Stop the madness!!!
jimmmer
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Urgh... Cardio vs Lifting. Walking vs Running. Martial Art A vs Martial Art B. Godzilla vs King Kong...
When will the chain of stupid ever be broken? (Answer: probably never).
Just pick an activity you like to do. Apply yourself properly and do it correctly and progressively so you gain from it and grow as a person (a novel concept, I'm sure).
C'mon, it can't be THAT hard, can it?!
When will the chain of stupid ever be broken? (Answer: probably never).
Just pick an activity you like to do. Apply yourself properly and do it correctly and progressively so you gain from it and grow as a person (a novel concept, I'm sure).
C'mon, it can't be THAT hard, can it?!
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But...but... I want the BEST!
So tell me what's the BEST exercise for my non-existent or ambiguous goals. Cause that's what I need to know!
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Exactly.
I think we make the mistake of looking at exercise to much from a results standpoint.
The exercise that will transform YOUR body the most is the one YOU develop a passion for and apply yourself to.
Find something you love, and go do it. Don't worry so much about the effect.
I lost fifty pounds years ago. I did it by doing lots of cardio and training at the gym (along with diet obviously).
Eventually I stopped doing that, and gained it all back.
Why? Because that took discipline, and Eventually, I got bored with it.
This time around im exploring active hobbies in addition to the gym. I'm loving cycling. Registered for a triathlon and a mud race this summer. Made plans to go hiking.
These are things I am beginning to want to for the enjoyment of it, not just to lose weight.
Hopefully that will take the work out of maintenance.0 -
There is only one true plank.
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Well, part of the issue lies with "pick an activity you like to do". MANY people, who aren't used to exercising on a regular basis, can't imagine liking ANY of them. So, why not ask for the advantages and disadvantages of one exercise over another? Really, if it bugs you, then don't reply.0
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Well, part of the issue lies with "pick an activity you like to do". MANY people, who aren't used to exercising on a regular basis, can't imagine liking ANY of them. So, why not ask for the advantages and disadvantages of one exercise over another? Really, if it bugs you, then don't reply.
It certainly doesn't bug me. Not at all.
I would just advise a "try everything" approach to people new to exercise. And I am one of those people who had been sedentary my whole life.0 -
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I like a variety and particularly sports. When I train at the gym it's Olympic lifting and power lifting based because I can't see just doing something for asthetics.0
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dougpconnell219 wrote: »Exactly.
I think we make the mistake of looking at exercise to much from a results standpoint.
The exercise that will transform YOUR body the most is the one YOU develop a passion for and apply yourself to.
Find something you love, and go do it. Don't worry so much about the effect.
I lost fifty pounds years ago. I did it by doing lots of cardio and training at the gym (along with diet obviously).
Eventually I stopped doing that, and gained it all back.
Why? Because that took discipline, and Eventually, I got bored with it.
This time around im exploring active hobbies in addition to the gym. I'm loving cycling. Registered for a triathlon and a mud race this summer. Made plans to go hiking.
These are things I am beginning to want to for the enjoyment of it, not just to lose weight.
Hopefully that will take the work out of maintenance.
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i can understand people wanting to bypass the whole trial and error phase that many have to go through before finding something that they like and that they'll stick to.
personally, i went through a few things before i figured out that triathlon was my thing. i tried crossfit, olympic lifting, body weight, and martial arts before i decided that swimming, cycling, and running was my going to be my thing.0 -
I dunno due to safety issues 2 of my favorite, hiking and swimming, are out despite ease of access. Neither one is one that should be done alone lol. But I found a class I like and a teaching style I can appreciate very important.0
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Well, part of the issue lies with "pick an activity you like to do". MANY people, who aren't used to exercising on a regular basis, can't imagine liking ANY of them. So, why not ask for the advantages and disadvantages of one exercise over another? Really, if it bugs you, then don't reply.
Go try them- you won't ever know unless you do.
Asking if running/CF/Boxing/Lifting/etcetc is right for you is asking if you're going to like sushi from a mixed group of people. It's just completely nonsensical.
