2nd day without eating meat
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@bigblondewolf I have no intentions of picking fights with strangers on forums just making my points. I appreciate your feedback0
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@Ryanstwin Then I don't understand why you even feel the need to defend your choice to a bunch of internet strangers. If you didn't like the advice we were giving, then walk away. It's your own damn body, do what you want with it.0
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bigblondewolf wrote: »@Ryanstwin Then I don't understand why you even feel the need to defend your choice to a bunch of internet strangers. If you didn't like the advice we were giving, then walk away. It's your own damn body, do what you want with it.
How else will he feel superior about his dietary choices??-1 -
Mike Rashid power bodybuilder was a vegan for a good part of his adult life Doesn't look like he ever had any problems getting an adequate amount of protein without meat ....
That is the only point we are trying to make, is to pay attention to protein.
That said, this guy is probably also on gear. Apples to oranges0 -
bigblondewolf wrote: »@Ryanstwin Then I don't understand why you even feel the need to defend your choice to a bunch of internet strangers. If you didn't like the advice we were giving, then walk away. It's your own damn body, do what you want with it.
How else will he feel superior about his dietary choices??
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Wow, guys, this is kind of hostile to the OP, who really just wanted some support. @Ryanstwin, you're welcome to check out the "Vegetarians & Vegans" group and post in our forums about weight training--positive you'll get some helpful feedback.0
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@randomtai thanks for the feedback have a wonderful day0
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Wow, guys, this is kind of hostile to the OP, who really just wanted some support. @Ryanstwin, you're welcome to check out the "Vegetarians & Vegans" group and post in our forums about weight training--positive you'll get some helpful feedback.
Hostile? Really? Well, that's what we get for expressing concern, I guess.0 -
amberjo1986 wrote: »Lots of armchair nutritionists in here.....
Lulz...
Anyway....Posters come in and advise that you don't need cut meat in order to hit goals, but if you are make sure to supplement your protein intake.
OP and a few others take offence somewhere in the make sure to supplement your protein recommendation.
Did I cliff's that about right?0 -
Wow, guys, this is kind of hostile to the OP, who really just wanted some support. @Ryanstwin, you're welcome to check out the "Vegetarians & Vegans" group and post in our forums about weight training--positive you'll get some helpful feedback.
Were you going to include the OP's "hostility" shown while answering questions as well or is this just a one way street?
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@hollydubs85 I guess I picked the wrong forum to mention not eating meat lol . I guess I know how you tubers feel when they get trolled0
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@hollydubs85 I guess I picked the wrong forum to mention not eating meat lol . I guess I know how you tubers feel when they get trolled
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@hollydubs85 I guess I picked the wrong forum to mention not eating meat lol . I guess I know how you tubers feel when they get trolled
No one has trolled you or been "mean", We have been all saying the same thing. In order to hit your weight loss/fitness goal you don't need to cut meat, but if you do (and you came late with a different reason for doing so) just make sure you get enough protein.
No one thinks you need to eat meat, just watch your macros.0 -
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definitely I eat more meat when training, specifically bulking. If you are trying to gain lean body mass/strength don't worry about it. Enjoy it. If you are cutting then you might have to cut out some short ribs for a leaner cut. Figure out what you want to do. But meat fat does not = tummy fat0
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Good idea thanks for the input everyone
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@hollydubs85 I guess I picked the wrong forum to mention not eating meat lol . I guess I know how you tubers feel when they get trolled
Because people just advised you that cutting meat isn't necessary to meet your goal, but if you are to make sure you supplement your protein?
If you think people are "trolling" you, I don't think you quite understand what it means.0 -
Not a good reason to give up meat, imo, because meat doesn't cause belly fat.0
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definitely I eat more meat when training, specifically bulking. If you are trying to gain lean body mass/strength don't worry about it. Enjoy it. If you are cutting then you might have to cut out some short ribs for a leaner cut. Figure out what you want to do. But meat fat does not = tummy fat
Thanks for the advice my man
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Can you build a day in your diary where you get your goal of 178gs of protein?
