2nd day without eating meat
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hollydubs85 wrote: »Wow, guys, this is kind of hostile to the OP, who really just wanted some support. @Ryanstwin, you're welcome to check out the "Vegetarians & Vegans" group and post in our forums about weight training--positive you'll get some helpful feedback.
Hostile? Really? Well, that's what we get for expressing concern, I guess.
People are seriously expressing concern about the man not eating meat every day? Because it sounds so extreme? I do nto know where you all live, but including daily meat in your diet is not the norm aroudn the world. Eating a variety of foods, including having meat-less days, is not a special restrictive diet, does not have a specific name, is not a weird lifestyle, it is how normal people around the world eat. Not for ethical reasons or because they are trying to adjust their macros or reach specific goals. Because it happens. Without getting ill, needing supplements or whatever. The obsession with protein some people have, it is just unreal. Eat all the meat, or take protein shakes or watch your muscle disappear. If this was how it worked, the human race woudl have been extinct a loooong time ago.
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hollydubs85 wrote: »Wow, guys, this is kind of hostile to the OP, who really just wanted some support. @Ryanstwin, you're welcome to check out the "Vegetarians & Vegans" group and post in our forums about weight training--positive you'll get some helpful feedback.
Hostile? Really? Well, that's what we get for expressing concern, I guess.
People are seriously expressing concern about the man not eating meat every day? Because it sounds so extreme? I do nto know where you all live, but including daily meat in your diet is not the norm aroudn the world. Eating a variety of foods, including having meat-less days, is not a special restrictive diet, does not have a specific name, is not a weird lifestyle, it is how normal people around the world eat. Not for ethical reasons or because they are trying to adjust their macros or reach specific goals. Because it happens. Without getting ill, needing supplements or whatever. The obsession with protein some people have, it is just unreal. Eat all the meat, or take protein shakes or watch your muscle disappear. If this was how it worked, the human race woudl have been extinct a loooong time ago.
It's not concern that he's not eating meat every day...it's that he thinks the elimination of meat is going to make him magically lean out or something. That is incorrect. I know lots of fat people who don't eat meat.
Also, no...your muscle won't just disappear if you're not eating meat...but if your goal is actually to put on muscle, a high protein intake is very beneficial for accomplishing that goal. The OP mentioned he wanted to get stronger which I assume means he wants to put on some mass...getting a lot of protein is a pretty integral part of achieving that particular goal.0 -
@cwolfman13 I'm well aware that not eating meat a few days out of the week won't give me abs magically or get me lean necessarily or make me stronger necessarily.. Because one method isn't better than the next I have been dieting for a while lifting weights as well.. Getting stronger doesn't mean I'm trying to bulk up yes I already know you need to get your proper macronutrients and plenty of protein when trying to build muscle. By me eating more fruits vegetables (micronutrients) which I have been greatly neglecting I'm hoping to have more energy therefore increase performance . I'm still eating eggs on my no meat days as well as making sure I hit my other numbers. I guess the way I worded the post and threw in strength gains and I dislike my abs made people think I was a clueless person I'm no expert but I seek knowledge on fitness and nutrition daily it's very interesting to me but thanks for your feedback.. Salute
And @aggelikik couldn't agree with you more thanks for the comment!0 -
But it doesn't make any sense.0
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Your opinion:-)kommodevaran wrote: »But it doesn't make any sense.
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Moving your bowels doesn't mean that your digestion has improved--really it's just the opposite. Moving your bowels means that there's more in your bowel for your body to move out of it. Those movements you're so proud of (and really? who brags about bowel movements outside of toilet training?) just mean that you've put a whole bunch of indigestible material into your gut, material that needs to be moved out in order to maintain digestive health.0
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If you don't have anything to add to the discussion and you have never went without eating meat.. just being critical and negative don't comment. It's simple don't say anything0
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Good luck. I was vegan for about 7 months last year. Gave it up when a family member got seriously sick and I was not able to get enough protein (I do not tolerate soy products at all). Besides being soy free I am also gluten free because of a thyroid disease (doctor told me to stop eating gluten because it can cause issues with my disease). I do admit I felt healthier while I was on that diet but it definitely was difficult and I did start noticing the effects of low protein. Be careful with this experiment and do your best to get the minimum amount of protein you can from other sources while in the non meat phase.0
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LoupGarouTFTs wrote: »Moving your bowels doesn't mean that your digestion has improved--really it's just the opposite. Moving your bowels means that there's more in your bowel for your body to move out of it. Those movements you're so proud of (and really? who brags about bowel movements outside of toilet training?) just mean that you've put a whole bunch of indigestible material into your gut, material that needs to be moved out in order to maintain digestive health.
Shut up
Wow.
No.
What I said is true. That's what roughage is all about, for Heaven's sake. You're not making your digestive system more efficient in terms of digesting nutrients. You're making it more efficient in terms of expelling waste. Human beings can't digest cellulose, so it goes, undigested, through our systems and aids in "cleaning out" other things that are there. A truly efficient digestive system, in terms of nutrients, makes use of all of (or the majority of) the foods being put into the system, absorbing as much food material as possible, and expelling small amounts over time. Unfortunately, this process tends to leave small, relatively hard stools, which can be difficult to expel. That is why our digestive systems require roughage. Kudos to you on getting the roughage you require. *shrugs*0 -
Good luck. I was vegan for about 7 months last year. Gave it up when a family member got seriously sick and I was not able to get enough protein (I do not tolerate soy products at all). Besides being soy free I am also gluten free because of a thyroid disease (doctor told me to stop eating gluten because it can cause issues with my disease). I do admit I felt healthier while I was on that diet but it definitely was difficult and I did start noticing the effects of low protein. Be careful with this experiment and do your best to get the minimum amount of protein you can from other sources while in the non meat phase.