Much like sushi-for example running- go try it- go with a friend who can guide you through the basics- and get you started.
Give it an honest shot- then make the assessment- we cant' do EVERYTHING for you.0 -
Well, part of the issue lies with "pick an activity you like to do". MANY people, who aren't used to exercising on a regular basis, can't imagine liking ANY of them. So, why not ask for the advantages and disadvantages of one exercise over another? Really, if it bugs you, then don't reply.
BINGO. Why isn't that part so obvious? :huh:0 -
Lasmartchika wrote: »Well, part of the issue lies with "pick an activity you like to do". MANY people, who aren't used to exercising on a regular basis, can't imagine liking ANY of them. So, why not ask for the advantages and disadvantages of one exercise over another? Really, if it bugs you, then don't reply.
BINGO. Why isn't that part so obvious? :huh:
it's that it's a constant thing, these "What is better?" posts. it becomes hard to ignore after a while.
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Urgh... Cardio vs Lifting. Walking vs Running. Martial Art A vs Martial Art B. Godzilla vs King Kong...
When will the chain of stupid ever be broken? (Answer: probably never).
Just pick an activity you like to do. Apply yourself properly and do it correctly and progressively so you gain from it and grow as a person (a novel concept, I'm sure).
C'mon, it can't be THAT hard, can it?!
C'mon - Godzilla hands down
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Lasmartchika wrote: »Well, part of the issue lies with "pick an activity you like to do". MANY people, who aren't used to exercising on a regular basis, can't imagine liking ANY of them. So, why not ask for the advantages and disadvantages of one exercise over another? Really, if it bugs you, then don't reply.
BINGO. Why isn't that part so obvious? :huh:
When it's pretty much every second post it's a bit dull.
One day last week there were four Cardio vs Lifting posts in sequence on the front page of the forum.0 -
MrCoolGrim wrote: »C'mon - Godzilla hands down
Thanks for the morning laugh. Awesome!
I'm not sure why there's so much debate over what's better. I would speculate that part of it is because many people are just caught-up on weight loss and forget that it's really their nutrition that will drive their weight loss and exercise to a lesser degree. I think if more people understood that and set some kind of physical goal (faster mile speed, strength goals, run 5K in "x" time, etc) then there would be less questions like these and the questions would be more specific to improving in those areas.0 -
What wrong with efficiency? Wanting to know the best ways to do things?
Every job got a right tool to use. Would you use a tool that takes double of triple to time to do the same work as another tool?0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »What wrong with efficiency? Wanting to know the best ways to do things?
Every job got a right tool to use. Would you use a tool that takes double of triple to time to do the same work as another tool?
It totally depends on the goal and exact outcome. Sometimes it is better to take the long way than the shortcut and sometimes it's not. Quality should be #1 followed by time-efficiency.
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Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »What wrong with efficiency? Wanting to know the best ways to do things?
Every job got a right tool to use. Would you use a tool that takes double of triple to time to do the same work as another tool?
It totally depends on the goal and exact outcome. Sometimes it is better to take the long way than the shortcut and sometimes it's not. Quality should be #1 followed by time-efficiency.
So if quality is more important the right type of exercise will always be asked to get to certain goal?0 -
I dont think it will ever be broken. Just human nature i supose! Just look at all the juicing threads. Its mind boggling. The same thing over and over again.
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Capt_Apollo wrote: »i can understand people wanting to bypass the whole trial and error phase that many have to go through before finding something that they like and that they'll stick to.
personally, i went through a few things before i figured out that triathlon was my thing. i tried crossfit, olympic lifting, body weight, and martial arts before i decided that swimming, cycling, and running was my going to be my thing.
I understand wanting to bypass the whole trial and error phase too...but at the same time, that process is where people are actually going to grow the most as an individual. Discovering things about yourself is just awesome...and I think that process is also important in developing fitness goals that go beyond just "gotta go do some exercise 'cuz good for me."...I think that process is where people really discover the numerous other benefits to fitness beyond just burning some calories and whatnot.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »What wrong with efficiency? Wanting to know the best ways to do things?
