17 day diet?
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Is anyone doing the 17 day diet, or interested in starting? I have just started, and love it - but I'm looking for some like-minded people to keep the enthusiasm going with !
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jenniwylie33 wrote: »Is anyone doing the 17 day diet, or interested in starting? I have just started, and love it - but I'm looking for some like-minded people to keep the enthusiasm going with !
Just skimmed through the website for this diet, and it really seems like a bunch of marketing just to sell his book. Some highlights from his website:ACCELERATE: The rapid weight loss cycle. You’ll flush sugar and fat from your system and introduce foods and nutrients into your diet that have been proven to trim belly fat, thigh fat, and other stubborn fat zones.it confuses and boosts your metabolism to help you burn fat rapidly during these four 17-day cyclesACTIVATE: The metabolic boost cycle. You’ll alternate between low- and high-calorie days and watch the fat melt away.
None of this is any more reliable or sustainable than a calorie deficit. It's all just marketing to get you to buy his books and the other products in his shop on the website.
Why not just give the MFP way a try? It will be more sustainable long term and will teach you about portion control. Plus it's free - no need to buy any books.0 -
I'm definitely using MFP to track food too, but I need a little kickstart. I haven't bought the book - just going off of pinterest and blogs etc.0
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What happens on day 18?
I don't believe in fad, packaged up to market, diets
just eat to a calorie defecit - job done!0 -
Went on it two years ago. Followed it To The Letter! Gained weight. Didn't like that.0
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On day 18 you start cycle 2 (another 17, but it re-introduces more whole grains and other forms for protein).
There are 4 cycles. From what I gather, it's more of a "reset" your body/mind to a healthy diet. It's not as focused on the calories, as it is what you're putting into your body. The first cycle focuses on lots of protein from fish and white meats, lots of veggies, portioned fruit and dairy. The program builds up from there, by working portions of grains, legumes and starches back into the diet, and a controlled portion size.
The reason I chose this program was because I was having no luck with weight watchers, and just calorie counting. I needed a little jump start to my metabolism.
It's day 4, and I've lost 2.5lbs.
Now, I certainly don't expect to keep losing at that rate, because that would be crazy, but it's encouraging! And I'm not starving myself, nor eating just salad
Taco salad, chicken souvlaki, omelets, greek yogurt - fairly filling meals thus far!0 -
water weight from carb reduction *nods*
but good luck, it's great when you find something you think you can stick to that helps you learn how to eat appropriately for life0 -
I have been on this diet for 2 months and have lost about 22 pounds I did however take a week off but did keep working out I didn't lose any weight during that week but I didn't gain any either..It seems to be working for me and now my sister in law just started last week and she already lost 3 pounds!0
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That's very motivating!! Thank you for sharing I definitely needed a change. I was stuck in a delicious rut of having cereal or toast before bed, and yummy carb filled foods throughout the day. I've had 2 babies, and we're "done" now, so it's time for me to take back my body (please and thank you!). I have 40lbs to lose. ugh. and really I could stand to lose 50, but I'm only asking for 40
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Huh, I usually have some ice cream, or cookies, or cinnamon rolls, or some other "yummy carb filled food" before bed, and I have no problem losing weight. What's this about a kickstart? Are you dirtbike? Skip the fad diets and just eat all the foodz.
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Well I do have a toddler and a 6 year old. So I often feel like I take the abuse of a dirt bike! LOL. To me Kickstart just means a drastic change in my unhealthy eating, to get me back on the right track. 0
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And, I have all the trouble in the world losing weight. I'm the worst dieter ever - hence the drastic need for change. I'm making a commitment to myself to get on track, and stay on track. Support welcome and reciprocated!0
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jenniwylie33 wrote: »On day 18 you start cycle 2 (another 17, but it re-introduces more whole grains and other forms for protein).
There are 4 cycles. From what I gather, it's more of a "reset" your body/mind to a healthy diet. It's not as focused on the calories, as it is what you're putting into your body. The first cycle focuses on lots of protein from fish and white meats, lots of veggies, portioned fruit and dairy. The program builds up from there, by working portions of grains, legumes and starches back into the diet, and a controlled portion size.
The reason I chose this program was because I was having no luck with weight watchers, and just calorie counting. I needed a little jump start to my metabolism.
It's day 4, and I've lost 2.5lbs. Now, I certainly don't expect to keep losing at that rate, because that would be crazy, but it's encouraging! And I'm not starving myself, nor eating just salad
Taco salad, chicken souvlaki, omelets, greek yogurt - fairly filling meals thus far!
tl;dr .....so it's a 17 day diet but 17 days isn't long enough to flush all your fatz away so you need to do it for 17 days x 4 cycles= 68 day diet and change up the food you eat so it seems like you're doing something special, but really you're just restricting foodz and 70 will probably provide you with a loss so you will think it was the diet that worked. Got it!
