Eating back exercised calories VS not: Which worked for you?

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  • MoJoPoe
    MoJoPoe Posts: 139 Member
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    I have yo-yoed in my 52 years.

    I believe that reducing your calories too low results in your metabolism adjusting my slowing down and burning fewer calories.

    Thus, I recommend NOT going too low.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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    Why are you listening to a fitness trainer for nutritional advice?



    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/818082-exercise-calories-again-wtf


    Edit: Since it's been made quite apparent that people can't be bothered to actually go to a link that is posted I'll give a simple answer here.

    MFP assumes you're not going to do any exercise so it gives you a calorie goal with a deficit already built in. So you'll lose weight even without exercise. When you exercise, you further increase that deficit to a possibly unhealthy level. Fuel your body.

    Ignoring the blatant attempt at derailment/baiting, ^^this explains it. Which method you pick is totally preference.

    At the end of the day, pick one, stick to it, and tweak calories up or down accordingly if your results are not what is expected (due to estimation errors) after a few weeks.
  • endoftheside
    endoftheside Posts: 568 Member
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    Eating back at least some of my exercise calories gives me motivation to be more active. Today I ate out for lunch and ate the delicious mini muffins without any worries because I had an active afternoon planned. Win all around in my mind. A lighter activity day and I would have enjoyed the salad, but it's nice to be able to mix it up. I am starting much higher than 1200 as well, not eating back calories AND 1200 as a calorie level = in no way sustainable for me.
  • Lochlyn_D
    Lochlyn_D Posts: 492 Member
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    I was in the same situation as you and it was not working for me. I was headed for a binge. So I slowly upped my calories by eating back half of my exercise calories, then all of them. Now I feel way better, have more energy and am losing more weight.
  • ponyskates
    ponyskates Posts: 37
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    I am so sorry to offend you with my absolute statement. I am replying to the idea of the post question "
    TOPIC: Eating back exercised calories VS not: Which worked for you?"

    thanks for the awesome negative vibes, totally makes me feel welcome.

    I don't often come to the MFP forum because it can get fairly negative. I'm really thankful for everyone who answered my question and gave advice. I feel quite ready to start a summer routine based around eating more.

    Please feel welcome! As well, check out reddit.com/r/loseit -- there are so many supportive fitness communities on reddit.
  • barbaratrollman
    barbaratrollman Posts: 317 Member
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    I started out a 1,200 per day and often did not eat back all my exercise calories. I did pretty good at first, but then stalled out for over a month...no weight loss and no loss in inches either.

    When I upped my daily net calories and increased my protein and fat intakes, I began to lose weight again .... faster and at a more steady pace. That's just what seemed to work for me. Give it a try, if it doesn't work you can always go back to lower calories.
  • 55in13
    55in13 Posts: 1,091 Member
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    I replied earlier that I don't because I don't keep an accurate count of calories consumed or burned, so I go with the method that uses estimates. Unless you have a lab, you use estimates also. I don't care how accurate your scales are, foods are not consistent. Anyway, the estimates you use for either method should give you roughly the same result for the same goal. The biggest concern I have is that when they do studies and have people track calories in a controlled environment where the actual numbers are known to the researchers, people underestimate consumption and overestimate burn. Not every single person does, but on average they do. OTOH, I know people who would check Active for their lifestyle because they don't always take the escalator at the mall...
  • erikkmcvay
    erikkmcvay Posts: 238 Member
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    OTOH, I know people who would check Active for their lifestyle because they don't always take the escalator at the mall...

    I think this happens in some part because people don't understand what that really means (active)....a construction worker is active.

    I sit at a computer all day but ride or walk for an hour (or so) every lunch (except my two days off a week which usually lie on the weekend) and so I choose 'Sedentary'.

    Consider: I'm building a cabin in the woods, mill my own lumber, garden, do a load of cardio and generally am an active person BUT I chose SEDENTARY because it reflects my job which is the bulk of my day.

