Empty calories list....
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Would Iceburg lettuce and cucumbers be considered empty calories due to their low nutritional value? Would Lucky Charms be considered a super food?
No, because the definition on MyPlate states that empty calories come from solid fats and/or added sugars. It mentions that things like "A few plant oils, including coconut oil and palm oil, are high in saturated fats and for nutritional purposes are considered solid fats."
"Solid fats and oils provide the same number of calories per gram. However, oils are generally better for your health than solid fats because they contain less saturated fats and/or trans fats." "Oils are NOT a food group, but they provide essential nutrients. Therefore, oils are included in USDA food patterns." "A few plant oils, however, including coconut oil, palm oil, and palm kernel oil, are high in saturated fats and for nutritional purposes should be considered to be solid fats."
How about what I asked above?
Are we again saying saturated fat is bad but not because of vitamins and minerals it's lacking? After your reply I see that it is just the fact that it's saturated fat that makes it empty, what about the role of saturated fat that is link to testosterone?
And please don't reference me back to myplate, give me your answer.
I don't have an answer-I have no horse in that race and no interest in it. The most I know about it is that I consume it when I use coconut oil, and it doesn't bother me. I linked you back to MyPlate because that was the source of this topic, so any claims are their's, not mine. I'm not sure that they are saying that they are bad and never to be consumed. They are saying that as they offer limited nutritional value, for the average person in the population they are targeting, they are something that can be moderated (through portion or lower fat versions.)
I'm not sure I'm being clear, so this is what I believe they are saying as applied to me: "Maitria's favorite way to eat tofu is deep-fried. Unfortunately, frying the tofu adds hundreds of calories that she does not have room for most of the time if she wants to have well-rounded nutrition. Maitria can limit the frequency of how often she eats deep-fried tofu and most of the time opt for tofu prepared some other way. Or, Maitria can become more active to allow for the "empty calories" more often."
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I should have been obese by now with the amount of empty calories I eat on a daily basis.
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Well, only if you moved the goal posts and cherry-picked from the snippet rather than the totality of what they actually say. Here, this should help: "The limit for empty calories is based on estimated calorie needs by age/gender group. Physical activity increases calorie needs, so those who are more physically active need more total calories and have a larger limit for empty calories."0 -
I should have been obese by now with the amount of empty calories I eat on a daily basis.
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Well, only if you moved the goal posts and cherry-picked from the snippet rather than the totality of what they actually say. Here, this should help: "The limit for empty calories is based on estimated calorie needs by age/gender group. Physical activity increases calorie needs, so those who are more physically active need more total calories and have a larger limit for empty calories."
I noticed the totality of what they said.
I still didn't like what they said because it's dumbed down and overly simplistic, thus not worth defending.
The phrase "empty calorie" itself is faulty, and then the guidelines about eating them get really
vague.
MrM has a point. If we're going to judge the worthiness of a food's place in our diets, iceberg lettuce and cucumbers should be on the empty calories list for the relative lack of nutrition the provide, since that seems to be the definition of "empty calorie", per the government.
It's a meaningless, arbitrary term.
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mamapeach910 wrote: »I should have been obese by now with the amount of empty calories I eat on a daily basis.
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Well, only if you moved the goal posts and cherry-picked from the snippet rather than the totality of what they actually say. Here, this should help: "The limit for empty calories is based on estimated calorie needs by age/gender group. Physical activity increases calorie needs, so those who are more physically active need more total calories and have a larger limit for empty calories."
I noticed the totality of what they said.
I still didn't like what they said because it's dumbed down and overly simplistic, thus not worth defending.
The phrase "empty calorie" itself is faulty, and then the guidelines about eating them get really vague.
Definitely a case for agree to disagree.
I personally think MyPlate is a great resource for a lot of people. It's target is likely not the people who already understand it all. 0 -
What exactly is "solid fat"? What foods would be an example of something that contains a "not solid fat" that would apparently not be an empty calorie? Confused.lemurcat12 wrote: »Also, nice to know that I added some "empty calories" to my omelet this morning (feta cheese).
