Is there such thing as good and bad calories?
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Drinking tons of Sierra Nevada. If it's bad don't tell me so.0
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_Terrapin_ wrote: »Is there a difference between good and bad calories or are calories just calories...like is it ok to eat fried food from home made in the deep fryer? Are those considered bad calories?
calorie is a unit of measure.
Fat: 1 gram = 9 calories
Protein: 1 gram = 4 calories
Carbohydrates: 1 gram = 4 calories
Alcohol: 1 gram = 7 calories
when you want to lower calories, lower carbs and increase protein. Typically, most people consume too many carbs. 25g carbs = 100 calories.
Note: you want to eat 65g fat (585 calories of fat) or less on a 2000 calorie diet, however, less is not always better with fat. You do want to eat less than 20g saturated fat though.
perspective:
2000 calories
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54g protein (215 calories)
65g fat (585 calories)
300g carb (1200 calories)
imo, if you lower carbs by 150g (600 calories) you should increase protein by 30g (336 calories), which would be 1736 calories (basically a 15% deficit).
Personally, for my needs, I eat:
146g protein (584 calories)
87g fat (783 calories)
85g carbs (340g carbs)
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1707 (food diary doesn't add it up correctly and incorrectly lists it as 1671).
Note: I eat more fats due to my carbs being lower. There is a reasoning behind it that I dont feel like explaining.
What does that have to do with anything being discussed here?
answered the initial question in detail...
fried foods are full of saturated fat....
Its easier to understand something when given examples.
So is there a point where saturate fat could be used too much in a diet? What if someone consumes 50-60% of their calories using just saturated fat. The rest are carbs(about 7%0 and protein. Would this make sense?
All im gonna say on that is everything in moderation.0 -
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As someone who has been logging food daily for about four months and who works out hard six days a week on the average, I can say that when I was only looking at the calorie number and staying within that on a daily basis (and not really paying attention to fat, protein, carbs or sugar), I noticed no significant changes to the appearance of my body ... even though I know I'm getting stronger based on my ability to accomplish more reps, etc. (I'd say I was usually way under on carbs, and wayyyy over on fat and/or sugar, depending on the day).
The last three weeks, I have focused on not only staying within my calorie goal, but also making sure that my fat grams were at or under the recommended number. Huge results. Every day, someone comments on my "weight loss" (although the number on the scale has stayed pretty much the same). My muscle definition is becoming more apparent and I have lost several inches off my thighs and stomach. So - I think a calorie is a calorie and it's basically a mathmatical equation, yes. But I also think that the composition of the calories you put in your mouth definitely affects your physical appearance, even if the numbers don't show it.
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Post hoc ergo propter hoc.0
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_Terrapin_ wrote: »Is there a difference between good and bad calories or are calories just calories...like is it ok to eat fried food from home made in the deep fryer? Are those considered bad calories?
calorie is a unit of measure.
Fat: 1 gram = 9 calories
Protein: 1 gram = 4 calories
Carbohydrates: 1 gram = 4 calories
Alcohol: 1 gram = 7 calories
when you want to lower calories, lower carbs and increase protein. Typically, most people consume too many carbs. 25g carbs = 100 calories.
Note: you want to eat 65g fat (585 calories of fat) or less on a 2000 calorie diet, however, less is not always better with fat. You do want to eat less than 20g saturated fat though.
perspective:
2000 calories
=
54g protein (215 calories)
65g fat (585 calories)
300g carb (1200 calories)
imo, if you lower carbs by 150g (600 calories) you should increase protein by 30g (336 calories), which would be 1736 calories (basically a 15% deficit).
Personally, for my needs, I eat:
146g protein (584 calories)
87g fat (783 calories)
85g carbs (340g carbs)
=
1707 (food diary doesn't add it up correctly and incorrectly lists it as 1671).
Note: I eat more fats due to my carbs being lower. There is a reasoning behind it that I dont feel like explaining.
What does that have to do with anything being discussed here?
answered the initial question in detail...
fried foods are full of saturated fat....
Its easier to understand something when given examples.
So is there a point where saturate fat could be used too much in a diet? What if someone consumes 50-60% of their calories using just saturated fat. The rest are carbs(about 7%0 and protein. Would this make sense?
All im gonna say on that is everything in moderation.
