Low Carb Problem
Gizmo20783
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So once a week I have two back to back days where I reduce my carbohydrate intake to around 50 grams. However getting about 2,000 calories with only 50 grams of carbs is rather difficult for me. I've found that the only options I can rely on are increasing my meat intake, but having 15oz+ of meat in a day, while enjoyable, is making me uneasy. Can anyone offer me any advice or put my mind at ease.
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This group can help you with answers to your questions
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group
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My personal suggestion is to ditch low carb if there is no medical need to do so. You don't need to reduce carbs to lose weight. All you need is an overall calorie deficit to lose weight.0
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missiontofitness wrote: »My personal suggestion is to ditch low carb if there is no medical need to do so. You don't need to reduce carbs to lose weight. All you need is an overall calorie deficit to lose weight.
I agree that's why I only do it twice a week as kinda like a modified carb cycling thing.
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Gizmo20783 wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »My personal suggestion is to ditch low carb if there is no medical need to do so. You don't need to reduce carbs to lose weight. All you need is an overall calorie deficit to lose weight.
I agree that's why I only do it twice a week as kinda like a modified carb cycling thing.
Clearly it's not working for you, though. Why not just eat at a deficit, exercise, and call it a day? Weight loss doesn't need to be complicated, and the only cycling you need to do is on a bike, and not with your intake.0 -
missiontofitness wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »My personal suggestion is to ditch low carb if there is no medical need to do so. You don't need to reduce carbs to lose weight. All you need is an overall calorie deficit to lose weight.
I agree that's why I only do it twice a week as kinda like a modified carb cycling thing.
Clearly it's not working for you, though. Why not just eat at a deficit, exercise, and call it a day? Weight loss doesn't need to be complicated, and the only cycling you need to do is on a bike, and not with your intake.
Clearly huh? Why be insulting and yet not offer any constructive advice about my issue? Instead you question my method even though your opinion about it wasn't asked. Oh wait, it's after midnight and you must be starving. I'll pray for you.
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Gizmo20783 wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »My personal suggestion is to ditch low carb if there is no medical need to do so. You don't need to reduce carbs to lose weight. All you need is an overall calorie deficit to lose weight.
I agree that's why I only do it twice a week as kinda like a modified carb cycling thing.
Clearly it's not working for you, though. Why not just eat at a deficit, exercise, and call it a day? Weight loss doesn't need to be complicated, and the only cycling you need to do is on a bike, and not with your intake.
Clearly huh? Why be insulting and yet not offer any constructive advice about my issue? Instead you question my method even though your opinion about it wasn't asked. Oh wait, it's after midnight and you must be starving. I'll pray for you.
You are the one who took offense to a post where none was given. You posted on here saying that eating the amount of meat you'd have to on a low-carb day isn't ideal for you. I offered a suggestion, which is that this doesn't have to be complicated.
The snark is unnecessary as well, nor are your prayers needed.0 -
Gizmo20783 wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »My personal suggestion is to ditch low carb if there is no medical need to do so. You don't need to reduce carbs to lose weight. All you need is an overall calorie deficit to lose weight.
I agree that's why I only do it twice a week as kinda like a modified carb cycling thing.
Clearly it's not working for you, though. Why not just eat at a deficit, exercise, and call it a day? Weight loss doesn't need to be complicated, and the only cycling you need to do is on a bike, and not with your intake.
Clearly huh? Why be insulting and yet not offer any constructive advice about my issue? Instead you question my method even though your opinion about it wasn't asked. Oh wait, it's after midnight and you must be starving. I'll pray for you.
Seriously though, just because you don't like the advice of "you don't need to carb cycle to lose weight" doesn't mean you have to get all crappy with her. The advice was solid, and if you're not enjoying what you're having to eat when doing your lower carb on the weekend then what is the point? It's not giving you some magical extra weight loss in those 2 days or anything.0 -
PrizePopple wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »My personal suggestion is to ditch low carb if there is no medical need to do so. You don't need to reduce carbs to lose weight. All you need is an overall calorie deficit to lose weight.
I agree that's why I only do it twice a week as kinda like a modified carb cycling thing.
Clearly it's not working for you, though. Why not just eat at a deficit, exercise, and call it a day? Weight loss doesn't need to be complicated, and the only cycling you need to do is on a bike, and not with your intake.
Clearly huh? Why be insulting and yet not offer any constructive advice about my issue? Instead you question my method even though your opinion about it wasn't asked. Oh wait, it's after midnight and you must be starving. I'll pray for you.
