Is it worth it to quit diet soda? Have you?
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Leslierussell4134 wrote: »I'm not rating one artifical sweetener over another, but as a group, I've come to understand that consuming them fools the body into thinking we are taking in sugar, stimulating insulin production and excretion. When the blood sugar doesn't go up, the brain does kind of a double take and say to the liver...there's no sugar, quick give us some sugar to meet the insulin we just made so we don't crash into hypoglycemia. Well some doctors believe, I believe Dr. Oz mentions this on his show as well, I'm that it may lead to a rebound type to diabetes from liver and pancreas over stimulation. I tend to believe this theory.
But diet soda is recommended to diabetics so this doesn't even make any sense . . .0 -
Leslierussell4134 wrote: »I'm not rating one artifical sweetener over another, but as a group, I've come to understand that consuming them fools the body into thinking we are taking in sugar, stimulating insulin production and excretion. When the blood sugar doesn't go up, the brain does kind of a double take and say to the liver...there's no sugar, quick give us some sugar to meet the insulin we just made so we don't crash into hypoglycemia. Well some doctors believe, I believe Dr. Oz mentions this on his show as well, I'm that it may lead to a rebound type to diabetes from liver and pancreas over stimulation. I tend to believe this theory.
The study to which you are referring has been debunked many times. Your body just doesn't work that way. However, if you personally feel like it makes you hungrier, then avoid it. It doesn't have that affect on everyone.
Also, disregard anything that Dr. Oz says. I'd listen to my cat's advice before I'd listen to his. The guy is a moron and a shill.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »I'm not rating one artifical sweetener over another, but as a group, I've come to understand that consuming them fools the body into thinking we are taking in sugar, stimulating insulin production and excretion. When the blood sugar doesn't go up, the brain does kind of a double take and say to the liver...there's no sugar, quick give us some sugar to meet the insulin we just made so we don't crash into hypoglycemia. Well some doctors believe, I believe Dr. Oz mentions this on his show as well, I'm that it may lead to a rebound type to diabetes from liver and pancreas over stimulation. I tend to believe this theory.
The study to which you are referring has been debunked many times. Your body just doesn't work that way. However, if you personally feel like it makes you hungrier, then avoid it. It doesn't have that affect on everyone.
Also, disregard anything that Dr. Oz says. I'd listen to my cat's advice before I'd listen to his. The guy is a moron and a shill.
The great thing about theory is that it's just that, a theory. I'm the type of person that asks a lot of questions, researches and then forms an opinion. When I see patients in my practice I can also collect objective data and keep it stored in my long term memory for topics such as these. So i'll continue to think this until something else makes better sense to me. All doctors practice differently and Dr. Oz is still a doctor whom I mostly respect. Great thing about America, don't like your doctor, you can get a second opinion :-)
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Leslierussell4134 wrote: »I'm not rating one artifical sweetener over another, but as a group, I've come to understand that consuming them fools the body into thinking we are taking in sugar, stimulating insulin production and excretion. When the blood sugar doesn't go up, the brain does kind of a double take and say to the liver...there's no sugar, quick give us some sugar to meet the insulin we just made so we don't crash into hypoglycemia. Well some doctors believe, I believe Dr. Oz mentions this on his show as well, I'm that it may lead to a rebound type to diabetes from liver and pancreas over stimulation. I tend to believe this theory.
But diet soda is recommended to diabetics so this doesn't even make any sense . . .
It's not that diabetics are recommended to drink diet soda, it's just that if you must drink soda, diabetics are advised to drink diet. Many doctors would likely recommend other beverages instead if asked which were suitable.0 -
Leslierussell4134 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »I'm not rating one artifical sweetener over another, but as a group, I've come to understand that consuming them fools the body into thinking we are taking in sugar, stimulating insulin production and excretion. When the blood sugar doesn't go up, the brain does kind of a double take and say to the liver...there's no sugar, quick give us some sugar to meet the insulin we just made so we don't crash into hypoglycemia. Well some doctors believe, I believe Dr. Oz mentions this on his show as well, I'm that it may lead to a rebound type to diabetes from liver and pancreas over stimulation. I tend to believe this theory.
The study to which you are referring has been debunked many times. Your body just doesn't work that way. However, if you personally feel like it makes you hungrier, then avoid it. It doesn't have that affect on everyone.
Also, disregard anything that Dr. Oz says. I'd listen to my cat's advice before I'd listen to his. The guy is a moron and a shill.
The great thing about theory is that it's just that, a theory. I'm the type of person that asks a lot of questions, researches and then forms an opinion. When I see patients in my practice I can also collect objective data and keep it stored in my long term memory for topics such as these. So i'll continue to think this until something else makes better sense to me. All doctors practice differently and Dr. Oz is still a doctor whom I mostly respect. Great thing about America, don't like your doctor, you can get a second opinion :-)
Level 1 clinical studies trump personal anecdotes.