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I think the theory behind it is not that you will be skinny in 17 days. The 4th cycle is a maintenance. The way I read it was that it's a 4 cycle program to help kind of "re-teach" you to eat correctly. You can belittle it if you like, but at this point I am finding it very helpful in eliminating all the unnecessary foods I was (knowingly) eating, while giving me somewhat of a template to work from. By having a list of foods to eat, it's giving my brain rules - as opposed to me making and breaking the rules as I go. Yes, it may be a mental game, but I'm pretty sure that's half the battle 0
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No. I can lose weight without torturing myself.0
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jenniwylie33 wrote: »There are 4 cycles. From what I gather, it's more of a "reset" your body/mind to a healthy diet. It's not as focused on the calories, as it is what you're putting into your body. The first cycle focuses on lots of protein from fish and white meats, lots of veggies, portioned fruit and dairy. The program builds up from there, by working portions of grains, legumes and starches back into the diet, and a controlled portion size.
The reason I chose this program was because I was having no luck with weight watchers, and just calorie counting. I needed a little jump start to my metabolism.
It's day 4, and I've lost 2.5lbs. Now, I certainly don't expect to keep losing at that rate, because that would be crazy, but it's encouraging! And I'm not starving myself, nor eating just salad
1. You cannot "reset" your body
2. You cannot jump start your metabolism
3. You lost 2.5 lbs of water weight. It is impossible to lose 2.5 lbs of weight in 4 days. This is likely due to cutting carbs/sodium.
Any diet that has a cycle/scheme/reset period/jumpstart is a sham. Your body does not go, "Oh, vegetables? I will suddenly drop all the fat I gained from a surplus of refined sugar."
What completed loses credibility- the author of the diet touts meal timing as significant to weight loss. "Because of how our metabolism changes throughout the day, you should only eat fruit before 2 p.m., Moreno says." This bro-science was debunked a LONG time ago.0 -
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Ok guys, quit raining on my parade please! I'm making a lifestyle change from eating on the run, and having very unbalanced meals, to eating fruits and veggies, and high protein. I did not ask "would you like to slam my new diet choice?" I asked "Is anyone doing the 17 day diet, or interested in starting? I have just started, and love it - but I'm looking for some like-minded people to keep the enthusiasm going with !"0
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Ignorance: Marketing's best friend.0
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Katerina9408 wrote: »
I was lazy, and I'm trying to make positive changes. I would love a magic wand, but that's not feasible. I would appreciate positive support though. I wasn't trying to sell anyone on a quick fix! I'm not a fool, I'm just motivated, and even if it was water weight that left, it was an encouraging little bump in the right direction.0 -
jenniwylie33 wrote: »Ok guys, quit raining on my parade please! I'm making a lifestyle change from eating on the run, and having very unbalanced meals, to eating fruits and veggies, and high protein. I did not ask "would you like to slam my new diet choice?" I asked "Is anyone doing the 17 day diet, or interested in starting? I have just started, and love it - but I'm looking for some like-minded people to keep the enthusiasm going with !"
We are just telling you the truth.Take it as you want but diets are worthless if u are going to do it only for a short period of time ( couple weeks,months, days).After you end the diet you will go ton junk again.My suggestion is to take things slowly,no one is rushing you.You don't need to go 1000 cal deficit to lose weight.Good things happen slow.Haven't you heard that ?0 -
jenniwylie33 wrote: »Ok guys, quit raining on my parade please! I'm making a lifestyle change from eating on the run, and having very unbalanced meals, to eating fruits and veggies, and high protein. I did not ask "would you like to slam my new diet choice?" I asked "Is anyone doing the 17 day diet, or interested in starting? I have just started, and love it - but I'm looking for some like-minded people to keep the enthusiasm going with !"
Telling you that this is unnecessary is "raining on your parade"? Ok GOOD FOR YOU!!! You can do it! :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:0 -
jenniwylie33 wrote: »Katerina9408 wrote: »
I was lazy, and I'm trying to make positive changes. I would love a magic wand, but that's not feasible. I would appreciate positive support though. I wasn't trying to sell anyone on a quick fix! I'm not a fool, I'm just motivated, and even if it was water weight that left, it was an encouraging little bump in the right direction.
We just don't want you to fall in that cycle of starvation,frustration,binging etc.0 -
We also want you to think logically and not buy in to BS.0
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I would personally prefer the 5:2 diet to this one.0
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jenniwylie33 wrote: »Ok guys, quit raining on my parade please! I'm making a lifestyle change from eating on the run, and having very unbalanced meals, to eating fruits and veggies, and high protein. I did not ask "would you like to slam my new diet choice?" I asked "Is anyone doing the 17 day diet, or interested in starting? I have just started, and love it - but I'm looking for some like-minded people to keep the enthusiasm going with !"
No need to get hostile, we're simply pointing out that these fad diets are not a good idea, they tend to fail. Look at it this way, you're going to make this drastic change, cut out foods that you like because the diet's creator deems them bad. Guess what? At some point that doughnut is going to come calling, and rather than have one (like you might do routinely with what we're advocating), you're going to devour the entire box because you have denied yourself for so long. Welcome to failure.
