I'm pretty good with nutrition.
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Add yo boy if you would like to share nutrition tips .
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Lol where do I begin. What info are you looking for . What's you goal .What are having trouble with .0
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thanks, but I don't want anybody's tip. If I'm gonna take it, it better be the whole damn thing.
I have an idea, lets start a nutritional pop-quiz for yo boy, see what level of guru status can be achieved! I'll start.
What is currently considered to be the maximum efficacious daily amount of protein for a non-obese individual who is resistance training?0 -
Depends on your goal but I would say 1 gram per body weight . In general.0
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I don't agree with maximum because of kidney damage. 0.8 is what research shows from studies to be efficient to maintain muscle. When cutting I use more protein and less carbs . Resisting training is geared more to cutting and not bulking . So I say 1 gram per body weight .0
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Well when bulking you lift heavy when cutting you try to keep your heart rate up .0
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So you're saying if I lift heavy whilst keeping my heart rate up, I'll build muscle and lose fat at the same time?!?!0
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So 2 grams is too much?I don't agree with maximum because of kidney damage. 0.8 is what research shows from studies to be efficient to maintain muscle. When cutting I use more protein and less carbs . Resisting training is geared more to cutting and not bulking . So I say 1 gram per body weight .
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Well no. You can't bulk unless there's a calorie surplus regardless of how heavy you lift. In fact you can lift heavy and still cut. Cutting has more to do with calorie deficit rather than keeping your heart rate up.Well when bulking you lift heavy when cutting you try to keep your heart rate up .
So when you mean pretty good with nutrition, does that mean you've read some bodybuilding magazines or that you actually have a background where you went to school for it?
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Impossible to lift heavy while cutting you have less carbs less fat in your diet there for you loss strength. Cutting is based on a high heart rate to lose those extra Lbs . That's why you step your cardio game up while cutting.0
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I don't agree with maximum because of kidney damage. 0.8 is what research shows from studies to be efficient to maintain muscle. When cutting I use more protein and less carbs . Resisting training is geared more to cutting and not bulking . So I say 1 gram per body weight .
I am one body weight, b/c I only have one body. So I should consume 1 gram of protein. Sweet. I can get one gram of protein from a smallish bunch of grapes.
Now, is that 1 gram for my body for my entire life, or is there some shorter period of time for which I should be consuming that 1 gram for my body.0 -
No you can only do one or the other . And I'm not talking about gaining 10 lbs when bulking I go from 180lbs to 210lbs or higher . I'm sure you can lose fat while gaining muscle but it will be on a small scale.0
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »I don't agree with maximum because of kidney damage. 0.8 is what research shows from studies to be efficient to maintain muscle. When cutting I use more protein and less carbs . Resisting training is geared more to cutting and not bulking . So I say 1 gram per Lbs body weight .
I am one body weight, b/c I only have one body. So I should consume 1 gram of protein. Sweet. I can get one gram of protein from a smallish bunch of grapes.
Now, is that 1 gram for my body for my entire life, or is there some shorter period of time for which I should be consuming that 1 gram for my body.
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Use adjusted body weight with an obese individual. I haven't seen anything over .8g/lb (of ABW in this case) to be beneficial, although I admit I haven't looked at obese studies in this scenario (if someone has, let me know). I would actually err on the side of less in case of kidney complications without a creatinine and BUN reading, just because obesity has many comorbidities and I'd rather had a slightly less effective dose of protein for muscle maintenance in a cut vs the possibility of furthering kidney damage. Depends on the person oc though. 20 yo no other diseases? Fine, .8g/lb ABW will work. 65yo with hypertension? Get a test, err on the side of caution
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Sorry I meant 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight .lynn_glenmont wrote: »I don't agree with maximum because of kidney damage. 0.8 is what research shows from studies to be efficient to maintain muscle. When cutting I use more protein and less carbs . Resisting training is geared more to cutting and not bulking . So I say 1 gram per Lbs body weight .
I am one body weight, b/c I only have one body. So I should consume 1 gram of protein. Sweet. I can get one gram of protein from a smallish bunch of grapes.
Now, is that 1 gram for my body for my entire life, or is there some shorter period of time for which I should be consuming that 1 gram for my body.