Seriously though, just because you don't like the advice of "you don't need to carb cycle to lose weight" doesn't mean you have to get all crappy with her. The advice was solid, and if you're not enjoying what you're having to eat when doing your lower carb on the weekend then what is the point? It's not giving you some magical extra weight loss in those 2 days or anything.
However "solid" you consider the advice I considered it irrelevant since it didn't relate to the topic much like your comment.
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Gizmo20783 wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »My personal suggestion is to ditch low carb if there is no medical need to do so. You don't need to reduce carbs to lose weight. All you need is an overall calorie deficit to lose weight.
I agree that's why I only do it twice a week as kinda like a modified carb cycling thing.
Clearly it's not working for you, though. Why not just eat at a deficit, exercise, and call it a day? Weight loss doesn't need to be complicated, and the only cycling you need to do is on a bike, and not with your intake.
Clearly huh? Why be insulting and yet not offer any constructive advice about my issue? Instead you question my method even though your opinion about it wasn't asked. Oh wait, it's after midnight and you must be starving. I'll pray for you.
Seriously though, just because you don't like the advice of "you don't need to carb cycle to lose weight" doesn't mean you have to get all crappy with her. The advice was solid, and if you're not enjoying what you're having to eat when doing your lower carb on the weekend then what is the point? It's not giving you some magical extra weight loss in those 2 days or anything.
However "solid" you consider the advice I considered it irrelevant since it didn't relate to the topic much like your comment.
Well neither did saying you'll pray for someone because they're obviously hungry. Another solid piece of advice you might want to consider, being a total prat to people who give you advice isn't going to do you any favors, and people here tend to remember those who do such things. Good luck getting advice though.0 -
Why Are you cycling carbs?0
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galgenstrick wrote: »Why Are you cycling carbs?
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I can tell you that you'll feel weak and lethargic on your low carb days, and even more so if your average carbs are in the low end. Your workouts will suck, and your strength will drop. Low carbs diets should only be used if there is a medical problem that requires it.0
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galgenstrick wrote: »I can tell you that you'll feel weak and lethargic on your low carb days, and even more so if your average carbs are in the low end. Your workouts will suck, and your strength will drop. Low carbs diets should only be used if there is a medical problem that requires it.
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Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »I can tell you that you'll feel weak and lethargic on your low carb days, and even more so if your average carbs are in the low end. Your workouts will suck, and your strength will drop. Low carbs diets should only be used if there is a medical problem that requires it.
150-170 seems low to me too for a 2000 calorie diet. How much do you weigh? What is your current goal weight?0 -
UltimateRBF wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »missiontofitness wrote: »My personal suggestion is to ditch low carb if there is no medical need to do so. You don't need to reduce carbs to lose weight. All you need is an overall calorie deficit to lose weight.
I agree that's why I only do it twice a week as kinda like a modified carb cycling thing.
Clearly it's not working for you, though. Why not just eat at a deficit, exercise, and call it a day? Weight loss doesn't need to be complicated, and the only cycling you need to do is on a bike, and not with your intake.
Clearly huh? Why be insulting and yet not offer any constructive advice about my issue? Instead you question my method even though your opinion about it wasn't asked. Oh wait, it's after midnight and you must be starving. I'll pray for you.
Whut. First of all she did offer constructive criticism, and good advice. Second...whut? After midnight? Must be starving? That literally makes no sense.
Feel better?
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galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »I can tell you that you'll feel weak and lethargic on your low carb days, and even more so if your average carbs are in the low end. Your workouts will suck, and your strength will drop. Low carbs diets should only be used if there is a medical problem that requires it.
150-170 seems low to me too for a 2000 calorie diet. How much do you weigh? What is your current goal weight?
6'5 310. My goals hover around 240-250 over the next 18 months.
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Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »I can tell you that you'll feel weak and lethargic on your low carb days, and even more so if your average carbs are in the low end. Your workouts will suck, and your strength will drop. Low carbs diets should only be used if there is a medical problem that requires it.
150-170 seems low to me too for a 2000 calorie diet. How much do you weigh? What is your current goal weight?
6'5 310. My goals hover around 240-250 over the next 18 months.
