Diet Pills
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Not all diet pills are a scam. My nan was prescribed them from the doctors and lost a lot of weight with them, but she said it messed with her bowels and she had to go to the toilet a lot so she stopped taking them.
That's great she stopped taking them.
However, I would say that prescribing pills that make you pee and/or poop a lot is a....
Scam.
Yeah, it's not exactly good for you!
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Not all diet pills are a scam. My nan was prescribed them from the doctors and lost a lot of weight with them, but she said it messed with her bowels and she had to go to the toilet a lot so she stopped taking them.
That's great she stopped taking them.
However, I would say that prescribing pills that make you pee and/or poop a lot is a....
Scam.
I'd say Orlistat (Alli/Xenical, etc) is not really a scam. It's not intended to make you poop, that's just a side effect of how it works if you don't change your fat intake.
I would say Orlistat is a result of clinical laziness on the part of doctors who don't have the means/ability/patience to coach patients in making lifestyle changes, and laziness of patients who just want a pill to make the fat go away. It came out of the idea that eating fat makes you fat, so if you can't absorb the fat you get leaner...and the pharmaceutical industry was more than happy to provide that pill.
I think, in limited clinical cases, Orlistat has some benefit, but it gets used more than is truly indicated. Making it available OTC was a big mistake.
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Not all diet pills are a scam. My nan was prescribed them from the doctors and lost a lot of weight with them, but she said it messed with her bowels and she had to go to the toilet a lot so she stopped taking them.
That's great she stopped taking them.
However, I would say that prescribing pills that make you pee and/or poop a lot is a....
Scam.
I'd say Orlistat (Alli/Xenical, etc) is not really a scam. It's not intended to make you poop, that's just a side effect of how it works if you don't change your fat intake.
I would say Orlistat is a result of clinical laziness on the part of doctors who don't have the means/ability/patience to coach patients in making lifestyle changes, and laziness of patients who just want a pill to make the fat go away. It came out of the idea that eating fat makes you fat, so if you can't absorb the fat you get leaner...and the pharmaceutical industry was more than happy to provide that pill.
I think, in limited clinical cases, Orlistat has some benefit, but it gets used more than is truly indicated. Making it available OTC was a big mistake.
Are those like the Alli pills? My sister tried them and um.... It didn't go well.0 -
Not all diet pills are a scam. My nan was prescribed them from the doctors and lost a lot of weight with them, but she said it messed with her bowels and she had to go to the toilet a lot so she stopped taking them.
That's great she stopped taking them.
However, I would say that prescribing pills that make you pee and/or poop a lot is a....
Scam.
I'd say Orlistat (Alli/Xenical, etc) is not really a scam. It's not intended to make you poop, that's just a side effect of how it works if you don't change your fat intake.
I would say Orlistat is a result of clinical laziness on the part of doctors who don't have the means/ability/patience to coach patients in making lifestyle changes, and laziness of patients who just want a pill to make the fat go away. It came out of the idea that eating fat makes you fat, so if you can't absorb the fat you get leaner...and the pharmaceutical industry was more than happy to provide that pill.
I think, in limited clinical cases, Orlistat has some benefit, but it gets used more than is truly indicated. Making it available OTC was a big mistake.
Are those like the Alli pills? My sister tried them and um.... It didn't go well.
Alli is the OTC form of Orlistat, I think it's around half the prescription dose.0 -
Not all diet pills are a scam. My nan was prescribed them from the doctors and lost a lot of weight with them, but she said it messed with her bowels and she had to go to the toilet a lot so she stopped taking them.
That's great she stopped taking them.
However, I would say that prescribing pills that make you pee and/or poop a lot is a....
Scam.
Eh, pooping a lot is a known side effect if you eat too much fat while taking drugs like Alli. I'd reserve "scam" for a product that makes a promise it cannot possibly deliver.
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Not all diet pills are a scam. My nan was prescribed them from the doctors and lost a lot of weight with them, but she said it messed with her bowels and she had to go to the toilet a lot so she stopped taking them.
That's great she stopped taking them.
However, I would say that prescribing pills that make you pee and/or poop a lot is a....
Scam.
I'd say Orlistat (Alli/Xenical, etc) is not really a scam. It's not intended to make you poop, that's just a side effect of how it works if you don't change your fat intake.
I would say Orlistat is a result of clinical laziness on the part of doctors who don't have the means/ability/patience to coach patients in making lifestyle changes, and laziness of patients who just want a pill to make the fat go away. It came out of the idea that eating fat makes you fat, so if you can't absorb the fat you get leaner...and the pharmaceutical industry was more than happy to provide that pill.