Every job got a right tool to use. Would you use a tool that takes double of triple to time to do the same work as another tool?
It totally depends on the goal and exact outcome. Sometimes it is better to take the long way than the shortcut and sometimes it's not. Quality should be #1 followed by time-efficiency.
So if quality is more important the right type of exercise will always be asked to get to certain goal?
I'm not sure if I understand your question.0 -
MrCoolGrim wrote: »I dont think it will ever be broken. Just human nature i supose! Just look at all the juicing threads. Its mind boggling. The same thing over and over again.
Every day is Groundhog Day at MFP.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Capt_Apollo wrote: »i can understand people wanting to bypass the whole trial and error phase that many have to go through before finding something that they like and that they'll stick to.
personally, i went through a few things before i figured out that triathlon was my thing. i tried crossfit, olympic lifting, body weight, and martial arts before i decided that swimming, cycling, and running was my going to be my thing.
I understand wanting to bypass the whole trial and error phase too...but at the same time, that process is where people are actually going to grow the most as an individual. Discovering things about yourself is just awesome...and I think that process is also important in developing fitness goals that go beyond just "gotta go do some exercise 'cuz good for me."...I think that process is where people really discover the numerous other benefits to fitness beyond just burning some calories and whatnot.
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Did someone say ground hog?
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....but...but... if I finally make a decision and settle on an exercise I'll be expected to actually exercise.
If I continue to waffle forever and ever I can say that I'm actively working on my health and never step off my couch and away from my Doritos.0 -
Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »What wrong with efficiency? Wanting to know the best ways to do things?
Every job got a right tool to use. Would you use a tool that takes double of triple to time to do the same work as another tool?
It totally depends on the goal and exact outcome. Sometimes it is better to take the long way than the shortcut and sometimes it's not. Quality should be #1 followed by time-efficiency.
So if quality is more important the right type of exercise will always be asked to get to certain goal?
I'm not sure if I understand your question.
Like for example the lose weight category and why they should weight train because there a lot of threads on this one.
We know how to lose weight. Calorie deficit. Weight training falls in the quality category for this goal over cardio right?
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I understand that mentality but only under specific circumstances.
When I train lifters I have them pick a goal, a very, very specific goal, and put together a training program that will help them to achieve that very, very specific goal. In this context, one way IS inherently better than another; one would not go jogging if they want a big bench press. However, I realize that on these forums that is seldom the case.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »What wrong with efficiency? Wanting to know the best ways to do things?
Every job got a right tool to use. Would you use a tool that takes double of triple to time to do the same work as another tool?
It totally depends on the goal and exact outcome. Sometimes it is better to take the long way than the shortcut and sometimes it's not. Quality should be #1 followed by time-efficiency.
So if quality is more important the right type of exercise will always be asked to get to certain goal?
I'm not sure if I understand your question.
Like for example the lose weight category and why they should weight train because there a lot of threads on this one.
We know how to lose weight. Calorie deficit. Weight training falls in the quality category for this goal over cardio right?
I think it is more the generic, "what's better...elliptical or recumbent bike?" kind of questions rather than, "why should I do X" or "what's the best way to increase my OH press?" or something like that...0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »What wrong with efficiency? Wanting to know the best ways to do things?
Every job got a right tool to use. Would you use a tool that takes double of triple to time to do the same work as another tool?
It totally depends on the goal and exact outcome. Sometimes it is better to take the long way than the shortcut and sometimes it's not. Quality should be #1 followed by time-efficiency.
So if quality is more important the right type of exercise will always be asked to get to certain goal?
I'm not sure if I understand your question.
Like for example the lose weight category and why they should weight train because there a lot of threads on this one.
We know how to lose weight. Calorie deficit. Weight training falls in the quality category for this goal over cardio right?
I think it is more the generic, "what's better...elliptical or recumbent bike?" kind of questions rather than, "why should I do X" or "what's the best way to increase my OH press?" or something like that...
cosign.
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