Cheese is so not empty! I don't even love cheese very much, but I rely on it to help me reach my protein goals as well as my calcium. Bang for the buck, people!
Hi,
You can get the daily amount of calcium through a tablespoon of sesame and linseed omega 3 by a soup spoon. the protein you can get from broccoli .
I stopped drinking milk because several negative studies , and I chose to make my own almond milk with honey and pure cocoa .
please link us to the negative studies….
Hi,
here is one from sweden:
http://www.bmj.com/content/349/bmj.g6015
That is probably the weirdest study I've ever seen. I don't even know where to begin.
This study made the spotlight in many newschannels in europe.
Why do you think is weird?
I view some good points:
- Made by sweden
- made by a public, independent organism
- objective
The "Chocolate for weightloss" study made spotlight in many newschannels too...0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »I should have been obese by now with the amount of empty calories I eat on a daily basis.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Well, only if you moved the goal posts and cherry-picked from the snippet rather than the totality of what they actually say. Here, this should help: "The limit for empty calories is based on estimated calorie needs by age/gender group. Physical activity increases calorie needs, so those who are more physically active need more total calories and have a larger limit for empty calories."
I noticed the totality of what they said.
I still didn't like what they said because it's dumbed down and overly simplistic, thus not worth defending.
The phrase "empty calorie" itself is faulty, and then the guidelines about eating them get really
vague.
MrM has a point. If we're going to judge the worthiness of a food's place in our diets, iceberg lettuce and cucumbers should be on the empty calories list for the relative lack of nutrition the provide, since that seems to be the definition of "empty calorie", per the government.
It's a meaningless, arbitrary term.
Agreed. It just makes you full but gives you nothing nutritionally, making it harder to hit your goals of the day because you are going to have more problems eating anything after filling up on that.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »I should have been obese by now with the amount of empty calories I eat on a daily basis.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Well, only if you moved the goal posts and cherry-picked from the snippet rather than the totality of what they actually say. Here, this should help: "The limit for empty calories is based on estimated calorie needs by age/gender group. Physical activity increases calorie needs, so those who are more physically active need more total calories and have a larger limit for empty calories."
I noticed the totality of what they said.
I still didn't like what they said because it's dumbed down and overly simplistic, thus not worth defending.
The phrase "empty calorie" itself is faulty, and then the guidelines about eating them get really
vague.
MrM has a point. If we're going to judge the worthiness of a food's place in our diets, iceberg lettuce and cucumbers should be on the empty calories list for the relative lack of nutrition the provide, since that seems to be the definition of "empty calorie", per the government.
It's a meaningless, arbitrary term.
Agreed. It just makes you full but gives you nothing nutritionally, making it harder to hit your goals of the day because you are going to have more problems eating anything after filling up on that.
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isulo_kura wrote: »It's a stupid term. If something has calories it provides energy so therefore is not empty.
This.
My own empty calorie list:
1.Cucumbers
2.Cucumbers
Empty of taste full of snaily sadness for few calories.0 -
WOW--This thread took off!! I just ate 752 calories for breakfast and I'm counting every last one and so should everyone who wants to control their weight0
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What exactly is "solid fat"? What foods would be an example of something that contains a "not solid fat" that would apparently not be an empty calorie? Confused.lemurcat12 wrote: »Also, nice to know that I added some "empty calories" to my omelet this morning (feta cheese).
Cheese is so not empty! I don't even love cheese very much, but I rely on it to help me reach my protein goals as well as my calcium. Bang for the buck, people!
Hi,
You can get the daily amount of calcium through a tablespoon of sesame and linseed omega 3 by a soup spoon. the protein you can get from broccoli .
I stopped drinking milk because several negative studies , and I chose to make my own almond milk with honey and pure cocoa .
How much broccoli would I have to eat to get 8 grams of protein?0 -
The term "empty calories" is so misleading.0
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mistikal13 wrote: »The term "empty calories" is so misleading.
Yes. It is intentionally pejorative. As is "junk food".0
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