need to be a lifestyle change. People think they are going into starvation mode because omg i hit a plateau. It happens with everyone. You're never going to get away from that. Sorry guys. JUST BECAUSE YOU HIT A PLATEAU DOES NOT MEAN YOUR IN STARVATION MODE. 1200 isn't starving yourself. What happens when you don't get enough food your body? It has to go into your fat stores, it's science people. End of story. Comments please thanks:) Oh fyi iv lost 40 pounds.

    HUH? Secondly HUH?
  • Mcgrawhaha
    Mcgrawhaha Posts: 1,596 Member
    you can say whatever you want and be as otherwise as you like, but that's not going to change the facts i posted.

    there are some who say you don't necessarily need as much protein as i suggested, but aside from that SUGGESTION, everything else was fact. high school biology. not enough intake = likely not enough nutrients (esp protein) = not adequate for your body to function optimally.

    i could care less about arguing with your facts. your facts mean nothing to me. im more amused that you cant debate without resorting to 1st grade name calling tacticts, calling those who dont follow your method, dumb *kitten*, however, you quote some rediculous protein intake of 1.5g per POUND OF BODY FAT. and fyi, people can get in proper nutrients on lower cal intakes. i manage to get ATLEAST 82g of protein in daily, on 1200 cals. but god forbid me disagree with the fitness guru, right?
  • Mcgrawhaha
    Mcgrawhaha Posts: 1,596 Member
    what can i say... this has been fun, but im going to bed... nite all!
  • Dargealing
    Dargealing Posts: 58 Member
    thank you for htis eye opener. I wondered when the muscle loss would take affect and one of you answered my question for me.. I am only 4ft 11 1/2 inches tall. i was worried I had shrunk as I have mild osteo, but I had my husband measure me and I am still the same heigth. I try to stay at 1200 cal. a day. sometimes I do more some days less, but I eat healthy,or try to most of the time. Ihave lost 22 lbs and it was eating right, drinking water, water, and selective supplements, and dealing with changing hormones. I am very proud of my hard work and weight loss. 22 does not seem like a lot of weight loss,. but my eating before and sitting around besides doing all my cleaning accounts, was not getting the weight off, so hard workouts and smart eating and keeping to the 1200 calories is what helped me to lose the weight. So the FAT MYTH.. starvation mode.. I don't believe it to be an issue unless as was said, you burn thru the fat reserves first.. thenit would start breaking down muscle
  • themeaningofthemorning
    themeaningofthemorning Posts: 320 Member
    you can say whatever you want and be as otherwise as you like, but that's not going to change the facts i posted.

    there are some who say you don't necessarily need as much protein as i suggested, but aside from that SUGGESTION, everything else was fact. high school biology. not enough intake = likely not enough nutrients (esp protein) = not adequate for your body to function optimally.

    i could care less about arguing with your facts. your facts mean nothing to me. im more amused that you cant debate without resorting to 1st grade name calling tacticts, calling those who dont follow your method, dumb *kitten*, however, you quote some rediculous protein intake of 1.5g per POUND OF BODY FAT. and fyi, people can get in proper nutrients on lower cal intakes. i manage to get ATLEAST 82g of protein in daily, on 1200 cals. but god forbid me disagree with the fitness guru, right?
    pretty ridiculous and cute that you're still arguing something that was waived as a typo long ago. anything else?

    please re-read my post and see where i said "likely not enough nutrients". most people are not careful enough to get 85g protein in at 1200 calories without sacrificing something else. OP herself said she eats lettuce and that is her diet.

    please forward any complaints about my jargon/lexicon/tone elsewhere because i honestly don't care.
  • Dargealing
    Dargealing Posts: 58 Member
    and the protein and eating 6 meals a day are a good thing as well. the source of protein is also as important. but I say if what you are doing is working for you then keep it up and if it stops working then do something that will instead of wasting
    your time trying to convince yourself that what you are doing will eventually work somehow..
    my motto is if it ain't broke, don't fix it, and if it is.. then fix it.
  • Mcgrawhaha
    Mcgrawhaha Posts: 1,596 Member
    you can say whatever you want and be as otherwise as you like, but that's not going to change the facts i posted.

    there are some who say you don't necessarily need as much protein as i suggested, but aside from that SUGGESTION, everything else was fact. high school biology. not enough intake = likely not enough nutrients (esp protein) = not adequate for your body to function optimally.

    i could care less about arguing with your facts. your facts mean nothing to me. im more amused that you cant debate without resorting to 1st grade name calling tacticts, calling those who dont follow your method, dumb *kitten*, however, you quote some rediculous protein intake of 1.5g per POUND OF BODY FAT. and fyi, people can get in proper nutrients on lower cal intakes. i manage to get ATLEAST 82g of protein in daily, on 1200 cals. but god forbid me disagree with the fitness guru, right?
    pretty ridiculous and cute that you're still arguing something that was waived as a typo long ago. anything else?

    please re-read my post and see where i said "likely not enough nutrients". most people are not careful enough to get 85g protein in at 1200 calories without sacrificing something else. OP herself said she eats lettuce and that is her diet.

    please forward any complaints about my jargon/lexicon/tone elsewhere because i honestly don't care.