Do you know your TDEE? Low or moderate carbs will not help you lose weight any faster. I would try to keep carbs as high as possible while hitting your protein goal (should be around 180grams) and fat goal (about 20-25% of your calories). A lot of it is preference though, so if you feel better on low carbs, then that might help you stick to the plan. But if you feel better on low carbs, I would see a dr, maybe you have something else going on, because I can't imagine anyone without a medical concern would feel better on that low of carbs.0 -
galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »I can tell you that you'll feel weak and lethargic on your low carb days, and even more so if your average carbs are in the low end. Your workouts will suck, and your strength will drop. Low carbs diets should only be used if there is a medical problem that requires it.
150-170 seems low to me too for a 2000 calorie diet. How much do you weigh? What is your current goal weight?
6'5 310. My goals hover around 240-250 over the next 18 months.
Do you know your TDEE? Low or moderate carbs will not help you lose weight any faster. I would try to keep carbs as high as possible while hitting your protein goal (should be around 180grams) and fat goal (about 20-25% of your calories). A lot of it is preference though, so if you feel better on low carbs, then that might help you stick to the plan. But if you feel better on low carbs, I would see a dr, maybe you have something else going on, because I can't imagine anyone without a medical concern would feel better on that low of carbs.
Honestly, I eat pretty well with 150C and it's fairly sustainable without me feeling deprived so unless it's going to help me lose weight faster I don't see a reason to increase it.
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Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »I can tell you that you'll feel weak and lethargic on your low carb days, and even more so if your average carbs are in the low end. Your workouts will suck, and your strength will drop. Low carbs diets should only be used if there is a medical problem that requires it.
150-170 seems low to me too for a 2000 calorie diet. How much do you weigh? What is your current goal weight?
6'5 310. My goals hover around 240-250 over the next 18 months.
Do you know your TDEE? Low or moderate carbs will not help you lose weight any faster. I would try to keep carbs as high as possible while hitting your protein goal (should be around 180grams) and fat goal (about 20-25% of your calories). A lot of it is preference though, so if you feel better on low carbs, then that might help you stick to the plan. But if you feel better on low carbs, I would see a dr, maybe you have something else going on, because I can't imagine anyone without a medical concern would feel better on that low of carbs.
Honestly, I eat pretty well with 150C and it's fairly sustainable without me feeling deprived so unless it's going to help me lose weight faster I don't see a reason to increase it.
If your fats are very high, then it's possible that increasing carbs and lowering fat will help it go faster due to the higher thermic effect of carbs vs fats. It would probably not be noticeable though.
If you're feeling good at 150 carbs, then I'd say stick with that, but don't cycle them, that won't really serve any purpose.0 -
galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »I can tell you that you'll feel weak and lethargic on your low carb days, and even more so if your average carbs are in the low end. Your workouts will suck, and your strength will drop. Low carbs diets should only be used if there is a medical problem that requires it.
150-170 seems low to me too for a 2000 calorie diet. How much do you weigh? What is your current goal weight?
6'5 310. My goals hover around 240-250 over the next 18 months.
Do you know your TDEE? Low or moderate carbs will not help you lose weight any faster. I would try to keep carbs as high as possible while hitting your protein goal (should be around 180grams) and fat goal (about 20-25% of your calories). A lot of it is preference though, so if you feel better on low carbs, then that might help you stick to the plan. But if you feel better on low carbs, I would see a dr, maybe you have something else going on, because I can't imagine anyone without a medical concern would feel better on that low of carbs.
Honestly, I eat pretty well with 150C and it's fairly sustainable without me feeling deprived so unless it's going to help me lose weight faster I don't see a reason to increase it.
If your fats are very high, then it's possible that increasing carbs and lowering fat will help it go faster due to the higher thermic effect of carbs vs fats. It would probably not be noticeable though.
If you're feeling good at 150 carbs, then I'd say stick with that, but don't cycle them, that won't really serve any purpose.
Well I've already set it up for today and Friday so I'll just do them this time and stick with my normal routine thereafter. I use a 150C 70F 175P combination and it's sustainable which is important for me. What do you think?
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Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »I can tell you that you'll feel weak and lethargic on your low carb days, and even more so if your average carbs are in the low end. Your workouts will suck, and your strength will drop. Low carbs diets should only be used if there is a medical problem that requires it.
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galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »I can tell you that you'll feel weak and lethargic on your low carb days, and even more so if your average carbs are in the low end. Your workouts will suck, and your strength will drop. Low carbs diets should only be used if there is a medical problem that requires it.
150-170 seems low to me too for a 2000 calorie diet. How much do you weigh? What is your current goal weight?
6'5 310. My goals hover around 240-250 over the next 18 months.