Calorie free sweeteners do not impact insulin or insulin sensitivity at the cell level.0 -
Leslierussell4134 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »I'm not rating one artifical sweetener over another, but as a group, I've come to understand that consuming them fools the body into thinking we are taking in sugar, stimulating insulin production and excretion. When the blood sugar doesn't go up, the brain does kind of a double take and say to the liver...there's no sugar, quick give us some sugar to meet the insulin we just made so we don't crash into hypoglycemia. Well some doctors believe, I believe Dr. Oz mentions this on his show as well, I'm that it may lead to a rebound type to diabetes from liver and pancreas over stimulation. I tend to believe this theory.
The study to which you are referring has been debunked many times. Your body just doesn't work that way. However, if you personally feel like it makes you hungrier, then avoid it. It doesn't have that affect on everyone.
Also, disregard anything that Dr. Oz says. I'd listen to my cat's advice before I'd listen to his. The guy is a moron and a shill.
The great thing about theory is that it's just that, a theory. I'm the type of person that asks a lot of questions, researches and then forms an opinion. When I see patients in my practice I can also collect objective data and keep it stored in my long term memory for topics such as these. So i'll continue to think this until something else makes better sense to me. All doctors practice differently and Dr. Oz is still a doctor whom I mostly respect. Great thing about America, don't like your doctor, you can get a second opinion :-)
When you ask questions and do all of this research, do you read actual studies, or do you read articles and opinion pieces that cherry-pick studies and completely misinterpret and manipulate the information contained in them to push their agenda? If you want to believe that theory for yourself, then that's fine. But there is no scientific reason to take that paint brush and go slathering it all over the place as if it applies to everyone. That's ridiculous.
And you respect a doctor who pushes any supplement that he can make a buck off of, who has been publicly labeled as a quack by Congress, and who has been asked to give up his medical license by literally thousands of doctors? Really?0 -
pollypocket1021 wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »I'm not rating one artifical sweetener over another, but as a group, I've come to understand that consuming them fools the body into thinking we are taking in sugar, stimulating insulin production and excretion. When the blood sugar doesn't go up, the brain does kind of a double take and say to the liver...there's no sugar, quick give us some sugar to meet the insulin we just made so we don't crash into hypoglycemia. Well some doctors believe, I believe Dr. Oz mentions this on his show as well, I'm that it may lead to a rebound type to diabetes from liver and pancreas over stimulation. I tend to believe this theory.
The study to which you are referring has been debunked many times. Your body just doesn't work that way. However, if you personally feel like it makes you hungrier, then avoid it. It doesn't have that affect on everyone.
Also, disregard anything that Dr. Oz says. I'd listen to my cat's advice before I'd listen to his. The guy is a moron and a shill.
The great thing about theory is that it's just that, a theory. I'm the type of person that asks a lot of questions, researches and then forms an opinion. When I see patients in my practice I can also collect objective data and keep it stored in my long term memory for topics such as these. So i'll continue to think this until something else makes better sense to me. All doctors practice differently and Dr. Oz is still a doctor whom I mostly respect. Great thing about America, don't like your doctor, you can get a second opinion :-)
Level 1 clinical studies trump personal anecdotes.
Calorie free sweeteners do not impact insulin or insulin sensitivity at the cell level.
Having an opinion is fun, because no one can take it away from you without presenting their belief in a constructive way, with evidence. If you preformed the clinical trials yourself please send me the link and I'll be happy to educate myself. Until then I respect the doctors I work with, the research I do and the patients we treat.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »I'm not rating one artifical sweetener over another, but as a group, I've come to understand that consuming them fools the body into thinking we are taking in sugar, stimulating insulin production and excretion. When the blood sugar doesn't go up, the brain does kind of a double take and say to the liver...there's no sugar, quick give us some sugar to meet the insulin we just made so we don't crash into hypoglycemia. Well some doctors believe, I believe Dr. Oz mentions this on his show as well, I'm that it may lead to a rebound type to diabetes from liver and pancreas over stimulation. I tend to believe this theory.
The study to which you are referring has been debunked many times. Your body just doesn't work that way. However, if you personally feel like it makes you hungrier, then avoid it. It doesn't have that affect on everyone.
Also, disregard anything that Dr. Oz says. I'd listen to my cat's advice before I'd listen to his. The guy is a moron and a shill.
