Not losing weight and very frustrated.
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Please don't implement any form of intermittent fasting without double checking with your doctor! There are a few studies indicating it might have negative effects on women's hormones. See this article for a summary.
Apart from that I'd follow the advice to weigh all your food on your digital scale for greater accuracy.0 -
marymickaela wrote: »FatFreeFrolic wrote: You say you don't go into REM sleep… Neither do I. You also say you take anti-anxiety meds…Which one if you don't mind me asking. I ask because anxiety medications are the reason I don't go into REM. It is a side effect of some drugs.
I take Klonopin. I was down to 2mg until all this anxiety started acting up. Now I take 1mg during the day and 3mg at bedtime. It does seem to be helping.
Klonopin for anxiety? Interesting. I used to be on Klonopin for about a year during my divorce, but I took it for panic attacks and only as necessary because it acts very fast but is also highly addictive. I didn't notice any weight gain though. Maybe you can switch to a different anxiety medication?0 -
@marymickaela
I understand your concerns and support you in your journey. Contrary to what many posters say here, you will gain weight if you are on an atypical like Seroquel. Please don't adjust your medications based on what you hear on this forum. Also, please keep in mind that you will have a harder time losing weight as you are managing both your mood and weight issues at the same time.
You are eating a lot less than your target according to your diary. Perhaps that is precipitating the binge-eating on cheat days. As many others said above, weigh and log everything.0 -
musicandarts wrote: »Contrary to what many posters say here, you will gain weight if you are on an atypical like Seroquel.
There is a difference between "a lot of people gain weight on this drug" and "this drug causes weight gain".
The first part is true. The second part isn't.
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musicandarts wrote: »@marymickaela
I understand your concerns and support you in your journey. Contrary to what many posters say here, you will gain weight if you are on an atypical like Seroquel. Please don't adjust your medications based on what you hear on this forum. Also, please keep in mind that you will have a harder time losing weight as you are managing both your mood and weight issues at the same time.
You are eating a lot less than your target according to your diary. Perhaps that is precipitating the binge-eating on cheat days. As many others said above, weigh and log everything.
I'm on Seroquel as well as Paxil, which is also often blamed for weight gain, yet have lost 55lbs so far this year.
The drugs may cause increased appetite, but they don't have the magical ability to create calories out of nothing.
At the end of the day weight gain/loss boils down to CICO.0 -
musicandarts wrote: »@marymickaela
I understand your concerns and support you in your journey. Contrary to what many posters say here, you will gain weight if you are on an atypical like Seroquel. Please don't adjust your medications based on what you hear on this forum. Also, please keep in mind that you will have a harder time losing weight as you are managing both your mood and weight issues at the same time.
You are eating a lot less than your target according to your diary. Perhaps that is precipitating the binge-eating on cheat days. As many others said above, weigh and log everything.
I'm on Seroquel as well as Paxil, which is also often blamed for weight gain, yet have lost 55lbs so far this year.
The drugs may cause increased appetite, but they don't have the magical ability to create calories out of nothing.
At the end of the day weight gain/loss boils down to CICO.
And thankkkk you!
its so simple...really
Doesnt mean it makes OP's journey easier btw.
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The body as you know doesnt always do what the mind wants. It may be holding on because you are doing such a good job dieting. Stick with it an it will work out.0
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While all these factors you mention can certainly affect weight loss, bottom line is you need to ingest fewer calories that you spend in order to loose weight. Instead of looking elsewhere, focus on your calorie intake. If you outsource the problem, you also outsource the solution and make it impossible to achieve your goal. To loose weight on a 2000kcal/day diet, you have to be very young or an athlete... I found this book to be very helpful, good luck: http://www.amazon.com/Foodaholic-Seven-Stages-Permanent-Weight-ebook/dp/B005FT9HIM/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1432396917&sr=1-1&keywords=foodaholic
Everyone is different. I'm neither young or athletic and I lost weight on 2000 calories about 25 pounds. I lose weight slowly whether on 2000 calories or the 1500 calories I'm currently on.Possibly because I find exercise difficult due to arthritis.
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i see you quoting a lot of excuses. stop using them and start weighing your food.
I really want to smack those of you who seem so smug about it's all my fault cause I'm eating more then I'm expending. I"M NOT!!! I AM EATING AT A DEFICIT!!!!!
I'm not making lots of excuses, just trying to find a solution. I eat around 1200 calories a day, not 2,000, and there's been some days it's under that. A couple days I was under 1000 and MFP wouldn't let me end my diary for the day saying I wasn't eating enough calories.
