Tear me a new one,gained 8lbs despite diet and exercise, please help
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3400 calories yesterday, and lots of unweighted guesstimate entries.
Not seeing much of a mystery here....
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TimothyFish wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »I am going with inaccurate logging + no food scale for 1000.00 Alex....
Cosigned.
I know some people are resistant to the idea of weighing their intake, but it is soooo very effective in getting your portions correct.
Here's a video showing the difference between eyeballing and using a scale:
And here's another one where vismal is using spoons and such to measure and is measuring a packaged food:
When you purposefully lay out a table to hide calories and demonstrate how much difference there can be between weighing food and eyeballing it, of course there is going to be a large difference. Most people don't underestimate their calories by as much as the guy in the video did. The larger the meal, the more people underestimate. For smaller meals, people are pretty good at guessing. Weighing one's food is one way to handle the problem, but not having a food scale isn't necessarily going to cause someone to eat too much.
Please stop generalizing.
This person who started this thread is obviously having a problem.
You coming in here with your anti-food scale agenda isn't being helpful.
There was also the matter of the second video I posted. You didn't address that one, I noticed.
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »you eat to much
When you gain you eat to much calories
Now the cause can be not weighing your food
Here a small video in addition to the earlier posted video's
Short one showing only what a difference it makes for some peanut butter and oats So two kinds of foods that makes hundreds of difference by weighing on a food scale or measuring cups.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY
Just be more accurate in your logging!
I'm so glad you posted this one. I was looking and looking for it, but couldn't remember what it was called!
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Obviously it is not literally required to use a food scale to lose weight, but especially if you are going to the trouble to log your food, why not actually increase your accuracy?0
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isulo_kura wrote: »No one has mentioned the thyroid yet
because as well as MFP being able to build muscle at incredible rates it also has the highest rate of thyroid issues on the planet
Also I have noticed that for anyone 30-39, the 30's are when it gets harder to lose weight. Repeat for the 40's, 50's and 60's. Everyone struggling is just in that one decade where it's not as easy as it is for everyone else.
Oh and I'm happy to have learned today that pointing out when someone is incorrect is exactly the same as nailing them to a cross and letting them die in slow agony. I guess from now on I'll take my hammer wherever I go...
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lol I'm actually having the easiest time in my 30s because I took my head out of my tuckus.0
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girlviernes wrote: »lol I'm actually having the easiest time in my 30s because I took my head out of my tuckus.
And I'm finding it not so bad in my 40's since mostly I'm too tired to go out drinking. SO MANY LEFTOVER CALORIES.0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »I am going with inaccurate logging + no food scale for 1000.00 Alex....
Cosigned.
I know some people are resistant to the idea of weighing their intake, but it is soooo very effective in getting your portions correct.
Here's a video showing the difference between eyeballing and using a scale:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjKPIcI51lU
And here's another one where vismal is using spoons and such to measure and is measuring a packaged food:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5sovhvLAig
I LOVE both of these!0 -
girlviernes wrote: »lol I'm actually having the easiest time in my 30s because I took my head out of my tuckus.
And I'm finding it not so bad in my 40's since mostly I'm too tired to go out drinking. SO MANY LEFTOVER CALORIES.
Yay for fatigue!!0 -
Donuts, potato chips, pizza OH MY! You need to weigh/ measure everything! Try cutting out some of the crap, you take in alot of sodium! One day you were over by almost 2000 caloires, it only takes 3500 to equal 1 pound, and you were over a couple other days too, it adds up. Allow yourself a "cheat" once a week, not everyday!
Yeah I read the thread and looked at her diary, she's way over and inaccurate. Its amazing how people crucify you for suggesting a little clean eating. You don't have to be so exact with your measurements when your eating whole foods. Palm size serving of lean meat, one piece of fruit, handful of nuts. If measuring and weighing is too overwhelming this is an option
Oh please. A handful of nuts has more calories than my two pieces of bacon weighed out on the scale.0 -
Donuts, potato chips, pizza OH MY! You need to weigh/ measure everything! Try cutting out some of the crap, you take in alot of sodium! One day you were over by almost 2000 caloires, it only takes 3500 to equal 1 pound, and you were over a couple other days too, it adds up. Allow yourself a "cheat" once a week, not everyday!