I think, in limited clinical cases, Orlistat has some benefit, but it gets used more than is truly indicated. Making it available OTC was a big mistake.
Are those like the Alli pills? My sister tried them and um.... It didn't go well.
Alli is the OTC form of Orlistat, I think it's around half the prescription dose.
Ahh makes sense. Thanks! (Don't worry I won't be taking them. Lol I don't believe in otc diet pills)0 -
The prescription form of Alli is double-strength? LMAO.
I can see how that wouldn't 'end' well.
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http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/in-depth/alli/art-20047908
What is Alli?
Alli is the reduced-strength, 60-milligram version of orlistat (Xenical), a 120-milligram prescription drug.
Xenical is approved for use by people who have a body mass index (BMI) of 30 or more (obese), as well as people with a BMI of 27 to 29 (overweight) who have other health risk factors such as high blood pressure or diabetes.
Alli is approved for over-the-counter sale — with some exceptions — to overweight adults 18 years and older. Both Alli and Xenical are meant to be used as part of a weight-loss plan that includes a low-calorie, low-fat diet and regular physical activity.
What are the concerns with Alli?
In 2010, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a safety review of orlistat because of rare reports of serious liver injury in people using it. The FDA found no evidence to confirm that orlistat was the cause of the reported liver injuries.
However, Alli and Xenical labels were revised because of the reports. Talk to your doctor immediately if you have signs or symptoms that may indicate liver injury:
Itching
Loss of appetite
Yellow eyes or skin
Light-colored stool
Brown urine
How does Alli work?
Alli promotes weight loss by decreasing the amount of dietary fat absorbed in your intestines.
Lipase, an enzyme found in the digestive tract, helps break down dietary fat into smaller components, so it can be used or stored for energy. Alli inhibits the work of lipase. When you take the drug with a meal, about 30 percent of the fat you consume isn't broken down and is eliminated through bowel movements.
How much weight could I lose using Alli?
Alli may help you lose weight, but the weight loss will likely be modest — perhaps just a few pounds more than you would lose with diet and exercise alone.0 -
Not all diet pills are a scam. My nan was prescribed them from the doctors and lost a lot of weight with them, but she said it messed with her bowels and she had to go to the toilet a lot so she stopped taking them.
That sounds something like Orlistat, which inhibits lipase so the body does not absorb fat from food as much. The problem with that is you REALLY need to cut back on eating fatty food because that fat stays in the bowels and you get loose stools.
Anyone who remembers Olestra, a lot of people who tried chips containing that had similar issues because the Olestra fat was not absorbed and stayed in the gut.
Orlistat can be effective for some people, but I'd prefer to stick to CICO and keep my skivvies track free.
Doctor prescribed them to me in England a few years back. I was so sick of going to the loo to poo so much I flushed them down the loo. CICO is the way to go, at least you not sitting on the loo every minute.0 -
Diet pills scare the crap out of me. I've read article where some people died because of it.0
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kshama2001 wrote: »Not all diet pills are a scam. My nan was prescribed them from the doctors and lost a lot of weight with them, but she said it messed with her bowels and she had to go to the toilet a lot so she stopped taking them.
That's great she stopped taking them.
However, I would say that prescribing pills that make you pee and/or poop a lot is a....
Scam.
Eh, pooping a lot is a known side effect if you eat too much fat while taking drugs like Alli. I'd reserve "scam" for a product that makes a promise it cannot possibly deliver.
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kshama2001 wrote: »http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/in-depth/alli/art-20047908
What is Alli?
Alli is the reduced-strength, 60-milligram version of orlistat (Xenical), a 120-milligram prescription drug.
Xenical is approved for use by people who have a body mass index (BMI) of 30 or more (obese), as well as people with a BMI of 27 to 29 (overweight) who have other health risk factors such as high blood pressure or diabetes.
Alli is approved for over-the-counter sale — with some exceptions — to overweight adults 18 years and older. Both Alli and Xenical are meant to be used as part of a weight-loss plan that includes a low-calorie, low-fat diet and regular physical activity.
What are the concerns with Alli?
In 2010, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a safety review of orlistat because of rare reports of serious liver injury in people using it. The FDA found no evidence to confirm that orlistat was the cause of the reported liver injuries.
However, Alli and Xenical labels were revised because of the reports. Talk to your doctor immediately if you have signs or symptoms that may indicate liver injury:
Itching
Loss of appetite
Yellow eyes or skin
Light-colored stool
Brown urine
How does Alli work?
