Calories or protein?
prattiger65
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I questioned which forum to put this, I decided that it may receive less derp in here. Simple question; its late in the day and you are short on protein but also short on calories. Do you get the protein and go over, or short your protein for the day? I know, I know, just don't let it happen......... I know, but what if?
Situation: Cutting 250-500 calories per day, progressive lifting 3xper week, said day is a lifting day.
Situation: Cutting 250-500 calories per day, progressive lifting 3xper week, said day is a lifting day.
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I'd do the protein, especially on lifting day.0
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One day of going over won't kill you but shorting protein can hinder muscle repair and make DOMS last longer.0
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That's what I have done when it happens. I recently focused on trying to get the protein in and I sometimes still struggle with eating too much and missing my macros. Its getting better, but just like anything else, it takes some work to get it done.0
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Yeah definitely agree -- protein on weight lifting days. Don't worry. You'll figure it out!0
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I would also get the protein in. Worst case (if you are cutting) is you end up at maintenance calorie level for the day.
Long term solution is to plan your day out so that doesn't happen. But you already got that part :P0 -
prattiger65 wrote: »That's what I have done when it happens. I recently focused on trying to get the protein in and I sometimes still struggle with eating too much and missing my macros. Its getting better, but just like anything else, it takes some work to get it done.
Look at what macro you are going over on and be more careful with it in the future.0 -
protein ftw. I was just slobbing off on a chicken leg last night in bed for this very reason llol0
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I'm not that anal about things and I probably wouldn't worry about either scenario. Being a little short on protein isn't going to really matter and neither is going over a little on your calories.0
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Protein definitely0
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Given that protein has about 4 cal / g I'd go for the protein first as it is needed for muscle repair/recovery and gets you closer to your calorie target.0
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Depends on the day, what snacks are available, etc. I tend to go over protein a few days a week so if I've had a run of a few days with higher protein, I wouldn't be bugged by a lower protein day, meaning that I'd eat whatever sounded good whether it had protein in it or not.0
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It kinda depends on what your protein goal is. Some people have much higher protein goals than what's necessary. If that's the case, then I'd recommend eating to the Calorie goal. That said, I'd generally agree that the protein goal should probably be met - and just deal with being over for a day on Calories.0
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I wouldn't worry about being exactly on target every day.0
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Are you saying go over on your protein recommendation and hit your daily calorie requirement? If so, then definitely do what you need to do to hit that calorie requirement. Going over protein is probably one of the better options but in general total calories is what matters most. I know of at least one study in-which they grossly overfed people on protein (In excess of maintenance calories) and they did not gain weight. Definitely hit your calorie target.0
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Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »Are you saying go over on your protein recommendation and hit your daily calorie requirement? If so, then definitely do what you need to do to hit that calorie requirement. Going over protein is probably one of the better options but in general total calories is what matters most. I know of at least one study in-which they grossly overfed people on protein (In excess of maintenance calories) and they did not gain weight. Definitely hit your calorie target.
Color me curious to see this study. Can you post a link?
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prattiger65 wrote: »Simple question; its late in the day and you are short on protein but also short on calories. Do you get the protein and go over, or short your protein for the day?
If you're short on protein but high on calories I would ask yourself what's more important, losing lbs or gaining strength. I'd also ask yourself if you can make up for either of those the following day.
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never2bstopped wrote: »One day of going over won't kill you but shorting protein can hinder muscle repair and make DOMS last longer.
Links?
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Clarification. either be short of protein or over on calories. Assume I over ate carbs/fat and am near or at calorie goal for the day, but say, 25% short on protein. These are arbitrary numbers just for conversation sake.
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I just now took a look at your diary. I'm going to figure this was regarding Sunday. Yeah - more protein.0
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never2bstopped wrote: »Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »Are you saying go over on your protein recommendation and hit your daily calorie requirement? If so, then definitely do what you need to do to hit that calorie requirement. Going over protein is probably one of the better options but in general total calories is what matters most. I know of at least one study in-which they grossly overfed people on protein (In excess of maintenance calories) and they did not gain weight. Definitely hit your calorie target.
