Fat Free Milk or Soy Milk?

ashleydanib

I was wondering which milk is the healthier option. I use a cup of fat free milk in my cereal every morning and a cup of light vanilla soy milk in my protein shake. Which is best? They also have Almond Milk and now Cashew Milk.

FatFreeFrolicking

Whichever you like the most...

neanderthin

Personally removing natural fats to 0 in any product is more of a merchandizing maneuver for market share, nothing more, and certainly nothing to do with health.

mccindy72

ashleydanib wrote: »

I was wondering which milk is the healthier option. I use a cup of fat free milk in my cereal every morning and a cup of light vanilla soy milk in my protein shake. Which is best? They also have Almond Milk and now Cashew Milk.

There is no reason to eliminate milk unless you are lactose or dairy intolerant. Dairy milk has protein and the fat in it is healthy fat.

monikker

Depends on your goals. Since going low carb I've switched to organic unsweetened soy over non fat dairy because the soy is 1/3 the carbs. It's 4-5 g of fat per cup as opposed to the non fat milk. So for me soy is perfect right now. Will go to 2% dairy or something when I start to bulk for muscle building. Sounds like you're using vanilla soy milk with sugar in it so the carbs and cals are probably similar to the milk but with more fat.

monikker

Also, almond and cashew milk have 0 or 1 g of protein so if you care about protein those are worthless. Soy is just a gram or less of protein so almost equal to dairy.

tat2cookie

I can't have milk, but I love cashew milk.

callsitlikeiseeit

whatever you like

i prefer whole milk but settle for 1% LOLOLOL

strong dislike for soy milk (sorry all you soy milk lovers lol)

yogi323

I love soy milk personally. I like the taste, texture, everything! It's got more calcium than milk, and is on par with protein.

cheshirecatastrophe

If you are aiming to build/conserve muscle and strength training accordingly, dairy (whey) is significantly more effective as a protein source than soy. And on the other hand, soy protein has some protective benefits as far as heart health goes. At least in rats.

Otherwise, barring any intolerances or actual allergies, it's a matter of preference. Note that almond and cashew milk are basically white water, nutritionally speaking.

Alluminati

Neither. Might as well eat water with cereal.

Brittni__duh

Soy. The breast milk of another mammal is weird.

monikker

OdesAngel wrote: »

Neither. Might as well eat water with cereal.

Lol, what?

Christine_72

monikker wrote: »

OdesAngel wrote: »

Neither. Might as well eat water with cereal.

Lol, what?

probably coz it tastes like crap lol

I can bear coconut almond milk in smoothies and tea. But not on cereal blaaaarrrrhhhh

jennifershoo

I avoid soy like the plague. It's phytoestrogenic, meaning that it mimics the estrogen in your body.

lemurcat12

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

Whichever you like the most...

This. I don't drink a lot of milk (I eat a lot of cottage cheese and yogurt, though), but when I do use it I usually like the protein in dairy and don't personally care to add a lot of extra soy to my diet, although I do eat tofu on occasion. However, for someone less worried about protein or lactose intolerant something like almond or cashew milk is great, especially given the low calories. (I'm considering making some just to see how it tastes).

I normally use 2%.

xtraordinary

Brittni__duh wrote: »

Soy. The breast milk of another mammal is weird.

I'm glad someone said that. Btw Happy Mother's Day to all the cows that have their babies ripped off their teets, so humans can drink it.

janejellyroll

jennifershoo wrote: »

I avoid soy like the plague. It's phytoestrogenic, meaning that it mimics the estrogen in your body.

This sounds scary, but what does it actually mean? What specific harm will it cause you?

RodaRose

Drink your milks with fat. You need some fats and oils.

lemurcat12

Eh, like I said above, drink the one you like and that fits into your macros. Almost no one is going to lack fat simply because they choose not to drink milk with it. (That said, if you like it better, don't fear dairy products with fat. Some find them more satiating.)

arditarose

Whatever milk you want. I avoid soy because it drives me a little nuts, but otherwise all milk is fair game.

gantzgirl87

The only milk that agrees with my stomach is almond milk (I like the unsweetened vanilla variety). The taste takes a little getting used to, but in smoothies it's not that big of a deal. I say choose whichever you like that fits in your goals.

jennifershoo

janejellyroll wrote: »

jennifershoo wrote: »

I avoid soy like the plague. It's phytoestrogenic, meaning that it mimics the estrogen in your body.

This sounds scary, but what does it actually mean? What specific harm will it cause you?

Soy messes with your hormones. GMO-soy is the cheapest filler in tons of food. No wonder everyone gets thyroid problems, PCOS and other hormonal issues. Young girls get their period earlier than before (8-10yo, while it's was around 12-16 when I was young). Too much estrogen is a cause of breast and ovarian cancer....
Too much estrogen in men cause issues like low-testosterone, infertility, low sex drive....

jennifershoo

There are other alternatives: rice milk, coconut, almond, hemp, etc.

DancingMoosie

My favorite is organic non-gmo unsweetened soy milk. It has fewer calories than non-fat milk, but still has protein, calcium, and fat. It can be used in many recipes instead of milk. I don't care so much for dairy milk (taste-wise), and used to be lactose intolerant.

janejellyroll

jennifershoo wrote: »

Soy messes with your hormones. GMO-soy is the cheapest filler in tons of food. No wonder everyone gets thyroid problems, PCOS and other hormonal issues. Young girls get their period earlier than before (8-10yo, while it's was around 12-16 when I was young). Too much estrogen is a cause of breast and ovarian cancer....
Too much estrogen in men cause issues like low-testosterone, infertility, low sex drive....

But everyone doesn't have those issues.

Are you referencing specific studies here?

melimomTARDIS

i think all the soy fear is largely a paper tiger, to be honest.

monikker

melimomTARDIS wrote: »

i think all the soy fear is largely a paper tiger, to be honest.

Same here. I'm not afraid of organic unsweetened soy milk. A couple cups a day should be ok for most healthy people...despite what they say about estrogen. I have a hard time believing a little soy milk is gonna do that to you.

jennifershoo

To be honest, soy is still under studies and the results are still cloudy. What is known is that unfermented soybean has anti-nutrient, anti-thyroid and endocrine disruptor properties.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24440006

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24473985

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22908106

The only benefits I have ever heard of was on postmenopausal women, which makes sense because after menopause, the levels of estrogen (and progesterone) fall.

I don't see it as fear mongering, but rather as being cautious. I will not add more soy to my diet on purpose.

janejellyroll

jennifershoo wrote: »

To be honest, soy is still under studies and the results are still cloudy.

I don't see it as fear mongering, but rather as being cautious. I will not add more soy to my diet on purpose.

But here's the thing: your statements before were very definite and specific. If it is still under study and cloudy, maybe your statements should reflect that.

I understand that you want to avoid it, but I think your earlier statements went way beyond what the evidence shows. After all, I believe some have speculated that dairy may be behind earlier puberty for young women - - but until it is shown to be true, we shouldn't write as if it is.

neanderthin

janejellyroll wrote: »

jennifershoo wrote: »

To be honest, soy is still under studies and the results are still cloudy.

I don't see it as fear mongering, but rather as being cautious. I will not add more soy to my diet on purpose.

But here's the thing: your statements before were very definite and specific. If it is still under study and cloudy, maybe your statements should reflect that.

I understand that you want to avoid it, but I think your earlier statements went way beyond what the evidence shows. After all, I believe some have speculated that dairy may be behind earlier puberty for young women - - but until it is shown to be true, we shouldn't write as if it is.

I guess you missed her next post.