    The beauty of this is I lose weight and get to eat back some or all of my cardio calories :)
  • CharitaC
    CharitaC Posts: 21 Member
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    The whole "eating back my calories" thing is just too confusing to me. I actually stopped exercising several weeks ago because I was just too confusing and then lost an additional 10 lbs. Now I am at a standstill holding at 19lbs losts for the past 2 weeks.

    When I was trying to eat the calories back, I had to force myself to eat because I wasn't hungry and many times, I was so miserable after eating the calories back that I felt like a pig, so I just stopped trying to eat them back. I'm not the expert and I am positive that those that encourage you to eat the calories back, know what they are talking about, but it just did not work for me.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
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    The whole "eating back my calories" thing is just too confusing to me. I actually stopped exercising several weeks ago because I was just too confusing and then lost an additional 10 lbs. Now I am at a standstill holding at 19lbs losts for the past 2 weeks.

    When I was trying to eat the calories back, I had to force myself to eat because I wasn't hungry and many times, I was so miserable after eating the calories back that I felt like a pig, so I just stopped trying to eat them back. I'm not the expert and I am positive that those that encourage you to eat the calories back, know what they are talking about, but it just did not work for me.

    With all due respect, if you don't understand the concept, how do you know if you were doing it right, and as such, how do you know if it was the method that didn't work or your execution of it?
  • erikkmcvay
    erikkmcvay Posts: 238 Member
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    The whole "eating back my calories" thing is just too confusing to me. I actually stopped exercising several weeks ago because I was just too confusing and then lost an additional 10 lbs. Now I am at a standstill holding at 19lbs losts for the past 2 weeks.

    When I was trying to eat the calories back, I had to force myself to eat because I wasn't hungry and many times, I was so miserable after eating the calories back that I felt like a pig, so I just stopped trying to eat them back. I'm not the expert and I am positive that those that encourage you to eat the calories back, know what they are talking about, but it just did not work for me.

    I think if you aren't hungry then don't force it unless there is an issue there (as in you're eating so little that the body is shutting down). Some people just don't eat that much (my wife being one of them) or they drink 600 cals in coffee and cream for breakfast (hmmm sounds like my wife! lol).

    For me 'eating back' what I burn isn't so much as 'eating back' as it is 'eating FOR'. What I mean by this is simple and best explain in an example:

    Tonight I'll walk two hours with my wife in a 'walk for the cure' (not sure what the name is but it's a cancer charity she's doing for work and she signed me up to walk with her). We'll walk about 7 miles maybe closer to 8 depending on mood and over that period I'll burn around 1000 calories. So this morning I'll indulge a little at breakfast and add some 'crunch' to my oatmeal (an additional 140 calories). Then I'll eat my normal lunch but I'll toss back a double protein shake as a 'snack' in the afternoon (an additional 280 calories). At dinner I'll allow myself to have a little extra perhaps in the form of some home made bread with butter (guesstimate 120 calories). I'll keep my 'eating FOR' calories around 600-700 calories total and I'll burn them off during the walk.

    Normally I walk at lunch and after dinner so on days I walk I allow a little extra throughout the day. I ride at lunch and on days I'm going to ride, since I know I burn around 1100 calories on my current 13 mile rides I'll add a double shake about an hour after breakfast (maybe two but not closer then one hour before my ride) which gives me 280 calories and 54grams of protein and then I'll have something for a snack after lunch (either more protein or nuts, an energy bar -- something) and at dinner I'll allow a little indulgence.

    I try to manage this pretty closely so i don't abuse it and if I think I'm abusing it a little (hey I was pretty big at 282 lbs so clearly I abused my eating before and can do it again!) then I'll go for a two mile walk after dinner to burn an additional 300 calories so I'm not overdoing the food :d

    I'm 235.0lbs today (my lightest so far this year is 234.4 which was the start of the week) and after 7 months (5 since I changed my diet) I've found this method produces a steady, albeit somewhat slow, weight/fat loss and prevents muscle soreness (I suffered with sore legs constantly until I upped my protein and allowed more of it when I worked out hard) due to over training.

    My advice, and I'm no expert, is to find what works for you by reading what others have done to overcome similar issues and to be patient. Losing weight requires changing your life.