    i think its cute that you have such a superiority complex that you resort to name calling towards those who do not follow your methods. and if you dont care about my "complaints" why are you responding to me? so... im argueing, but your not? how does that work?
  • talraviv69
    talraviv69 Posts: 13 Member
    Well said.
    Well the goal here is to teach people to eat and lose weight in a healthy way. If you just want to eat nothing and lose lean muscle mass, we won't stop you, though.
  • themeaningofthemorning
    themeaningofthemorning Posts: 320 Member
    is there a snooze button
  • Mcgrawhaha
    Mcgrawhaha Posts: 1,596 Member
    is there a snooze button

    well, you are on a public forum, so, i guess if you need a "snooze" you could stop interacting. atleast, thats what most people do... 1. dont want to interact on forum 2. sign off 3. close computer 4. go sleepy... im about to stop interacting pretty soon, thats what i do when im done wanting to type anymore. i dont need an actual "snooze" button for that
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    keep your protein intake at ~0.85g - 1.5g per lb of lean body mass

    so 100-150 g of protein or 400 - 600 cals.

    Add say 30g of essential fats = 270 cals.

    So 870 is a realistic minimum ??
  • themeaningofthemorning
    themeaningofthemorning Posts: 320 Member
    keep your protein intake at ~0.85g - 1.5g per lb of lean body mass

    so 100-150 g of protein or 400 - 600 cals.

    Add say 30g of essential fats = 270 cals.

    So 870 is a realistic minimum ??
    if you're eating real food, those proteins and essential fats are coming with a hell of a lot more than just their own caloric value.
  • themeaningofthemorning
    themeaningofthemorning Posts: 320 Member
    +you need carbs
  • marhattap
    marhattap Posts: 149 Member
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    +you need carbs

    not really.
  • __Di__
    __Di__ Posts: 1,658 Member
    +you need carbs

    How many?
  • jdhoward_101
    jdhoward_101 Posts: 234 Member
    To be honest, I'm happy to watch you all starving and unhappy at 1200 calories, laughing as I ate 1600 cals per day and lost weight. In fact, I currently eat 2000 calories per day and I'm still managing to lose weight that I hadn't even planned to lose.
    So enjoy your 1200 calories per day, I'm sure you are super full of life and happy right?

    Would just like to say that i eat 1200 a day, most of the time less, and sometimes below 1000. I'm not hungry, i still have the energy to do what i want, to go out with friends and do my job, i still exercise and go to the gym several times a week, and i am definitely full of life and very happy.

    Everyone is different, each to their own, what works for you, etc. Please don't judge so needlessly critically or so arrogantly.
  • KANGOOJUMPS
    KANGOOJUMPS Posts: 6,474 Member
    yeah!
  • mcibty
    mcibty Posts: 1,252 Member
    Does anyone else struggle to take those posts with poor spelling seriously?
  • mcibty
    mcibty Posts: 1,252 Member
    To be honest, I'm happy to watch you all starving and unhappy at 1200 calories, laughing as I ate 1600 cals per day and lost weight. In fact, I currently eat 2000 calories per day and I'm still managing to lose weight that I hadn't even planned to lose.
    So enjoy your 1200 calories per day, I'm sure you are super full of life and happy right?

    Would just like to say that i eat 1200 a day, most of the time less, and sometimes below 1000. I'm not hungry, i still have the energy to do what i want, to go out with friends and do my job, i still exercise and go to the gym several times a week, and i am definitely full of life and very happy.

    Everyone is different, each to their own, what works for you, etc. Please don't judge so needlessly critically or so arrogantly.

    The above. I also eat around 1,200 to 1,300 calories a day. I'm never hungry, and I eat whatever I fancy within reason and it suits my daily goal. I work in exercise and I eat back whatever of those calories I feel like, making sure I don't net too little for the day. That's how I do it, and I'm entitled to do it that way. I've lost weight doing it that way, and most importantly, I am happy to do it that way. Same goes for every other person on this site, going about it in their own way.

    The fact that you're showing off that you eat 400kcal a day more than someone else, to me, suggests you need to vent your passive aggressiveness on another site.
  • KymmyJoy
    KymmyJoy Posts: 206 Member
    Does anyone else struggle to take those posts with poor spelling seriously?

    Agreed!
  • HotMummyMission
    HotMummyMission Posts: 1,723 Member
    Most often I see this come up, not when people are eating 1500 calories or whatever...I usually see it come up when people are netting like 500 calories per day. I personally don't believe in "starvation mode", but I do believe that you are starving your body of nutrients if you are netting 500 calories per day or whatever. Do what you want...it's not healthy though. Enjoy your ED.



    Abit harsh but he is right there a girl on here an she shared her story and made me realise eating under 1200 cals are really bad her periods stopped and she had to gain 10lb really quick or she would never be able to have babies look into it properly before making harsh decisions i eat 1200 cals in the week sometimes less but thats on days im fasting but on a weekedni can eat up to 1800 cals in clean food and a treat of course
  • noogie98
    noogie98 Posts: 451 Member
    saving to read comments later!
  • HotMummyMission
    HotMummyMission Posts: 1,723 Member
    Does anyone else struggle to take those posts with poor spelling seriously?

    Thats not fair to attack her is it
  • mcibty
    mcibty Posts: 1,252 Member
    Does anyone else struggle to take those posts with poor spelling seriously?

    Thats not fair to attack her is it

    I didn't attack a particular post? No one was quoted.