Right now I am feeling deeply depressed as in the last 2 weeks I've gained 3lbs, my clothes don't fit and I feel like a whale. What I was trying to explain were possible reasons I haven't been able to lose. This last 3 weeks is the healthiest I've probably ever eaten. I've been religious about logging my food. Increased my water intake to 8 glasses a day. Eaten more fruits and salads with low cal dressings, more lean protein like fish and chicken. I'm really proud of how well I done in the food department.
I try and do as much exercise as I can, but with my fibromyalgia I run daily fevers running around 100 to 101 degrees (another excuse). If I overdo it I can barely move the next day.
I used to be smug too. I was always ultra thin, never had to count calories, but then I got thyroid cancer at age 26, while pregnant and if my levels get too low my metabolism slows down (oops, another excuse).
I plan to call my doctor tomorrow and insist he switch me off of Seroquel, but don't know if he will because you see I'm bipolar (another excuse).
So go ahead, make fun and beat me up with your criticism. I have therapy Thursday so maybe my therapist can help me stay ahead of this depression. I guess being depressed is just another excuse so sorry.
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marymickaela wrote: »i see you quoting a lot of excuses. stop using them and start weighing your food.
I really want to smack those of you who seem so smug about it's all my fault cause I'm eating more then I'm expending. I"M NOT!!! I AM EATING AT A DEFICIT!!!!!
I'm not making lots of excuses, just trying to find a solution. I eat around 1200 calories a day, not 2,000, and there's been some days it's under that. A couple days I was under 1000 and MFP wouldn't let me end my diary for the day saying I wasn't eating enough calories.
Right now I am feeling deeply depressed as in the last 2 weeks I've gained 3lbs, my clothes don't fit and I feel like a whale. What I was trying to explain were possible reasons I haven't been able to lose. This last 3 weeks is the healthiest I've probably ever eaten. I've been religious about logging my food. Increased my water intake to 8 glasses a day. Eaten more fruits and salads with low cal dressings, more lean protein like fish and chicken. I'm really proud of how well I done in the food department.
I try and do as much exercise as I can, but with my fibromyalgia I run daily fevers running around 100 to 101 degrees (another excuse). If I overdo it I can barely move the next day.
I used to be smug too. I was always ultra thin, never had to count calories, but then I got thyroid cancer at age 26, while pregnant and if my levels get too low my metabolism slows down (oops, another excuse).
I plan to call my doctor tomorrow and insist he switch me off of Seroquel, but don't know if he will because you see I'm bipolar (another excuse).
So go ahead, make fun and beat me up with your criticism. I have therapy Thursday so maybe my therapist can help me stay ahead of this depression. I guess being depressed is just another excuse so sorry.
How are your thyroid levels now? Or have they not been checked recently?0 -
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you are NOT weighing all your food on a food scale and that is your problem
1 medium apple 80 calories gala(entree out of your diary)....well what is medium to you dont have to be medium here on MFP or the person who brought this entree in and a gala apples is quickly over 100 calories
i see nuts and bean entree 160 calories for 1.5 cup
So not weighed out
And not weighing some things is maybe ok. But regular over the day so a lot in the week makes you eat much more than the 1200 you think you eat.
You are not a special snow flock sorry
It is the same for everybody eat less calories than you burn and you will lose weight.
And yes a medical issue can have its influence...but that can translate to slower weight loss ...not in "not able to lose weight".
Lots of people here have the same medical problems and lose weight. And so can you
Start weighing your food ...ALL your food on a food scale. And you will lose weight as long as your deficit is there.
And you can shout ( write in capital letters) you can post it as much as you want...but your body is the perfect calculator and judge how much you eat.
You cant fool your body for one second.... it will record every calorie in and out for you. Even when you dont like it or want to know it.
I know i dont sound nice.
but it seems that you are not even willing to try it out for 2 weeks to weigh every single bite...while you have nothing to lose ( pun intended).
Everybody tries to help here
A lot of people with the same issues as you, but you know it better than all of them. Than everybody. you are right all posters/advice and yes even your own body who tells you different is wrong.
Well ok you cant lose weight that's it!
Your road, your life, your body. Said this before.
Take it or leave it.
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »you are NOT weighing all your food on a food scale and that is your problem
1 medium apple 80 calories gala(entree out of your diary)....well what is medium to you dont have to be medium here on MFP or the person who brought this entree in and a gala apples is quickly over 100 calories
i see nuts and bean entree 160 calories for 1.5 cup
So not weighed out
And not weighing some things is maybe ok. But regular over the day so a lot in the week makes you eat much more than the 1200 you think you eat.