Alli promotes weight loss by decreasing the amount of dietary fat absorbed in your intestines.
Lipase, an enzyme found in the digestive tract, helps break down dietary fat into smaller components, so it can be used or stored for energy. Alli inhibits the work of lipase. When you take the drug with a meal, about 30 percent of the fat you consume isn't broken down and is eliminated through bowel movements.
How much weight could I lose using Alli?
Alli may help you lose weight, but the weight loss will likely be modest — perhaps just a few pounds more than you would lose with diet and exercise alone.
Really? You are promoting Alli?0 -
HeySwoleSister wrote: »I keep reading the manufacturer name as "Creative Broscience."
This amuses me.
Oh my goodness... The whole time reading the thread I thought it said that too! Until you said this. I had to go back and re read it!Anyone who remembers Olestra, a lot of people who tried chips containing that had similar issues because the Olestra fat was not absorbed and stayed in the gut.
Orlistat can be effective for some people, but I'd prefer to stick to CICO and keep my skivvies track free.
I remember those 'baked' chips with that. They cautioned about "loose stools" on the back of the bag! My friend was eating some back then and was sitting on a stool in my kitchen. I told her to read the back of the bag. She didn't understand. Then I tried to pull the stool out from under her! I thought it was hilarious!0 -
beemerphile1 wrote: »
Google fen-phen. My sister took those under a doctors orders, lost gobs of weight, destroyed her heart and her health. She is now fat again and nearly an invalid because of "diet pills".
My aunt took fen-phen. Prescribed to her by her primary care physician. She lost about 30lbs, but she needed to lose close to 180lbs. Then the FDA pulled it from the market and my aunt was left with IBS, a dead thyroid, and now she's heavier than she's ever been and needs the assistance of a cane to walk. Diet pills are scary stuff.
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mrsfosbenner wrote: »Frostbitten007 wrote: »I week ago I started taking diet pills. I've been taking the 1234 green bean coffee bean by Creative Bioscience. In a week, I've lost 3 pounds. I've taken diet pills in the past and have had success. I was wondering who else has taken diet pills. Have you had success with them? Which ones have you tried? Which diet pills have worked the best for you?
There are alot of diet pill / supplement haters on here. There is research that needs to go into a product before you try it. You want to be sure it's safe for you. It's from a reputable company. It has proven quality ingredients. .
That being said, i use plexus. Which is a great company. Who uses safe methods & ingredients. A ton of people have been experiencing added health benefits along with weight loss.
I have ibs & colitis. So a clean diet is a challenge.
After having twins & reducing my calories to 1200 a day i still wasn't seeing any results. UNTIL i started plexus!
Good luck
A "protein pill" and a multilevel marketing program... No.... Just no0 -
mrsfosbenner wrote: »Frostbitten007 wrote: »I week ago I started taking diet pills. I've been taking the 1234 green bean coffee bean by Creative Bioscience. In a week, I've lost 3 pounds. I've taken diet pills in the past and have had success. I was wondering who else has taken diet pills. Have you had success with them? Which ones have you tried? Which diet pills have worked the best for you?
There are alot of diet pill / supplement haters on here. There is research that needs to go into a product before you try it. You want to be sure it's safe for you. It's from a reputable company. It has proven quality ingredients. .
That being said, i use plexus. Which is a great company. Who uses safe methods & ingredients. A ton of people have been experiencing added health benefits along with weight loss.
I have ibs & colitis. So a clean diet is a challenge.
After having twins & reducing my calories to 1200 a day i still wasn't seeing any results. UNTIL i started plexus!
Good luck
Plexus is a mlm pyramid scheme company. Curious- how much do you spend on your supplements monthly. I hear they can be a pretty penny. Why spend hundreds of dollars on "miracle cures" when eating less than you burn is scientifically proven to be effective?0 -
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CherryOnionKiss wrote: »Diet pills scare the crap out of me. I've read article where some people died because of it.
Me too!
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101291828
"Dietary supplements account for nearly 20 percent of drug-related liver injuries that turn up in hospitals, up from 7 percent a decade ago, according to an analysis by a national network of liver specialists. The research included only the most severe cases of liver damage referred to a representative group of hospitals around the country, and the investigators said they were undercounting the actual number of cases."
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And on the topic of supplements and vitamins in general, respectable studies have shown that it's very very common for the "supplements" to contain NO ACTIVE INGREDIENT.