I would agree with this....
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Calorie as a unit of measure for energy.
Is there good or bad energy?
I guess there is.
Doesn't the good side have the upper hand right now?
But what's coming in episode 7, does the dark side become stronger?
This depends on what you want in the last 3 episodes; do you want viewers coming back for the next season?
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SweatEBettE wrote: »As someone who has been logging food daily for about four months and who works out hard six days a week on the average, I can say that when I was only looking at the calorie number and staying within that on a daily basis (and not really paying attention to fat, protein, carbs or sugar), I noticed no significant changes to the appearance of my body ... even though I know I'm getting stronger based on my ability to accomplish more reps, etc. (I'd say I was usually way under on carbs, and wayyyy over on fat and/or sugar, depending on the day).
The last three weeks, I have focused on not only staying within my calorie goal, but also making sure that my fat grams were at or under the recommended number. Huge results. Every day, someone comments on my "weight loss" (although the number on the scale has stayed pretty much the same). My muscle definition is becoming more apparent and I have lost several inches off my thighs and stomach. So - I think a calorie is a calorie and it's basically a mathmatical equation, yes. But I also think that the composition of the calories you put in your mouth definitely affects your physical appearance, even if the numbers don't show it.
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Or it could be that after 4 months of consistently staying within calorie goal and working out faithfully, the recomp began to be visible, regardless of the content of your calories. But no doubt, it is healthier, so keep doing what you are doing.
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laurielima wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »laurielima wrote: »Is there a difference between good and bad calories or are calories just calories...like is it ok to eat fried food from home made in the deep fryer? Are those considered bad calories?
I did not mean to be so abrupt but asking if cals are good or bad starts a big rukus on this site. in my opinion...there are bad cals in the food world. I do eat them but I know they are bad and I adjust ALL of my eating to support the fact that I am eating bad calories.
other people want to call it healthy cals v unhealthy cals or empty cals v nutritious cals.
Its just splitting hairs. IMO
What makes specific calorie bad?
When it's more than you need.
If the calorie is more than you need, it's no better or worse because of the eating. It just is what it is either way. The act of eating the excess calorie may lead to a undesired effect. To me it's an important distinction.
Are you honestly telling me that the calories from a ...tomato and from a fried dough..are somehow similar calories in your eyes. One calorie count is packed with nutrition and one calorie count is not. wow. i can't believe you have to be told that but...ok.
Wow, You picked the one evil food that is often thrown at others in anger... :bigsmile: I know which of the two I'd pick. I've actually in recent months stopped buying tomatoes since I probably just don't really like them, and have been experimenting with a fried dough snack over the last few days. Either of those items can be "part" of a healthy diet. Zoom out a little for a better view
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laurielima wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »laurielima wrote: »Is there a difference between good and bad calories or are calories just calories...like is it ok to eat fried food from home made in the deep fryer? Are those considered bad calories?
I did not mean to be so abrupt but asking if cals are good or bad starts a big rukus on this site. in my opinion...there are bad cals in the food world. I do eat them but I know they are bad and I adjust ALL of my eating to support the fact that I am eating bad calories.
other people want to call it healthy cals v unhealthy cals or empty cals v nutritious cals.
Its just splitting hairs. IMO
What makes specific calorie bad?
When it's more than you need.
If the calorie is more than you need, it's no better or worse because of the eating. It just is what it is either way. The act of eating the excess calorie may lead to a undesired effect. To me it's an important distinction.
Are you honestly telling me that the calories from a ...tomato and from a fried dough..are somehow similar calories in your eyes. One calorie count is packed with nutrition and one calorie count is not. wow. i can't believe you have to be told that but...ok.
Wow, You picked the one evil food that is often thrown at others in anger... :bigsmile: I know which of the two I'd pick. I've actually in recent months stopped buying tomatoes since I probably just don't really like them, and have been experimenting with a fried dough snack over the last few days. Either of those items can be "part" of a healthy diet. Zoom out a little for a better view
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You don't have to throw out the deep fryer to lose weight. This is how I would eat my one piece of deep fried chicken. I'd have a large Greek salad lightly dressed to go with it. One piece of chicken would stay in my calorie goal for the meal and the salad would fill me up. The micro nutrients in the salad not to mention the fiber are bonus.0
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