You are not a special snow flock sorry
It is the same for everybody eat less calories than you burn and you will lose weight.
And yes a medical issue can have its influence...but that can translate to slower weight loss ...not in "not able to lose weight".
Lots of people here have the same as thyroid problems and lose weight. And so can you
Start weighing your food ...ALL your food on a food scale. And you will lose weight as long as your deficit is there.
And you can shout ( write in capital letters) you can post it as much as you want...but your body is the perfect calculator and judge how much you eat.
You cant fool your body for one second.... it will record every calorie in and out for you. Even when you dont like it or want to know it.
I know i dont sound nice.
but it seems that you are not even willing to try it out for 2 weeks to weigh every single bite...while you have nothing to lose ( pun intended).
Everybody tries to help here
A lot of people with the same issues as you, but you know it better than all of them. Than everybody. you are right all posters/advice and yes even your own body who tells you different is wrong.
Well ok you cant lose weight that's it!
Your road, your life, your body. Said this before.
Take it or leave it.
The average gala apple that I eat is about 120 calories. And I eat and weigh a lot of apples. 80 is like a really small apple you wouldn't even bother buying.0 -
Eating at a deficit means that you are losing weight. Different BMR calculators will give slightly different estimates, and they can be a little off, but it's somewhere to start. When it comes to weight loss, how much you eat is more important than what you eat. Are you weighing everything you eat/drink/add to your food/drink? Be patient and diligent. Accept that weight fluctuates naturally independantly from actual fat loss/gain.0
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galgenstrick wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »you are NOT weighing all your food on a food scale and that is your problem
1 medium apple 80 calories gala(entree out of your diary)....well what is medium to you dont have to be medium here on MFP or the person who brought this entree in and a gala apples is quickly over 100 calories
i see nuts and bean entree 160 calories for 1.5 cup
So not weighed out
And not weighing some things is maybe ok. But regular over the day so a lot in the week makes you eat much more than the 1200 you think you eat.
You are not a special snow flock sorry
It is the same for everybody eat less calories than you burn and you will lose weight.
And yes a medical issue can have its influence...but that can translate to slower weight loss ...not in "not able to lose weight".
Lots of people here have the same as thyroid problems and lose weight. And so can you
Start weighing your food ...ALL your food on a food scale. And you will lose weight as long as your deficit is there.
And you can shout ( write in capital letters) you can post it as much as you want...but your body is the perfect calculator and judge how much you eat.
You cant fool your body for one second.... it will record every calorie in and out for you. Even when you dont like it or want to know it.
I know i dont sound nice.
but it seems that you are not even willing to try it out for 2 weeks to weigh every single bite...while you have nothing to lose ( pun intended).
Everybody tries to help here
A lot of people with the same issues as you, but you know it better than all of them. Than everybody. you are right all posters/advice and yes even your own body who tells you different is wrong.
Well ok you cant lose weight that's it!
Your road, your life, your body. Said this before.
Take it or leave it.
The average gala apple that I eat is about 120 calories. And I eat and weigh a lot of apples.
the point is she doesnt weigh all her food.
so a 40 calories here a 40 calories there..not calculated for.
She has some medical issues which make it harder for her to lose weight...on top of that she eats more than she logs.
So she needs to be much more accurate than somebody with 200 pounds to lose and or having no medical issues at all.
That's the point.
I took the apple as example out of her diary and the nuts and beans to show she doesn't weigh all her food.
Funny is also the calorie more dense food she doesn't weigh Her lettuce she does.
Really i would do this the other way around i would like to know how much nuts and beans i eat and the lettuce ..mehhhh
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marymickaela wrote: »
If over an extended period of time you're not losing weight, then you're not eating a deficit - end of story.
You've been given the right answer, by more than one person. Now it's up to you what you do with it....0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »you are NOT weighing all your food on a food scale and that is your problem
1 medium apple 80 calories gala(entree out of your diary)....well what is medium to you dont have to be medium here on MFP or the person who brought this entree in and a gala apples is quickly over 100 calories
i see nuts and bean entree 160 calories for 1.5 cup
So not weighed out
And not weighing some things is maybe ok. But regular over the day so a lot in the week makes you eat much more than the 1200 you think you eat.
You are not a special snow flock sorry
It is the same for everybody eat less calories than you burn and you will lose weight.
And yes a medical issue can have its influence...but that can translate to slower weight loss ...not in "not able to lose weight".