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/searching-for-the-supplement-in-your-supplement/0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »emmydoodles83 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »maillemaker wrote: »I week ago I started taking diet pills. I've been taking the 1234 green bean coffee bean by Creative Bioscience. In a week, I've lost 3 pounds. I've taken diet pills in the past and have had success. I was wondering who else has taken diet pills. Have you had success with them? Which ones have you tried? Which diet pills have worked the best for you?
There are very few effective weight loss drugs on the market currently. All of them require doctor supervision and a prescription. Anything sold as a "supplement" for weight loss is probably a scam.
I am currently taking phentermine/topiramate under the supervision of a doctor. Phentermine is a stimulant and appetite suppressant while topirmate is a depressant and appetite suppressant. These have been used in combination for some time now as an appetite suppressant. They are generally used in dosages high enough to suppress appetite but low enough that you do not generally have serious side effects.
Nonetheless, these are serious medications and the potential for serious side effects is present, which is why they require doctor supervision.
I find phentermine/topiramate to be a fairly effective appetite suppressant, which makes it easier to stick to a caloric deficit, which is what causes weight loss.
Topiramate (Topamax) is an anti-epileptic.
Many drugs have multiple uses they are just widely known for certain uses. Topiramate is also used for bipolar disorder and sometimes migraines. My aunt takes anti-seizure medication for her severe migraines
Just because Topamax is used for multiple conditions doesn't mean it should be called a 'depressant' or 'appetite suppressant' when it is in the anti-epileptic drug class.
I get what you are trying to say but "Just because" doesn't change the facts of what the drug does or it's other potential uses, and if it works great for that with minimum or low risk side effects then why not, what's your problem with it being used for that as well? Would classifying it under everything it's useful for help with your problem with calling it a depressant/suppressant? Example: Coke is for drinking but it cleans very well, since it is classified as a drink does that mean I can't use it to clean with as well?0 -
Yeah the problem with any fat-blocking drugs like Orlistat is that if you eat any fatty foods you will have diarrhea that you can't control. In theory the drug works by blocking the uptake of fat, so you don't absorb calories from fat. But because the social consequences of the drug are so severe, what really ends up happening is you adopt-a low-fat diet. So basically the way it works is not by actually helping your body do anything weight-loss related, instead it becomes a negative reinforcement mechanism to stop eating fatty foods.
Of course you can easily compensate the calorie loss by eating non-fatty foods.0 -
lovexopaige wrote: »PURPLE FIRE WEGHT LOSS PILLS they work sooooooo good I lost like 13 pounds in a month but they are currently out of stock on their website ughhh
I hope they restock soon. I've kept that 13 pounds off since October btw
Sounds legit.
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I have been using Activ8 X for a month now and working for me.0
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kshama2001 wrote: »http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/in-depth/alli/art-20047908
What is Alli?
Alli is the reduced-strength, 60-milligram version of orlistat (Xenical), a 120-milligram prescription drug.
Xenical is approved for use by people who have a body mass index (BMI) of 30 or more (obese), as well as people with a BMI of 27 to 29 (overweight) who have other health risk factors such as high blood pressure or diabetes.
Alli is approved for over-the-counter sale — with some exceptions — to overweight adults 18 years and older. Both Alli and Xenical are meant to be used as part of a weight-loss plan that includes a low-calorie, low-fat diet and regular physical activity.
What are the concerns with Alli?
In 2010, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a safety review of orlistat because of rare reports of serious liver injury in people using it. The FDA found no evidence to confirm that orlistat was the cause of the reported liver injuries.
However, Alli and Xenical labels were revised because of the reports. Talk to your doctor immediately if you have signs or symptoms that may indicate liver injury:
Itching
Loss of appetite
Yellow eyes or skin
Light-colored stool
Brown urine
How does Alli work?
Alli promotes weight loss by decreasing the amount of dietary fat absorbed in your intestines.
Lipase, an enzyme found in the digestive tract, helps break down dietary fat into smaller components, so it can be used or stored for energy. Alli inhibits the work of lipase. When you take the drug with a meal, about 30 percent of the fat you consume isn't broken down and is eliminated through bowel movements.
How much weight could I lose using Alli?
Alli may help you lose weight, but the weight loss will likely be modest — perhaps just a few pounds more than you would lose with diet and exercise alone.
Really? You are promoting Alli?
PROMOTING Alli? I was responding to the question above my post, "The prescription form of Alli is double-strength?"
I went on to include a bunch of negatives. This is not promotional copy, LMAO.0
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