Most of us are addressing this from a point of experience, and success. We may have failed in the past, and learned from it, some of us on the same diet that you're talking about. Take it or leave it, but don't beat us up for trying to help you. If you just want someone to pat you on the back and give you meaningless praise while ushering you over the cliff with the rest of the lemmings, I'm sure the "17 day diet" has a website with a forum. Go nuts.
Rigger
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People are weighing in because they've been where you are now and they wish they'd known better then.jenniwylie33 wrote: »Ok guys, quit raining on my parade please! I'm making a lifestyle change from eating on the run, and having very unbalanced meals, to eating fruits and veggies, and high protein. I did not ask "would you like to slam my new diet choice?" I asked "Is anyone doing the 17 day diet, or interested in starting? I have just started, and love it - but I'm looking for some like-minded people to keep the enthusiasm going with !"
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Yup. The tone of the replies to this is pretty much the same as for any one else who dares asks a question.
Rigger - everyone is different. I have been sugar free for a month now because I find it much easier to cut stuff out completely rather than eat in moderation. I don't have sugar cravings at all, and in fact just today I had my first taste of refined sugar in over 30 days and it just didn't taste that good anymore, hence I don't see such denial as being part of my downfall. Just because denial of food is an issue for *you* doesn't mean it is for everyone.
And this isn't about help, it's about the condescending tone and so-called 'tough-love' I constantly see from the 'survivors' 'veterans' and 'fighters' here.
Already others have implied she is lazy and ignorant. Nice.
OP - the diet seems is interesting. One point in its favour for me is that it doesn't exclude food groups so it could be a nice way to cut things out and reintroduce them in moderation. Just be aware that no diet will kickstart your metabolism, or help you burn fat faster etc etc. It really is calories in vs calories out for most people. But if you're anything like me you will need a period of time to help you relearn how to eat healthily. For me it was giving up refined carbs/sugar for a month as I tend to over-eat these things and was not doing well on moderation. Now having learned how not to build my meals around these elements I feel I will do better in reintroducing them into my diet. Different people need different tools to help them achieve the same goal, that's all.
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I actually used this in 2012 lost 30lbs and kept it off. Just restarted it again because due to having a baby. Only difference is I added a extra carb to breakfast..... This is an excellent way of weight loss, the initial weight you lose does not come back. So be it water, sodium or whatever ppl say, it encouraging to see the scale go down! I have 40lbs to go to! Good luck and keep it up...ps I bought the book and seriously the best purchase ever.0
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limetree683 wrote: »
Already others have implied she is lazy and ignorant. Nice.
OP - the diet seems is interesting. One point in its favour for me is that it doesn't exclude food groups so it could be a nice way to cut things out and reintroduce them in moderation. Just be aware that no diet will kickstart your metabolism, or help you burn fat faster etc etc. It really is calories in vs calories out for most people. But if you're anything like me you will need a period of time to help you relearn how to eat healthily. For me it was giving up refined carbs/sugar for a month as I tend to over-eat these things and was not doing well on moderation. Now having learned how not to build my meals around these elements I feel I will do better in reintroducing them into my diet. Different people need different tools to help them achieve the same goal, that's all.
Exactly this. I'm not lazy or ignorant - Thank you!
And like you said, my purpose really is to retrain my mind to eat properly. It's more to go through the motions and gain back healthy habits. We all have excuses for why we let weight pile up. I was a skinny teenager, I never had to try to lose weight. As I aged, and had my kids, well guess what - life caught up, and I didn't change my habits. Now I need to, and when I looked at the millions of options, I really liked the 17 day goals, with the guidelines and food options.
I really wouldn't say I'm losing out with the meals I've been eating. They're filling and healthy and well balanced. Tons of fruits and vegetables, and lean meats. It's not that hard...0 -
limetree683 wrote: »Yup. The tone of the replies to this is pretty much the same as for any one else who dares asks a question.
Rigger - everyone is different. I have been sugar free for a month now because I find it much easier to cut stuff out completely rather than eat in moderation. I don't have sugar cravings at all, and in fact just today I had my first taste of refined sugar in over 30 days and it just didn't taste that good anymore, hence I don't see such denial as being part of my downfall. Just because denial of food is an issue for *you* doesn't mean it is for everyone.
And this isn't about help, it's about the condescending tone and so-called 'tough-love' I constantly see from the 'survivors' 'veterans' and 'fighters' here.
Already others have implied she is lazy and ignorant. Nice.
OP - the diet seems is interesting. One point in its favour for me is that it doesn't exclude food groups so it could be a nice way to cut things out and reintroduce them in moderation. Just be aware that no diet will kickstart your metabolism, or help you burn fat faster etc etc. It really is calories in vs calories out for most people. But if you're anything like me you will need a period of time to help you relearn how to eat healthily. For me it was giving up refined carbs/sugar for a month as I tend to over-eat these things and was not doing well on moderation. Now having learned how not to build my meals around these elements I feel I will do better in reintroducing them into my diet. Different people need different tools to help them achieve the same goal, that's all.
Please come back in 6 months and let us know if you're still sugar free...0
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