Consuming too few calories and gaining weight, what now?
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iamaprincessx wrote: »I feel i'm the only sane one here actually. I would rather double my calorie intake with healthy balanced nutritious foods than under-eat on takeaways daily.
But if its what you think is best then whatever im done haha
Well.. I'd much rather eat a balanced diet of all the foods I love and not demonize any food at all. Which means I'll eat my chocolate and enjoy it.0 -
iamaprincessx wrote: »I feel i'm the only sane one here actually. I would rather double my calorie intake with healthy balanced nutritious foods than under-eat on takeaways daily.
But if its what you think is best then whatever im done haha
You do realize that eating double your calories of "healthy balanced nutritious foods" will still cause you to gain weight, right? I've totally fit a burger and fries into my day, my macros weren't looking so hot, but calories were still spot on.0 -
I know. It is not in 'moderation' though.
Have you looked at her logs or are we all seeing different things.
The point i'm trying to make is that other members of a 'health and fitness' website shouldn't encourage her to continue these habits.
They think its not uncommon... and that is why they are overweight.
I'm gone.0 -
Candicutie wrote: »Ok let me just clear the air a little. I haven't been eating take away meals daily but i have been on the road a few times and needed to pick up a meal quickly. I do belive in CICO. On the days i did have fast food i ate less so as not to go over my calories. A meal like that simply meant for me that i had fewer calories left to consume, nothing more.
There is nothing wrong with eating those in the first place, so don't let that use get to you about that. Do you plan on NEVER eating these things once you reach your goals? I doubt it, that's not sustainable. Eat now the way you plan to eat for life, the only difference is in how much you are eating right now.
But as for your issue, it is likely a natural fluctuation, but you will still greatly benefit from cleaning up your logging. As I said, you don't have to weigh your food but you do need to start making your own recipes (there is a recipe builder), measure everything you are using and make sure that the entries you choose only reflect measured quantities, and eat consistently to your goal (don't be logging 800 calories) If you want to leave 100 calories as a buffer on days you eat out, that's fine. I don't really bother. Eat back at least half of your exercise calories.0 -
PrizePopple wrote: »iamaprincessx wrote: »I feel i'm the only sane one here actually. I would rather double my calorie intake with healthy balanced nutritious foods than under-eat on takeaways daily.
But if its what you think is best then whatever im done haha
You do realize that eating double your calories of "healthy balanced nutritious foods" will still cause you to gain weight, right? I've totally fit a burger and fries into my day, my macros weren't looking so hot, but calories were still spot on.
In fact yes. Call me crazy but I would rather feed my body the nutrients it needs to stay alive than starve myself on food with absolutely zero nutritional value whilst losing weight and become ill.
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One can be healthy and fit eating "bad" food every day. If that is all one eats then yeah, there's gonna be some nutritional issues. But you wanna eat a burger every day on top of your varied diet? That's fine. Gets you some protein, fat, and carbs along with some micros from the cheese and veggies on that burger.iamaprincessx wrote: »I know. It is not in 'moderation' though.
Have you looked at her logs or are we all seeing different things.
The point i'm trying to make is that other members of a 'health and fitness' website shouldn't encourage her to continue these habits.
They think its not uncommon... and that is why they are overweight.
I'm gone.iamaprincessx wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »iamaprincessx wrote: »I feel i'm the only sane one here actually. I would rather double my calorie intake with healthy balanced nutritious foods than under-eat on takeaways daily.
But if its what you think is best then whatever im done haha
You do realize that eating double your calories of "healthy balanced nutritious foods" will still cause you to gain weight, right? I've totally fit a burger and fries into my day, my macros weren't looking so hot, but calories were still spot on.
In fact yes. Call me crazy but I would rather feed my body the nutrients it needs to stay alive than starve myself on food with absolutely zero nutritional value whilst losing weight and become ill.
Weird.. I've been eating "junk" food for 8 months now, sometimes every day, and I've yet to die or become ill or starve myself. I actually eat quite a lot of food, and my portions of lower nutrient foods are pretty reasonable when taking into account my total caloric needs.
Burgers, fries, chocolate, subway, these things all still provide nutrients that my body requires to survive while also providing it the calories it needs to survive.
As someone already saids above, your thinking is terribly black and white and is of no help to the OP or to yourself, unless you plan on pretty much never enjoying yourself on a night out with friends and resign yourself to being that person who brings their own "healthy" food or opts for the dry salad everywhere
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iamaprincessx wrote: »I know. It is not in 'moderation' though.
Have you looked at her logs or are we all seeing different things.
The point i'm trying to make is that other members of a 'health and fitness' website shouldn't encourage her to continue these habits.
They think its not uncommon... and that is why they are overweight.
I'm gone.
I've been battling my weight since you were still in the womb. Just because you think you have it all figured out doesn't mean that you are exclusively correct. I'm down 30 pounds and haven't given up a single thing I love. Not one, and yet here you are arm flapping about how these "habits" are not in line with this website??? Seriously?! I'm losing weight, I'm going to take a guess and say that I'm using this site as intended.0 -
iamaprincessx wrote: »I know. It is not in 'moderation' though.