    Dieting is temporary -- changing your life isn't :)
  • CharitaC
    CharitaC Posts: 21 Member
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    You have a point, but I already said that I was confused, so I can't answer your question.
  • erikkmcvay
    erikkmcvay Posts: 238 Member
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    You have a point, but I already said that I was confused, so I can't answer your question.

    I'm sorry :( Didn't mean to sound like I was asking a question. Was just trying to help by showing what I do.

    Good luck
  • CharitaC
    CharitaC Posts: 21 Member
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    I'm going to hang in there and see if I can figure it out or perhaps I'll just give it another week considering that I really haven't done anything different to warrant the "standstill."

    Thanks for the input. I'm just taking it all in and using what I can.
  • erikkmcvay
    erikkmcvay Posts: 238 Member
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    Yes hang in there! :) and a week without change is nothing...heck I went 3 weeks without much change recently but I knew it was my own fault so I dropped my sodium intake (I'd been abusing sodium) and BAM! 5 pounds down almost overnight (ok in a week).

    Another thing to consider is that you've lost (according to your ticker at the bottom of your posts) 19lbs which means things have changed. Have you re-adjusted your goals? I do for every 5 pounds I lose. I just go in, adjust my goals using the auto feature (it's easier this way) and then go back and adjust again to change my fiber to 38grams (that's really what I need for a full diet but since I'm on a reduced cal diet I know I won't get that much), 55/25/20 (carbs, protein, fat) and 1500mg's of sodium and then go to my foods page and adjust as needed.

    When I started with MFP I was already down about 20lbs and my goal was about 1600 for the day, today another 25 pounds down and my goal is 1450 for the day....had I stuck with the 1600 I'd likely not have dropped the entire 25lbs.

    So be sure to adjust those numbers and religiously stick to the diary and if you do cardio, eat a little extra on the days you do :) Track it and heck, even sometimes add a little more if you want, or as I like to say 'splurge' on those days :D
  • Shoechick5
    Shoechick5 Posts: 221 Member
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    I let my body dictate what I do...and that's usually eat my calories back. After a good workout, I'm hungry no ifs and or buts and I'm not going to ignore that. My body needs fuel.
  • CharitaC
    CharitaC Posts: 21 Member
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    I agree. I never feel comfortable with my calorie burn estimation. This includes walking and my elliptical machine in particular (it grossly overestimates in my opinion based on what I've read about the Gazelle on the internet. That's the main reason I stopped exercising weeks ago (it was interfering with my ability to calculate my calories).

    I also use the fitbit, but have not worn it in a couple of days. At the end of my days, I always question the accuracy of the Fitbit's reading. In the end, I am just counting calories consumed until I can figure out what other system will work for me.
  • cyndilie
    cyndilie Posts: 52
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    I started on 1200 calories a day at 171.5 in mid-April (6 weeks ago), I'm now at 158.5 and I do not eat my calories back. That said, I do plan to start upping my calories and eating my calories back when I go into maintenance, but for now this is working for me. Everyone is different, but I feel great, I'm working out for the first time in my life (I'm 56), I'm getting plenty to eat, and the best part is I'm losing weight.
  • Shoechick5
    Shoechick5 Posts: 221 Member
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    I have to question what kind of workouts are people doing that don't eat their calories back? There's no way my body could survive on 1200 calories when we do 5 mile hikes. I also wonder if in fact you're losing mostly fat or if there's a lot of muscle being lost their too.
  • SteelySunshine
    SteelySunshine Posts: 1,092 Member
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    The question isn't whether someone else should or shouldn't eat back their exercise calories. The question is should the OP eat them back.

    If you are close to goal and you are only currently eating 1200 calories then definitely eat them back. At least eat back a reasonable amount. If you only have 200 exercise calories then eat back 100, if you have 500 then eat back 300 or 400 and so on, it really depends on how many you have and how accurate your intake and burn levels are both are estimations unless you have a fit bit a food scale and time everything to the minute. I don't see any reason a person should eat fewer than 1500 calories. That is really amazing to me if someone says they can't lose weight on that few.