Someone with actual PERSONAL experience with the subject at hand thank you for your feedback ! Still eating eggs on my no meat days.. Supplementing with protein shakes as well..
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Personally for better digestion and to become more overall healthy more so tho anything. Longevity avoid heart related problems extra weight etc.SoDamnHungry wrote: »Why are you cutting out meat though?
should probably read up more, i personally try to eat all of the meat i can. seems to be working as i'm down 90lbs. Cutting out meat is ignorant. Saying meat makes you gain weight is just crazy and you need so much protein if you're going to gain strength. Without meat, getting 200g of protein a day would just be binge drinking on protein shakes.
im eating meat as i type this ha.0 -
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Not a good reason to give up meat, imo, because meat doesn't cause belly fat.
That's where I just shook my head. If you are doing it just to try it out for fun or doing it for moral reasons, that's cool. But doing it because you think that cutting it out is going to make belly fat disappear is just :laugh:0 -
UltimateRBF wrote: »If OP wasn't clearly a dude as evidenced by his profile pic and username, I'd swear he was a 20 something female. When he referenced Freelee the Banana Nut I seriously had to go double check.
Yeah, meat's not bad for you nor is it fattening. If you want to cut down on it/stop eating it for moral reasons then that's OK but it's simply not correct to assume that eliminating or drastically reducing it will make you healthier.
Have you ever went vegan or vegetarian?
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Personally for better digestion and to become more overall healthy more so tho anything. Longevity avoid heart related problems extra weight etc.SoDamnHungry wrote: »Why are you cutting out meat though?
should probably read up more, i personally try to eat all of the meat i can. seems to be working as i'm down 90lbs. Cutting out meat is ignorant. Saying meat makes you gain weight is just crazy and you need so much protein if you're going to gain strength. Without meat, getting 200g of protein a day would just be binge drinking on protein shakes.
im eating meat as i type this ha.
Have you personally ever went without eating meat for a extended amount of time ?
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IF you have no experience eatingUltimateRBF wrote: »If OP wasn't clearly a dude as evidenced by his profile pic and username, I'd swear he was a 20 something female. When he referenced Freelee the Banana Nut I seriously had to go double check.
Yeah, meat's not bad for you nor is it fattening. If you want to cut down on it/stop eating it for moral reasons then that's OK but it's simply not correct to assume that eliminating or drastically reducing it will make you healthier.
And your profile pic is pikachu what do you know you're probably 12 years old not even old enough to go in a gym on your ownPikaKnight wrote: »Not a good reason to give up meat, imo, because meat doesn't cause belly fat.
That's where I just shook my head. If you are doing it just to try it out for fun or doing it for moral reasons, that's cool. But doing it because you think that cutting it out is going to make belly fat disappear is just :laugh:
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I'm cutting my notifications off for this thread I got 90% *kitten* responses from people criticizing my decision with no real knowledge nor experience on the subject of vegan or vegetarian style eating . Just a bunch of meat eaters telling me I'm stupid of giving up meat because they couldn't imagine ever doing it.. I'm out I will stick to talking to my friends reading books and YouTube videos anything better than the advice I got on here0
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UltimateRBF wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »If OP wasn't clearly a dude as evidenced by his profile pic and username, I'd swear he was a 20 something female. When he referenced Freelee the Banana Nut I seriously had to go double check.
Yeah, meat's not bad for you nor is it fattening. If you want to cut down on it/stop eating it for moral reasons then that's OK but it's simply not correct to assume that eliminating or drastically reducing it will make you healthier.
Have you ever went vegan or vegetarian?
How is that a relevant question?
But to play your game, no I haven't. I have considered vegetarianism on occasion, for ethical/financial reasons. NOT because of a misguided notion it will make me healthier or help with weight loss. I prefer to use science to aid in my decisions on that front.
So you have no real evidence that it doesn't work. Thanks .. You have never tried the vegan or vegetarian lifestyle so you don't know what the f you are talking about peace
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I've gone meatless for long periods of time. Sometimes I'd go completely plant based with no animal foods at all. Other times I'd include a little dairy and some eggs. Sometimes I'd take a flexitarian approach.
I didn't notice any noteworthy benefits. I currently emphasize real, whole foods, that includes lots of veggies and a fair amount of meat, fish, eggs, and dairy. I think I feel stronger and more energetic this way.
that said, I'm all for trying new things and if you want to try cutting down on meat and seeing how that works, go for it. I hear a lot of people say it improves the way they feel. That was not my experience, but it might be yours, and if it is, than I would keep moving further in that direction.
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what's up everyone thought I would try something new and cut out meat on the weekdays only allowing myself to eat it on my two days off work. Hoping to improve my strength with weight training and get leaner. My midsection fat is frustrating me. So I will give an update on my results at s later date. Also is anyone else who weight trains doing this chime in
Let us know how it turns out when you actually start restricting calories instead of randomly eliminating foods0 -
Congrats on deciding to go meat-free on week days
Fill up on fruits and veggies and eat plant based proteins like beans and lentils 0
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