Have you looked at her logs or are we all seeing different things.
The point i'm trying to make is that other members of a 'health and fitness' website shouldn't encourage her to continue these habits.
They think its not uncommon... and that is why they are overweight.
I'm gone.
Oh, and people are overweight because of CICO, not because they eat out. There are users here who have talked about how they gained weight eating in the very same way you are advocating, and some were also on medications.0 -
Haha but sorry... that is why your overweight.-7
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Thanks for all your help girls, i do appreciate you all taking the time to speak to me. I'm gonna clean up my loggings and try to make my target more often. My scale is as good as bought. I'm not really dieting i've no intention of changing the way i eat now. I've really just made a lifestyle change and i've yet to perfect it. I guess you could say i'm a work in progress.0
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emily_stew wrote: »iamaprincessx wrote: »okay yes you should take zedeff and ana's tips to eat fast food junk because its good for a healthy diet. brilliant idea you should write a book. i understand 'calorie deficit'... and i understand that even if your under your calories for the day and maybe even lose some weight that THE FOOD IS STILL BAD FOR YOU and BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH.
do you not understand nutrition?
Do you?
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iamaprincessx wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »iamaprincessx wrote: »I feel i'm the only sane one here actually. I would rather double my calorie intake with healthy balanced nutritious foods than under-eat on takeaways daily.
But if its what you think is best then whatever im done haha
You do realize that eating double your calories of "healthy balanced nutritious foods" will still cause you to gain weight, right? I've totally fit a burger and fries into my day, my macros weren't looking so hot, but calories were still spot on.
In fact yes. Call me crazy but I would rather feed my body the nutrients it needs to stay alive than starve myself on food with absolutely zero nutritional value whilst losing weight and become ill.
I guess a takeout burger must have 0 carbs, fats or proteins if it has no nutritional value then.0 -
iamaprincessx wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »iamaprincessx wrote: »I feel i'm the only sane one here actually. I would rather double my calorie intake with healthy balanced nutritious foods than under-eat on takeaways daily.
But if its what you think is best then whatever im done haha
You do realize that eating double your calories of "healthy balanced nutritious foods" will still cause you to gain weight, right? I've totally fit a burger and fries into my day, my macros weren't looking so hot, but calories were still spot on.
In fact yes. Call me crazy but I would rather feed my body the nutrients it needs to stay alive than starve myself on food with absolutely zero nutritional value whilst losing weight and become ill.
Pretty much all food will have nutrients your body needs, just because you want to demonize select foods doesn't mean they stop having the nutrients you claim don't exist.
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We need Vitamins and Minerals from eating a varied healthy diet.
I am a nurse, I deal with this all of the time.
People who eat bad food, whether they are fat or thin are putting their bodies at risk. You need vitamins to absorb essentials like calcium.
The numbers of osteoporosis at such young ages is going through the roof from the new age junk food lifestyle.
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iamaprincessx wrote: »Haha but sorry... that is why your overweight.
Nope. I became overweight in the past because I over-ate, period. I became over-weight prior to joining MFP because I stopped "eating clean" while still putting restrictions on any "unhealthy" foods, as well as shifting my focus from cardio to weight lifting (which I did not do properly, btw). Because I restricted, I would binge. But even BEFORE this, when I dropped down from 195lbs to 140ish lbs at your age, I did it by "eating clean" and being VERY restrictive on what I could and couldn't eat.... and I yo-yoed the same 15-20lbs for 4 years before I finally just kept gaining to almost 190lbs again.
And I'm actually no longer overweight. I'm within the healthy weight range for my height.0 -
Candicutie wrote: »Thanks for all your help girls, i do appreciate you all taking the time to speak to me. I'm gonna clean up my loggings and try to make my target more often. My scale is as good as bought. I'm not really dieting i've no intention of changing the way i eat now. I've really just made a lifestyle change and i've yet to perfect it. I guess you could say i'm a work in progress.
No need for you to be perfect at this all the time, but it's important to know when you are failing to meet your goals and to figure out why that is happening. So working on logging more accurately and at some point weighing your food will be fantastic steps; even without weighing your food, you'll find that simply making and using your own recipes and using entries that correspond to how you actually measured the portion will help you see more consistent results.0 -
iamaprincessx wrote: »Haha but sorry... that is why your overweight.
I eat takeout. I order in probably once every week or two and I'm fine with going to subway/costa/greggs whatever if I'm out and need lunch, or my calories are low and I need to hurry some high cal foods up. Today I went to mcdonalds and had some chicken and some breaded cheese bites and they were delicious. Today I also had some baked goats cheese, cereal, a protein shake and a bunch of cooked veg as a snack. I'm pretty solidly in the underweight section of BMI and have been that way for a good while now. Please don't assume that the only skinny people are those who shun muffins like they're poison - without my 'junk food' to go with my healthier stuff I'd probably average way too low on my calories and be way less healthy than now.Candicutie wrote: »Thanks for all your help girls, i do appreciate you all taking the time to speak to me. I'm gonna clean up my loggings and try to make my target more often. My scale is as good as bought. I'm not really dieting i've no intention of changing the way i eat now. I've really just made a lifestyle change and i've yet to perfect it. I guess you could say i'm a work in progress.