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Use adjusted body weight with an obese individual. I haven't seen anything over .8g/lb (of ABW in this case) to be beneficial, although I admit I haven't looked at obese studies in this scenario (if someone has, let me know). I would actually err on the side of less in case of kidney complications without a creatinine and BUN reading, just because obesity has many comorbidities and I'd rather had a slightly less effective dose of protein for muscle maintenance in a cut vs the possibility of furthering kidney damage. Depends on the person oc though. 20 yo no other diseases? Fine, .8g/lb ABW will work. 65yo with hypertension? Get a test, err on the side of caution
This is fun! I graduate with my masters in nutrition in 5 weeks. I chose the right career lol.
Can't argue with someone with a master in nutrition.0 -
Sorry I meant 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight .lynn_glenmont wrote: »I don't agree with maximum because of kidney damage. 0.8 is what research shows from studies to be efficient to maintain muscle. When cutting I use more protein and less carbs . Resisting training is geared more to cutting and not bulking . So I say 1 gram per Lbs body weight .
I am one body weight, b/c I only have one body. So I should consume 1 gram of protein. Sweet. I can get one gram of protein from a smallish bunch of grapes.
Now, is that 1 gram for my body for my entire life, or is there some shorter period of time for which I should be consuming that 1 gram for my body.
OK, thanks.
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One can't lift "maximal" poundages, but training heavy (relative to current strength level) while cutting is doable. Lifting "light" weights doesn't help to retain lean muscle better on a cut.Impossible to lift heavy while cutting you have less carbs less fat in your diet there for you loss strength.
Lol, that's why you see pro and amateur bodybuilders running sprints right? NOT. They are just walking along on a treadmill to help burn extra calories. Cutting is based more on CALORIE DEFICIT. One is consuming much much less calories than the offseason. One could do all the cardio in the world, but if there calorie deficit isn't good enough, they'll come in "fat" for a competition.Cutting is based on a high heart rate to lose those extra Lbs . That's why you step your cardio game up while cutting.
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There's a distinct whiff of lambs being taken to slaughter here.0
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Add yo boy if you would like to share nutrition tips .
How do you successfully make a triple decker Elvis sandwich (bread, peanut butter, bacon, banana, honey) whilst ensuring correct grillage of all three slices of bread and internal ingredients.
I have my 2 slice down, can't really go wrong grilling a 2 slice sandwich in a pan. But I struggle with the consistency of the centre bread slice compared to the outer two.
I was thinking pre grilling the centre slice, then making the triple decker up, then grilling the whole sandwich.
Also, nutritionally would you recommend smooth or crunchy in the above sandwich, or would you go all out and use an artisan niche nutbutter based on a banoffee pie or chocolate bourbon biscuit recipe?
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Russ, clearly you would have to grill the centre piece. You need the contrast in texture and an appropriate moisture barrier... you're not a savage!
Nutritionally speaking, I would go with a crunchy natural peanut butter, but maple flavoured PB would also be acceptable... nutritionally speaking...
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Impossible to lift heavy while cutting you have less carbs less fat in your diet there for you loss strength. Cutting is based on a high heart rate to lose those extra Lbs . That's why you step your cardio game up while cutting.
wait - so cutting has to do with the weight your lifting not the calories you're eating?
I'm so confused now- however will I reach my goals!0 -
How do you successfully make a triple decker Elvis sandwich (bread, peanut butter, bacon, banana, honey) whilst ensuring correct grillage of all three slices of bread and internal ingredients.
Yo, you gotta pulp that, son. You gotta put all your things there into a bowl and mush them up into a paste. Then you pour it into your pan like pancake batter and fry it up. 12% of the calories will be eliminated in the pulping process, and you gain space efficiency in the cooking process. BOOM.
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Time for pink dumbells Jo. You know you want them.Impossible to lift heavy while cutting you have less carbs less fat in your diet there for you loss strength. Cutting is based on a high heart rate to lose those extra Lbs . That's why you step your cardio game up while cutting.
wait - so cutting has to do with the weight your lifting not the calories you're eating?
I'm so confused now- however will I reach my goals!
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