Tear me a new one,gained 8lbs despite diet and exercise, please help

SLLRunner

atypicalsmith wrote: »

arditarose wrote: »

macgurlnet wrote: »

arditarose wrote: »

acollis1 wrote: »

acollis1 wrote: »

Donuts, potato chips, pizza OH MY! You need to weigh/ measure everything! Try cutting out some of the crap, you take in alot of sodium! One day you were over by almost 2000 caloires, it only takes 3500 to equal 1 pound, and you were over a couple other days too, it adds up. Allow yourself a "cheat" once a week, not everyday!

Yeah I read the thread and looked at her diary, she's way over and inaccurate. Its amazing how people crucify you for suggesting a little clean eating. You don't have to be so exact with your measurements when your eating whole foods. Palm size serving of lean meat, one piece of fruit, handful of nuts. If measuring and weighing is too overwhelming this is an option

Oh please. A handful of nuts has more calories than my two pieces of bacon weighed out on the scale.

The idea that a handful of nuts is a good snack is so misleading. I can have all of about 12 almonds for that. It sometimes does the trick but not always.

For 30 more calories I can eat an english muffin with a scrambled egg, cheese & turkey sausage. So much more bang for my buck there.

~Lyssa

Agreed. Nuts have their place but are not a low calorie snack. At least for people like me who prefer volume.

30 grams of pistachios seriously fills me up. I eat them slowly and relish every one.

pistachios are so good!

MercuryBlue

I'm super tired and haven't read all the replies so if I'm repeating... well, no, I won't apologize. I'll just be adding my voice to the chorus.

First off: I see sodium intake is a little on the high side. I don't see a lot of fluid tracking- but I DO see a lot of liquid calories. So one of the first changes I'd make is drinking more water, black coffee and tea, etc. and not consuming quite as much sodium every day.

Secondly: You mentioned you're doing a lot of working out, enough that you're seeing muscle definition. As I understand it, if you're exercising a lot and not consuming enough fluids, your body is going to retain water like crazy. I've had period where I started working out like crazy (after having not done it in a while) and saw basically no change in the scale for WEEKS. Once the "shock" of the exercise wore off- assuming my fluid intake was where it should be- I'd see a very sudden (and sizable) weight loss.

So basically, I'd surmise that a lot (but not all!!!) of what you're dealing with is water retention.

I'd also have to echo what a lot of people here have already said, and that is: Get a scale, and accurately measure your food. It's entirely likely that your food diaries aren't accurate. On top of it, I'm of the opinion that you could be making dietary choices that are a bit more balanced. Specifically, I'm talking less fat and salt, more protein and (good) carbs. Especially more protein. Like I said before, I think water retention might be part of the problem; however, I also think that eating too much is also to blame.

Sued0nim

MercuryBlue wrote: »

I'm super tired and haven't read all the replies so if I'm repeating... well, no, I won't apologize. I'll just be adding my voice to the chorus.

First off: I see sodium intake is a little on the high side. I don't see a lot of fluid tracking- but I DO see a lot of liquid calories. So one of the first changes I'd make is drinking more water, black coffee and tea, etc. and not consuming quite as much sodium every day.

Secondly: You mentioned you're doing a lot of working out, enough that you're seeing muscle definition. As I understand it, if you're exercising a lot and not consuming enough fluids, your body is going to retain water like crazy. I've had period where I started working out like crazy (after having not done it in a while) and saw basically no change in the scale for WEEKS. Once the "shock" of the exercise wore off- assuming my fluid intake was where it should be- I'd see a very sudden (and sizable) weight loss.

So basically, I'd surmise that a lot (but not all!!!) of what you're dealing with is water retention.

I'd also have to echo what a lot of people here have already said, and that is: Get a scale, and accurately measure your food. It's entirely likely that your food diaries aren't accurate. On top of it, I'm of the opinion that you could be making dietary choices that are a bit more balanced. Specifically, I'm talking less fat and salt, more protein and (good) carbs. Especially more protein. Like I said before, I think water retention might be part of the problem; however, I also think that eating too much is also to blame.

Whilst you make decent points (apart from the good carbs / less fat comments) - OP is dealing with innaccurate logging and eating over maintenance

snowflake954

booksandchocolate12 wrote: »

I'm not buying the age excuse

jemhh wrote: »

I've lost weight in my 20s and 30s and don't feel that there is any difference. Today I have an easy app for logging calories instead of slate, chalk, and an abacus. But other than that it's the same.

Agreed. I think the age thing is an excuse. ESPECIALLY if you're only in your 30s.

I'm 50. Should I just not even bother now?

I'm 60----guess I should just die. Losing weight depends on your mindset. If you decide you're going to do it, you will. No excuses.

stevencloser

ndj1979 wrote: »

snowflake954 wrote: »

I think someone "qualified" needs to start a "muscle thread". The newbs seem to be confused as to how one acquires muscle. Hint---it's hard, and doesn't happen by accident.

I started one a while back .....it got about 30 pages deep before dying out...

A locked thread as an announcement on the top of the forum that just says in big red letters "No, you did not gain 10 pounds of muscles from jogging while eating 1200 calories." would suffice.

stevencloser

rwillems wrote: »

If your TDEE is 2270 and your trying to only eat 1470, your starving yourself! By trying to hold your calories to an 800 daily caloric deficit, you are sending a signal to your body that you need to start storing more fat! Two suggestions: First, try increasing your target to 2000 calories. That should net about 1/2 pound weight loss each week (an 1800 caloric target will get you a pound/week --- don't go for less than that). Remember you did not gain your weight in one month, don't try to lose it that way. Many people think that if they just keep cutting back on calories, weight loss will automatically follow. Not true, as you are seeing. The human body is a finely tuned machine that has evolved to KEEP YOU ALIVE. If it thinks you are in danger of starving, then it will do everything it can to prevent said starvation. That includes sending you never ending signals to eat more (and usually foods that will put on the weight). It will slow your metabolism to keep you from losing weight too quickly. It will scavenge your muscle mass and turn that muscle into FAT. So I doubt you are gaining muscle mass, my guess is that even with all the exercising you are doing you are probably losing muscle mass (plus you are not eating enough protein to really put on muscle mass).

Second,balance out your macro nutrients (Carbohydrates, Fats, and Protein). I use 50% Carbohydrates, 20% Fat, and 30% Protein as my personal target. You should find something that works for you. It looks like you are currently running at 65% Carbs, 20% Fat and 15% Protein. Fat is Ok, but double your protein and cut back on carbs (Pizza, Beer, etc)

Holy broscience, Batman!

An 800 calorie deficit is not starving.
KEEPING YOU ALIVE is BURNING YOUR FATSTORES first and foremost, only then will your body start by burning muscle that is not being used as much and only when there's basically no fat left will the rest of your muscles and organs be used. Because you know, that's the stuff that KEEPS YOU ALIVE.
And it doesn't turn muscle into FAT either, that's not how anything works.
And only after a long sustained large deficit does your body lower your metabolism by a bit and that is a slow reduction. (Hint: Not by enough or fast enough so you'd gain weight on what was a 800 calorie deficit just a few weeks earlier).