Do you know your TDEE? Low or moderate carbs will not help you lose weight any faster. I would try to keep carbs as high as possible while hitting your protein goal (should be around 180grams) and fat goal (about 20-25% of your calories). A lot of it is preference though, so if you feel better on low carbs, then that might help you stick to the plan. But if you feel better on low carbs, I would see a dr, maybe you have something else going on, because I can't imagine anyone without a medical concern would feel better on that low of carbs.
First of all, 150-170 is not low. It is barely in the moderate carb category. And on the two days he does 50, lots of people do less than that every day with no problem...for years at a time. He says he feels fine with those levels, and it seems to me he knows best when it comes to his body.
I try to keep carbs under 100 every day, and sometimes I get down around 50 as well. I have no medical issues...no diabetes, no pre-diabetes, no abnormal test results. I just feel much better eating that way. I have more energy overall, and don't get big energy swings like I used to get when I ate more carbs. I also get no cravings and am rarely hungry.
So your advice that low carb (and I would NOT call his overall diet low carb) diets should only be used if there is a medical problem is just plain wrong.
Gizmo, the advice to eat more fat is good advice. There is nothing wrong with the meat, and if you choose fatty cuts you are likely already getting a good dose of fat with that. Most people doing low carb diets, especially once they get down to 50 and below, do eat more fat to compensate. So put some cream in your coffee, have some cheese, butter, peanut butter, avocado, whatever you like. Or just stick with the meat. I don't think that will do any harm unless you just don't like eating that much of it. And check out the low carb group someone linked above...lots of people there who can answer specific questions.0 -
Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »I can tell you that you'll feel weak and lethargic on your low carb days, and even more so if your average carbs are in the low end. Your workouts will suck, and your strength will drop. Low carbs diets should only be used if there is a medical problem that requires it.
150-170 seems low to me too for a 2000 calorie diet. How much do you weigh? What is your current goal weight?
6'5 310. My goals hover around 240-250 over the next 18 months.
Do you know your TDEE? Low or moderate carbs will not help you lose weight any faster. I would try to keep carbs as high as possible while hitting your protein goal (should be around 180grams) and fat goal (about 20-25% of your calories). A lot of it is preference though, so if you feel better on low carbs, then that might help you stick to the plan. But if you feel better on low carbs, I would see a dr, maybe you have something else going on, because I can't imagine anyone without a medical concern would feel better on that low of carbs.
Honestly, I eat pretty well with 150C and it's fairly sustainable without me feeling deprived so unless it's going to help me lose weight faster I don't see a reason to increase it.
If your fats are very high, then it's possible that increasing carbs and lowering fat will help it go faster due to the higher thermic effect of carbs vs fats. It would probably not be noticeable though.
If you're feeling good at 150 carbs, then I'd say stick with that, but don't cycle them, that won't really serve any purpose.
Well I've already set it up for today and Friday so I'll just do them this time and stick with my normal routine thereafter. I use a 150C 70F 175P combination and it's sustainable which is important for me. What do you think?
How did you determine 2000 calories per day. That seems low to me. Was that what MFP gave you? Are you eating back exercise calories?0 -
MoiAussi93 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »I can tell you that you'll feel weak and lethargic on your low carb days, and even more so if your average carbs are in the low end. Your workouts will suck, and your strength will drop. Low carbs diets should only be used if there is a medical problem that requires it.
150-170 seems low to me too for a 2000 calorie diet. How much do you weigh? What is your current goal weight?
6'5 310. My goals hover around 240-250 over the next 18 months.
Do you know your TDEE? Low or moderate carbs will not help you lose weight any faster. I would try to keep carbs as high as possible while hitting your protein goal (should be around 180grams) and fat goal (about 20-25% of your calories). A lot of it is preference though, so if you feel better on low carbs, then that might help you stick to the plan. But if you feel better on low carbs, I would see a dr, maybe you have something else going on, because I can't imagine anyone without a medical concern would feel better on that low of carbs.
First of all, 150-170 is not that low. It is barely in the moderate carb category. And on the two days he does 50, lots of people do less than that every day with no problem...for years at a time. He says he feels fine with those levels, and it seems to me he knows best when it comes to his body.
I try to keep carbs under 100 every day, and sometimes I get down around 50 as well. I have no medical issues...no diabetes, no pre-diabetes, no abnormal test results. I just feel much better eating that way. I have more energy overall, and don't get big energy swings like I used to get when I ate more carbs. I also get no cravings and am rarely hungry.
So your advice that low carb (and I would NOT call his overall diet low carb) diets should only be used if there is a medical problem is just plain wrong.