Yeah I read the thread and looked at her diary, she's way over and inaccurate. Its amazing how people crucify you for suggesting a little clean eating. You don't have to be so exact with your measurements when your eating whole foods. Palm size serving of lean meat, one piece of fruit, handful of nuts. If measuring and weighing is too overwhelming this is an option
Oh please. A handful of nuts has more calories than my two pieces of bacon weighed out on the scale.0 -
I remember my 20s when I'd "watch" what I ate, changed to "lite" beer, worked out 20min a day, and lost 89lbs in a year.
Now it's complicated weighing, measuring, logging, and macro this and micro that. *kitten* I know it's worth it but damn it's so much harder than I ever thought0 -
sciencenovice wrote: »I remember my 20s when I'd "watch" what I ate, changed to "lite" beer, worked out 20min a day, and lost 89lbs in a year.
Now it's complicated weighing, measuring, logging, and macro this and micro that. *kitten* I know it's worth it but damn it's so much harder than I ever thought
I don't think that is a typical experience (losing close to 100 lbs with very minor changes). Welcome to the club of most people who have to really pay attention.0 -
I've lost weight in my 20s and 30s and don't feel that there is any difference. Today I have an easy app for logging calories instead of slate, chalk, and an abacus. But other than that it's the same.0
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Donuts, potato chips, pizza OH MY! You need to weigh/ measure everything! Try cutting out some of the crap, you take in alot of sodium! One day you were over by almost 2000 caloires, it only takes 3500 to equal 1 pound, and you were over a couple other days too, it adds up. Allow yourself a "cheat" once a week, not everyday!
*sigh* ..eating "crap" has nothing to do with it. It is the fact that the logging is not accurate and non use of a food scale.
You can eat donuts and what not, be in a deficit, and still lose weight.
Well since eating crap at a deficit isn't working for her..... For me if I eat junk I don't lose weight, I feel bloated and my performance suffers in my workouts. When I eat good healthy food my body responds much better to my efforts. That's all I'm saying!
OP is no where near a deficit.
Please list some healthy and unhealthy food and the reason that each said food is either healthy or unhealthy ...0 -
arditarose wrote: »Donuts, potato chips, pizza OH MY! You need to weigh/ measure everything! Try cutting out some of the crap, you take in alot of sodium! One day you were over by almost 2000 caloires, it only takes 3500 to equal 1 pound, and you were over a couple other days too, it adds up. Allow yourself a "cheat" once a week, not everyday!
Yeah I read the thread and looked at her diary, she's way over and inaccurate. Its amazing how people crucify you for suggesting a little clean eating. You don't have to be so exact with your measurements when your eating whole foods. Palm size serving of lean meat, one piece of fruit, handful of nuts. If measuring and weighing is too overwhelming this is an option
Oh please. A handful of nuts has more calories than my two pieces of bacon weighed out on the scale.
The idea that a handful of nuts is a good snack is so misleading. I can have all of about 12 almonds for that. It sometimes does the trick but not always.
For 30 more calories I can eat an english muffin with a scrambled egg, cheese & turkey sausage. So much more bang for my buck there.
ETA:I've lost weight in my 20s and 30s and don't feel that there is any difference. Today I have an easy app for logging calories instead of slate, chalk, and an abacus. But other than that it's the same.
lol!
~Lyssa
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I love my fatty nuts, but yes, measuring is required.0
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macgurlnet wrote: »arditarose wrote: »Donuts, potato chips, pizza OH MY! You need to weigh/ measure everything! Try cutting out some of the crap, you take in alot of sodium! One day you were over by almost 2000 caloires, it only takes 3500 to equal 1 pound, and you were over a couple other days too, it adds up. Allow yourself a "cheat" once a week, not everyday!
Yeah I read the thread and looked at her diary, she's way over and inaccurate. Its amazing how people crucify you for suggesting a little clean eating. You don't have to be so exact with your measurements when your eating whole foods. Palm size serving of lean meat, one piece of fruit, handful of nuts. If measuring and weighing is too overwhelming this is an option
Oh please. A handful of nuts has more calories than my two pieces of bacon weighed out on the scale.
The idea that a handful of nuts is a good snack is so misleading. I can have all of about 12 almonds for that. It sometimes does the trick but not always.
For 30 more calories I can eat an english muffin with a scrambled egg, cheese & turkey sausage. So much more bang for my buck there.