Color me curious to see this study. Can you post a link?
Unfortunately I can't link you into my school's library. Try searching this,
Author search;
Antonio, Jose1ja839@nova.edu
Peacock, Corey A.1cpeacock@nova.edu
Ellerbroek, Anya1anyaeller@hotmail.com
Fromhoff, Brandon1bf432@nova.edu
Silver, Tobin1tsilver@nova.edu
Subject Terms:
*PROTEINS
*BODY composition
*DIET
*CARBOHYDRATES
*WEIGHT gain
Keyword(s):
Body composition; Diet; Exercise; Protein; Supplements
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yopeeps025 wrote: »never2bstopped wrote: »One day of going over won't kill you but shorting protein can hinder muscle repair and make DOMS last longer.
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Define "shorting protein" too. There is a WIDE range of protein recommendation for people involved in resistance training. I would personally be more concerned about falling short on total calories.0 -
Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »never2bstopped wrote: »One day of going over won't kill you but shorting protein can hinder muscle repair and make DOMS last longer.
Links?
Define "shorting protein" too. There is a WIDE range of protein recommendation for people involved in resistance training. I would personally be more concerned about falling short on total calories.
I never heard of eating more protein to relieve DOMS. Then again I rarely experience that anymore.
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I just now took a look at your diary. I'm going to figure this was regarding Sunday. Yeah - more protein.0
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yopeeps025 wrote: »never2bstopped wrote: »One day of going over won't kill you but shorting protein can hinder muscle repair and make DOMS last longer.
Links?
For me.... Sorry it was personal experience I was drawing from. I should have made sure that was clear.0 -
never2bstopped wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »never2bstopped wrote: »One day of going over won't kill you but shorting protein can hinder muscle repair and make DOMS last longer.
Links?
For me.... Sorry it was personal experience I was drawing from. I should have made sure that was clear.
Interesting.
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never2bstopped wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »never2bstopped wrote: »One day of going over won't kill you but shorting protein can hinder muscle repair and make DOMS last longer.
Links?
For me.... Sorry it was personal experience I was drawing from. I should have made sure that was clear.
It might be a coincidence. One of those correlation does not equal causation situations.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »never2bstopped wrote: »One day of going over won't kill you but shorting protein can hinder muscle repair and make DOMS last longer.
Links?
For giggles, I did a google search "protein and DOMS" there are several studies on the subject. I did not read the conclusions only the abstracts on a couple. I think there "may" be something to it.0 -
prattiger65 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »never2bstopped wrote: »One day of going over won't kill you but shorting protein can hinder muscle repair and make DOMS last longer.
Links?
For giggles, I did a google search "protein and DOMS" there are several studies on the subject. I did not read the conclusions only the abstracts on a couple. I think there "may" be something to it.
The thing is that "short" or "under" needs to be defined. What would be short for me, is probably still normal for most other people. Short for me might by 0.6gm's / LB instead of 1gm / LB. From some people their protein might be 1.4gm's / KG and only doing 1gm / KG would be short for them.0 -
prattiger65 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »never2bstopped wrote: »One day of going over won't kill you but shorting protein can hinder muscle repair and make DOMS last longer.
Links?
For giggles, I did a google search "protein and DOMS" there are several studies on the subject. I did not read the conclusions only the abstracts on a couple. I think there "may" be something to it.
Is it ok I feel slightly vindicated by this post?
I always just thought that since protein was the used to build muscle it would make sense that it would help shorten DOMS. Again all speculation on personal experience. I have never really researched it.0 -
prattiger65 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »never2bstopped wrote: »One day of going over won't kill you but shorting protein can hinder muscle repair and make DOMS last longer.
Links?
For giggles, I did a google search "protein and DOMS" there are several studies on the subject. I did not read the conclusions only the abstracts on a couple. I think there "may" be something to it.
Since you just googled them can you post the links?
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