I mean this in the nicest way, I'm just curious how. I struggle to hit my own protein goals, and I'm eating lean meat, so I really want to see how to max out the protein.
I will also happily take PMs from the vegan/vegetarian commentators here with a similar description of how to hit a goal like that.0 -
@Emillia77 not receptive just because I am not. Replying to every single comment ??
Your sentence doesn’t make sense, but I think I get it. I only meant that you seemed to ignore the particular comment questioning your characterization of a high-rep lifting routine as “heavy”, and appeared to endorse the banana diet thing.
What I wanted to get at is that you might be better served by a low-rep high-weight program. I’d recommend you look into it. Then again, you didn’t really ask for advice, so feel free to ignore this.
You can eat whatever, but I’d suggest you make sure you hit your macros. Best of luck.0 -
365andstillalive wrote: »Can you build a day in your diary where you get your goal of 178gs of protein?
I mean this in the nicest way, I'm just curious how. I struggle to hit my own protein goals, and I'm eating lean meat, so I really want to see how to max out the protein.
I will also happily take PMs from the vegan/vegetarian commentators here with a similar description of how to hit a goal like that.
I've just started yesterday I didn't hit my protein number but no sweat. I'm sure I will be able to.. But besides meat you can have oats.. Rice.. Beans vegetables.. Cottage cheese etc etc
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365andstillalive wrote: »Can you build a day in your diary where you get your goal of 178gs of protein?
I mean this in the nicest way, I'm just curious how. I struggle to hit my own protein goals, and I'm eating lean meat, so I really want to see how to max out the protein.
I will also happily take PMs from the vegan/vegetarian commentators here with a similar description of how to hit a goal like that.
8000 grams of spinach should do it.0 -
365andstillalive wrote: »Can you build a day in your diary where you get your goal of 178gs of protein?
I mean this in the nicest way, I'm just curious how. I struggle to hit my own protein goals, and I'm eating lean meat, so I really want to see how to max out the protein.
I will also happily take PMs from the vegan/vegetarian commentators here with a similar description of how to hit a goal like that.
I've just started yesterday I didn't hit my protein number but no sweat. I'm sure I will be able to.. But besides meat you can have oats.. Rice.. Beans vegetables.. Cottage cheese etc etc
If you're just cutting down on red meat and still open to still including fish, tilapia and mahi mahi are both super high in protein (and taste fan-freaking-tastic). Do it up with some quinoa and black beans and you've got a protein packed meal without any red meat.
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Not sure how eliminating meat is going to help you get stronger and lean out and lose belly fat...most people trying to lean out and get stronger do the exact opposite.
IMO, there's nothing wrong with going vegetarian, but you should have better reasons for doing so.0 -
I'm not weight training but I am a runner. In 10 days I'm doing my fourth marathon. The last time I had meat or dairy was November 2013. In fact, my wife and two teenage daughters are also vegans. Both of my daughters are competative swimmers (syncro and racing) who weight train year-round and all of us competed in triathlons last year. The oldest recently had a flu shot and when she rolled up her sleeve the nurse actually told her "Girl, you are ripped. Whatever you're doing, keep doing it.", lol.
The only time I seek any extra protein is during marathon training. Even then, it is just a glass of Hammer Vegan Protein after medium runs and two after long runs. The biggest advantage of a plant-based diet that I have found is fast recovery. Listen to interviews with just about any vegan athlete and you likely will hear the same answer. I was actually shocked the first time I started training for a marathon after eliminating animal-based food.
An easy way to get all of the essential amino acids at once is with a combination of grains and legumes. They actually don't have to be consumed in the same meal. A peanut butter sandwich has 14g of complete protein. Beans and rice is another good combination. Last night we had vegetables with peanut sauce on brown rice. There are a lot more good sources like quinoa and seitan but I honestly don't pay that much attention to it.
If you haven't yet, check out what guys like Patrik Baboumian, Tim Shieff and Frank Medrano are doing on a vegan diet. You might also find some helpful info at www.nomeatathlete.com, www.plantbuilt.com (vegan bodybuilders) or www.fuelforthefighter.com (vegan UFC fighters).0
best of luck though, 
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