~Lyssa
Agreed. Nuts have their place but are not a low calorie snack. At least for people like me who prefer volume.0 -
arditarose wrote: »macgurlnet wrote: »arditarose wrote: »Donuts, potato chips, pizza OH MY! You need to weigh/ measure everything! Try cutting out some of the crap, you take in alot of sodium! One day you were over by almost 2000 caloires, it only takes 3500 to equal 1 pound, and you were over a couple other days too, it adds up. Allow yourself a "cheat" once a week, not everyday!
Yeah I read the thread and looked at her diary, she's way over and inaccurate. Its amazing how people crucify you for suggesting a little clean eating. You don't have to be so exact with your measurements when your eating whole foods. Palm size serving of lean meat, one piece of fruit, handful of nuts. If measuring and weighing is too overwhelming this is an option
Oh please. A handful of nuts has more calories than my two pieces of bacon weighed out on the scale.
The idea that a handful of nuts is a good snack is so misleading. I can have all of about 12 almonds for that. It sometimes does the trick but not always.
For 30 more calories I can eat an english muffin with a scrambled egg, cheese & turkey sausage. So much more bang for my buck there.
~Lyssa
Agreed. Nuts have their place but are not a low calorie snack. At least for people like me who prefer volume.
30 grams of pistachios seriously fills me up. I eat them slowly and relish every one.0 -
I'm not buying the age excuseI've lost weight in my 20s and 30s and don't feel that there is any difference. Today I have an easy app for logging calories instead of slate, chalk, and an abacus. But other than that it's the same.
Agreed. I think the age thing is an excuse. ESPECIALLY if you're only in your 30s.
I'm 50. Should I just not even bother now?
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booksandchocolate12 wrote: »I'm not buying the age excuseI've lost weight in my 20s and 30s and don't feel that there is any difference. Today I have an easy app for logging calories instead of slate, chalk, and an abacus. But other than that it's the same.
Agreed. I think the age thing is an excuse. ESPECIALLY if you're only in your 30s.
I'm 50. Should I just not even bother now?
I don't know.... I stayed the same weight my whole adult life, I put on alot of weight with both my pregnancies in my early twenties, and the weight dropped off quickly and easily without me having to "diet" after my kids were born.
Then I hit 40 and everything changed
.This is first time that I've ever had to think about calories, exercise and what foods I should or should not eat.
What was effortless then, now requires work and effort blaaaahhh
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christinev297 wrote: »booksandchocolate12 wrote: »I'm not buying the age excuseI've lost weight in my 20s and 30s and don't feel that there is any difference. Today I have an easy app for logging calories instead of slate, chalk, and an abacus. But other than that it's the same.
Agreed. I think the age thing is an excuse. ESPECIALLY if you're only in your 30s.
I'm 50. Should I just not even bother now?
I don't know.... I stayed the same weight my whole adult life, I put on alot of weight with both my pregnancies in my early twenties, and the weight dropped off quickly and easily without me having to "diet" after my kids were born.
Then I hit 40 and everything changed .This is first time that I've ever had to think about calories, exercise and what foods I should or should not eat.
What was effortless then, now requires work and effort blaaaahhh
But I have to wonder, were you more active then?0 -
arditarose wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »booksandchocolate12 wrote: »I'm not buying the age excuseI've lost weight in my 20s and 30s and don't feel that there is any difference. Today I have an easy app for logging calories instead of slate, chalk, and an abacus. But other than that it's the same.
Agreed. I think the age thing is an excuse. ESPECIALLY if you're only in your 30s.
I'm 50. Should I just not even bother now?
I don't know.... I stayed the same weight my whole adult life, I put on alot of weight with both my pregnancies in my early twenties, and the weight dropped off quickly and easily without me having to "diet" after my kids were born.
Then I hit 40 and everything changed .This is first time that I've ever had to think about calories, exercise and what foods I should or should not eat.
What was effortless then, now requires work and effort blaaaahhh
But I have to wonder, were you more active then?
I've thought about that too, and the answer is no. I've always been sedentary. I'm more active now then I was then.
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I've always, always been a homebody. I only leave the house if I absolutely have to lol0
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christinev297 wrote: »arditarose wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »booksandchocolate12 wrote: »I'm not buying the age excuseI've lost weight in my 20s and 30s and don't feel that there is any difference. Today I have an easy app for logging calories instead of slate, chalk, and an abacus. But other than that it's the same.
Agreed. I think the age thing is an excuse. ESPECIALLY if you're only in your 30s.