Your attitude is pretty great, I'm sure you'll do well at losing weight if you carry on like this, and it's nice to see people take helpful advice. Just keep on trying and don't be afraid to ask if you need any help
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Candicutie wrote: »Thanks for all your help girls, i do appreciate you all taking the time to speak to me. I'm gonna clean up my loggings and try to make my target more often. My scale is as good as bought. I'm not really dieting i've no intention of changing the way i eat now. I've really just made a lifestyle change and i've yet to perfect it. I guess you could say i'm a work in progress.
No need for you to be perfect at this all the time, but it's important to know when you are failing to meet your goals and to figure out why that is happening. So working on logging more accurately and at some point weighing your food will be fantastic steps; even without weighing your food, you'll find that simply making and using your own recipes and using entries that correspond to how you actually measured the portion will help you see more consistent results.0 -
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iamaprincessx wrote: »We need Vitamins and Minerals from eating a varied healthy diet.
I am a nurse, I deal with this all of the time.
People who eat bad food, whether they are fat or thin are putting their bodies at risk. You need vitamins to absorb essentials like calcium.
The numbers of osteoporosis at such young ages is going through the roof from the new age junk food lifestyle.
Micronutrients from a varied and healthy diet, check. I receive these even when I include "junk" food into my day, because dietary context. And consumption isn't all or non, black and white, good or bad.
To assume that those of us who eat "bad" food are lacking in required micronutrients is just foolish. None of us are eating popcorn chicken for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, all day every day. Actual moderation of such food allows for proper dietary variety which allows for proper macro- and micronutrient consumption.
As far as osteoporosis goes, people who eat "good" food can also experience this due to malnutrition. Malnutrition can occur due to not having enough variety in one's diet or from simply not eating enough or being underweight. And if your current picture is you at your current weight and you plan on losing almost 25 more pounds, then you will be putting yourself at more risk in regards to your health than those of us who are continuing to eat things we enjoy in moderation.0 -
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iamaprincessx wrote: »We need Vitamins and Minerals from eating a varied healthy diet.
I am a nurse, I deal with this all of the time.
People who eat bad food, whether they are fat or thin are putting their bodies at risk. You need vitamins to absorb essentials like calcium.
The numbers of osteoporosis at such young ages is going through the roof from the new age junk food lifestyle.
Wow, you must have gotten through nursing school and your NCLEX testing really quickly if you're only 20 and a nurse already.
And nurses don't usually deal with things the dietitians and nutritionists are specifically trained to handle.0 -
iamaprincessx wrote: »Delusional
You do not look healthy.
Me, or others here? I have another 15-20lbs left to lose, but otherwise I'm fairly healthy. Does being skinny to you equate to being healthy? Will you losing another 20lbs and potentially becoming underweight (based on your picture) mean that you are healthier than the rest of us?
I think at this point you just need to eat a cheeseburger and relax.0 -
This thread is entertaining
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jennifershoo wrote: »This thread is entertaining
also how did I not know that "dancing dean" was a thing0 -
First of all I am British and I am a qualified nurse and yes I specializing in nutrition.
No being 'skinny' does not equate to being 'healthy' to me. I just don't think you should spread your ridiculous little theory about eating whatever junk you want because 'anything can complete your nutritional needs' and as long as you maintain calorie deficit you will loose weight. Sorry but no that's very unhealthy.
Please stop thinking you are right because you are not, if you were you would not be at that size anyway.. i'm sorry but the truth hurts.
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I see your dancing, and raise you a Carlton.
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PrizePopple wrote: »Candicutie wrote: »Well actually i don't, the measurements i inow are sometimes incorrect but i use larger measurements just to be on the safe side. I'd usually rather under eat than overeat.
Get a scale. Cut what you think is a serving of block cheese, or an eyeballed serving of cereal or pasta... and then prepare to be horrified. With cheese I easily have 3 servings when I eyeball, cereal is around 1.5 servings, and pasta is about 2 servings.
That's 226 extra calories of cheese.
55 extra calories of Honey Nut Cheerios (our go to breakfast cereal).
And 200 extra calories of spaghetti noodles.
That's 481 extra calories from my eyeballing mistakes on foods that have a set serving size (as opposed to homemade stuff that can vary wildly). That can really kill a deficit, and that's just with 3 food items for the day. It adds up, and does so quickly.
What I used to think was a lovely tbsp. of Peanut butter... Omg, was closer to 3. I actually stopped eating it (even it being in the house, hubby loves it) altogether, 'cuz that's one of my dangerzones. I just start dreaming of PB spoons all day lol. Yes, just got my scale the other day at a thrift store for 40 something cents and am starting to get a bit better at logging. I'm myself am learning and see that it's going to take patience and practice:) So glad I have one now.
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