Lots of people here have the same as thyroid problems and lose weight. And so can you
Start weighing your food ...ALL your food on a food scale. And you will lose weight as long as your deficit is there.
And you can shout ( write in capital letters) you can post it as much as you want...but your body is the perfect calculator and judge how much you eat.
You cant fool your body for one second.... it will record every calorie in and out for you. Even when you dont like it or want to know it.
I know i dont sound nice.
but it seems that you are not even willing to try it out for 2 weeks to weigh every single bite...while you have nothing to lose ( pun intended).
Everybody tries to help here
A lot of people with the same issues as you, but you know it better than all of them. Than everybody. you are right all posters/advice and yes even your own body who tells you different is wrong.
Well ok you cant lose weight that's it!
Your road, your life, your body. Said this before.
Take it or leave it.
The average gala apple that I eat is about 120 calories. And I eat and weigh a lot of apples.
the point is she doesnt weigh all her food.
so a 40 calories here a 40 calories there..not calculated for.
She has some medical issues which make it harder for her to lose weight...on top of that she eats more than she logs.
So she needs to be much more accurate than somebody with 200 pounds to lose and or having no medical issues at all.
That's the point.
I took the apple as example out of her diary and the nuts and beans to show she doesn't weigh all her food.
Funny is also the calorie more dense food she doesn't weigh Her lettuce she does.
Really i would do this the other way around i would like to know how much nuts and beans i eat and the lettuce ..mehhhh
Yup, I totally agree with you, that's why I posted that. 80 calories for an apple is just unlikely. They need to be weighed. 40 calories is significant, and if all the other foods she ate were twice the amount of calories that she logged, then she's eating 2400 calories every day.0 -
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@kshama2001 where did that meme go when you need it?0
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kk :0 thought you meant it isnt much lol
but we agree
I see also entrees of 2 cups of oats and like 1 banana..... we all know that are calorie hogs and need to be weighed out.
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galgenstrick wrote: »@kshama2001 where did that meme go when you need it?
I'll save that. I'd prefer to be helpful here.
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marymickaela wrote: »
everyone already said to measure all food by weight, not volume
can't know that you've been eating at a deficit previously if you were not doing this0 -
Is your thyroid working correctly? At TSH of 3, start replacement. Losing weight while on Seroquel is hard, but can be done. I use a food scale & it has really helped. Good luck.0
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I use a digital scale. Yes, I was using MFP for the apples, and will start using my scale from now on, however, for most everything else, I use the digital scale or what the food package states. like my slice of break. Like I said many days I'm not even eating 1,000 calories so accounting for making mistakes I should still be under and certainly not gain 3lbs in the last two weeks. Many people on MFP state that even 1,200 is too low.
Since it looks to you like I'm not open to any of your suggestions (which is not true, it's just the way it's presented that's upsetting) and that I just want to make more excuses this will be my last post. For those of you who sincerely tried to help me I say thank you. Good luck to all of you in your weight loss journey.
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I am adding one more thing. I will weigh every bite that goes into my mouth for the next two weeks and post back the results.
Yes, my thyroid levels are within normal limits at this time. However, the endocrinologist is monitoring a small growth they've discovered during an ultrasound.0 -
Keep at it. Are you exercising? Makes all the difference to me and will help tone and give you better shape.
As for people saying there's no such thing as meds that give you weight gain, there are meds that make it a lot harder to lose weight. My cousin had leukaemia and the steroids made and continue to make it much harder to be slim. OP asked for advice and help.
I'd agree with those who say try weighing on a different day of the week if Sunday is your gorging day!
Weighing monthly and taking measurements of waist and hips could be worth trying.0 -
marymickaela wrote: »I use a digital scale. Yes, I was using MFP for the apples, and will start using my scale from now on, however, for most everything else, I use the digital scale or what the food package states. like my slice of break. Like I said many days I'm not even eating 1,000 calories so accounting for making mistakes I should still be under and certainly not gain 3lbs in the last two weeks. Many people on MFP state that even 1,200 is too low.
Since it looks to you like I'm not open to any of your suggestions (which is not true, it's just the way it's presented that's upsetting) and that I just want to make more excuses this will be my last post. For those of you who sincerely tried to help me I say thank you. Good luck to all of you in your weight loss journey.
Weigh packaged food. It's eye opening. I've had pieces of bread weigh out to be 50% more than the stated package weight.
Also? What are your stats? I haven't reread the thread from the beginning. How tall are you and what do you currently weigh?
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