Gizmo, the advice to eat more fat is good advice. There is nothing wrong with the meat, and if you choose fatty cuts you are likely already getting a good dose of fat with that. Most people doing low carb diets, especially once they get down to 50 and below, do eat more fat to compensate. So put some cream in your coffee, have some cheese, butter, peanut butter, avocado, whatever you like. Or just stick with the meat. I don't think that will do any harm unless you just don't like eating that much of it. And check out the low carb group someone linked above...lots of people there who can answer specific questions.
I trully appreciate the great advice and thank you.
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galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »I can tell you that you'll feel weak and lethargic on your low carb days, and even more so if your average carbs are in the low end. Your workouts will suck, and your strength will drop. Low carbs diets should only be used if there is a medical problem that requires it.
150-170 seems low to me too for a 2000 calorie diet. How much do you weigh? What is your current goal weight?
6'5 310. My goals hover around 240-250 over the next 18 months.
Do you know your TDEE? Low or moderate carbs will not help you lose weight any faster. I would try to keep carbs as high as possible while hitting your protein goal (should be around 180grams) and fat goal (about 20-25% of your calories). A lot of it is preference though, so if you feel better on low carbs, then that might help you stick to the plan. But if you feel better on low carbs, I would see a dr, maybe you have something else going on, because I can't imagine anyone without a medical concern would feel better on that low of carbs.
Honestly, I eat pretty well with 150C and it's fairly sustainable without me feeling deprived so unless it's going to help me lose weight faster I don't see a reason to increase it.
If your fats are very high, then it's possible that increasing carbs and lowering fat will help it go faster due to the higher thermic effect of carbs vs fats. It would probably not be noticeable though.
If you're feeling good at 150 carbs, then I'd say stick with that, but don't cycle them, that won't really serve any purpose.
Well I've already set it up for today and Friday so I'll just do them this time and stick with my normal routine thereafter. I use a 150C 70F 175P combination and it's sustainable which is important for me. What do you think?
How did you determine 2000 calories per day. That seems low to me. Was that what MFP gave you? Are you eating back exercise calories?
Well MFP gave me like 2250 something around that and I keep that as my maximum but I rarely ever hit it. Eating back calories is too complicated espcially when trying to determine how many I've burned so I never eat them back.
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Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Gizmo20783 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »I can tell you that you'll feel weak and lethargic on your low carb days, and even more so if your average carbs are in the low end. Your workouts will suck, and your strength will drop. Low carbs diets should only be used if there is a medical problem that requires it.
150-170 seems low to me too for a 2000 calorie diet. How much do you weigh? What is your current goal weight?
6'5 310. My goals hover around 240-250 over the next 18 months.
Do you know your TDEE? Low or moderate carbs will not help you lose weight any faster. I would try to keep carbs as high as possible while hitting your protein goal (should be around 180grams) and fat goal (about 20-25% of your calories). A lot of it is preference though, so if you feel better on low carbs, then that might help you stick to the plan. But if you feel better on low carbs, I would see a dr, maybe you have something else going on, because I can't imagine anyone without a medical concern would feel better on that low of carbs.
Honestly, I eat pretty well with 150C and it's fairly sustainable without me feeling deprived so unless it's going to help me lose weight faster I don't see a reason to increase it.
If your fats are very high, then it's possible that increasing carbs and lowering fat will help it go faster due to the higher thermic effect of carbs vs fats. It would probably not be noticeable though.
If you're feeling good at 150 carbs, then I'd say stick with that, but don't cycle them, that won't really serve any purpose.
Well I've already set it up for today and Friday so I'll just do them this time and stick with my normal routine thereafter. I use a 150C 70F 175P combination and it's sustainable which is important for me. What do you think?
How did you determine 2000 calories per day. That seems low to me. Was that what MFP gave you? Are you eating back exercise calories?
Well MFP gave me like 2250 something around that and I keep that as my maximum but I rarely ever hit it. Eating back calories is too complicated espcially when trying to determine how many I've burned so I never eat them back.
Well, since you're into experimenting, I would recommend running an experiment by trying to hit that 2250 calories by adding more carbs like pasta or bread or whatever and keeping your proteins and fats like you have them. Then you will have a direct comparison on which diet you prefer. In the end, it's really just what makes you feel the best and what you can stick to. There are certain guidelines for proteins and fats, but carbs aren't essential for survival, so you can be pretty flexible with them. The exception is If you're working on increasing strength in the gym, then I wouldn't recommend cutting them too low ever.0
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