I'm 50. Should I just not even bother now?
I don't know.... I stayed the same weight my whole adult life, I put on alot of weight with both my pregnancies in my early twenties, and the weight dropped off quickly and easily without me having to "diet" after my kids were born.
Then I hit 40 and everything changed .This is first time that I've ever had to think about calories, exercise and what foods I should or should not eat.
What was effortless then, now requires work and effort blaaaahhh
But I have to wonder, were you more active then?
I've thought about that too, and the answer is no. I've always been sedentary. I'm more active now then I was then.
Ah okay. Just curious.0 -
If your TDEE is 2270 and your trying to only eat 1470, your starving yourself! By trying to hold your calories to an 800 daily caloric deficit, you are sending a signal to your body that you need to start storing more fat! Two suggestions: First, try increasing your target to 2000 calories. That should net about 1/2 pound weight loss each week (an 1800 caloric target will get you a pound/week --- don't go for less than that). Remember you did not gain your weight in one month, don't try to lose it that way. Many people think that if they just keep cutting back on calories, weight loss will automatically follow. Not true, as you are seeing. The human body is a finely tuned machine that has evolved to KEEP YOU ALIVE. If it thinks you are in danger of starving, then it will do everything it can to prevent said starvation. That includes sending you never ending signals to eat more (and usually foods that will put on the weight). It will slow your metabolism to keep you from losing weight too quickly. It will scavenge your muscle mass and turn that muscle into FAT. So I doubt you are gaining muscle mass, my guess is that even with all the exercising you are doing you are probably losing muscle mass (plus you are not eating enough protein to really put on muscle mass).
Second,balance out your macro nutrients (Carbohydrates, Fats, and Protein). I use 50% Carbohydrates, 20% Fat, and 30% Protein as my personal target. You should find something that works for you. It looks like you are currently running at 65% Carbs, 20% Fat and 15% Protein. Fat is Ok, but double your protein and cut back on carbs (Pizza, Beer, etc)0 -
I didn't read any responses yet, but I'm sure others have told you that you are eating more than you realize. I notice quick added calories, generic entries, and some plain old inaccurate entries. Also, you go over calories often which can add up.sciencenovice wrote: »i started really getting serious about MFP and working out on April 6. I've lost a lot of weight before, but I'm not sure if it because I'm in my thirties now or what but I just can't drop any weight.
Anyway, I started logging everything, even my cheat days. Which was eye opening! After a week of deficit and working out I'd actually eat an entire pounds worth of calories in one day! Negating the entire 6 days. So I reigned that mess in and just stuck within maintenance of cheats were to come up. That's been just over 2 weeks.
I also had a calculated TDEE of 2270 and put my calorie goal at 1470. I workout 5 days a week and try not to eat back my calories. If I do eat back my calories, its about 100-200 calories over 1470, and not everyday.
No, I don't have a scale, though I measure and portion almost all of my food. Plus I try to add a bigger size or 10% more calories to what I'm unsure of. I feel like it's better to over shoot calories than under.
I think my diary is open, so you can see sometimes I sneak chips or ice cream in if my calories allow it. I know I haven't been perfect, but I don't know how it's *kitten* possible I gained almost 10lbs in a month!!! My clothes are not fitting any better. My only improvement is muscle definition in my arms. I Jazzercise, kickbox, and do interval strength training about 50 minutes at day. Sometimes more sometimes less.
Please tell me how I can possibly have *kitten* up this bad??? I mean I never gained this much not trying!
I know I have to live off celery and egg whites and workout three hours a day to really make it work but I was hoping for a conservative sustainable way of life. And yesterday's entry was my *kitten* it all to hell in eating 8lbs I beer and pizza because it doesn't matter anyway.
Go buy yourself a food scale and start accurately calculating your intake and stay at your calorie goals and you will lose weight.
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This is hopeful but doubtful.rosiebenfield213 wrote: »If you're doing that much exercise it could be that you're gaining muscle mass, which of course weighs a lot more than fat and can make your clothes uncomfortable if it is coupled with a slight increase in fat. You seem to have quite a carb and sugar rich diet so most likely a mixture of the two?
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eacupp2101 wrote: »you meontioned having noticed musscle definition and working out your weight could be muscle...also drink tons of water to help flush out your body it gets rid of a lot of stuff you dont need in its self...good job deciding to stick to my fitness pal
Hopeful but doubtful.
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