The great thing about theory is that it's just that, a theory. I'm the type of person that asks a lot of questions, researches and then forms an opinion. When I see patients in my practice I can also collect objective data and keep it stored in my long term memory for topics such as these. So i'll continue to think this until something else makes better sense to me. All doctors practice differently and Dr. Oz is still a doctor whom I mostly respect. Great thing about America, don't like your doctor, you can get a second opinion :-)
When you ask questions and do all of this research, do you read actual studies, or do you read articles and opinion pieces that cherry-pick studies and completely misinterpret and manipulate the information contained in them to push their agenda? If you want to believe that theory for yourself, then that's fine. But there is no scientific reason to take that paint brush and go slathering it all over the place as if it applies to everyone. That's ridiculous.
And you respect a doctor who pushes any supplement that he can make a buck off of, who has been publicly labeled as a quack by Congress, and who has been asked to give up his medical license by literally thousands of doctors? Really?
The great thing about journals is that for each one that says do this not that, two more will be published to counter. I read mostly from Medline, articles from PubMed and the NIH and other nursing journals. It's always changing. Another example is the recent cholesterol dietary guidelines. I'm sure some doctors with disagree and still advise their patients to limits eggs and red meat and stick below 300mg per day. Then there will be the others that say dietary cholesterol shouldn't be a nutrient to monitor any further. Who's right, who's wrong? Will we ever know for sure? Maybe, maybe not.0 -
Leslierussell4134 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »I'm not rating one artifical sweetener over another, but as a group, I've come to understand that consuming them fools the body into thinking we are taking in sugar, stimulating insulin production and excretion. When the blood sugar doesn't go up, the brain does kind of a double take and say to the liver...there's no sugar, quick give us some sugar to meet the insulin we just made so we don't crash into hypoglycemia. Well some doctors believe, I believe Dr. Oz mentions this on his show as well, I'm that it may lead to a rebound type to diabetes from liver and pancreas over stimulation. I tend to believe this theory.
The study to which you are referring has been debunked many times. Your body just doesn't work that way. However, if you personally feel like it makes you hungrier, then avoid it. It doesn't have that affect on everyone.
Also, disregard anything that Dr. Oz says. I'd listen to my cat's advice before I'd listen to his. The guy is a moron and a shill.
The great thing about theory is that it's just that, a theory. I'm the type of person that asks a lot of questions, researches and then forms an opinion. When I see patients in my practice I can also collect objective data and keep it stored in my long term memory for topics such as these. So i'll continue to think this until something else makes better sense to me. All doctors practice differently and Dr. Oz is still a doctor whom I mostly respect. Great thing about America, don't like your doctor, you can get a second opinion :-)
When you ask questions and do all of this research, do you read actual studies, or do you read articles and opinion pieces that cherry-pick studies and completely misinterpret and manipulate the information contained in them to push their agenda? If you want to believe that theory for yourself, then that's fine. But there is no scientific reason to take that paint brush and go slathering it all over the place as if it applies to everyone. That's ridiculous.
And you respect a doctor who pushes any supplement that he can make a buck off of, who has been publicly labeled as a quack by Congress, and who has been asked to give up his medical license by literally thousands of doctors? Really?
The great thing about journals is that for each one that says do this not that, two more will be published to counter. I read mostly from Medline, articles from PubMed and the NIH and other nursing journals. It's always changing. Another example is the recent cholesterol dietary guidelines. I'm sure some doctors with disagree and still advise their patients to limits eggs and red meat and stick below 300mg per day. Then there will be the others that say dietary cholesterol shouldn't be a nutrient to monitor any further. Who's right, who's wrong? Will we ever know for sure? Maybe, maybe not.
If someone is at a healthy weight, takes care of their teeth, is active, and eats a balanced diet while meating their macro targets for the day, what is the harm of having some soda/diet soda?
No one is going to have a 100% perfect diet. There is no such thing as a 100% perfect diet. There's no reason to completely avoid soda (or cholesterol, or sodium, or sugar, or artificial sweeteners - take your pick) if you're otherwise healthy. If you can't control your eating after having a diet soda, then there is no reason to project your issues onto everyone else. That is all anyone here is saying.0 -
A 6 pack a day sounds terribly excessive, not to mention expensive. What a waste of money!
There's nothing wrong with diet soda, but too much of anything in never a good idea.0 -
Losingthedamnweight wrote: »Has anybody here quit drinking it and felt better? Or different at all?
I haven't had a diet soda, or any sweetened soda, for years. Now, I can't stand the taste. Way too sweet. I have probably saved money, I don't crave sugar or sweets, and I don't get insomnia (like I did when I drank soda, which is often consumed in the afternoon or evening)--I'd wager these benefits are from drinking water instead of soda.
I've also never had tooth decay nor have I ever been overweight in my entire life, but I can't claim either of these benefits are or are not because I don't drink soda.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »I'm not rating one artifical sweetener over another, but as a group, I've come to understand that consuming them fools the body into thinking we are taking in sugar, stimulating insulin production and excretion. When the blood sugar doesn't go up, the brain does kind of a double take and say to the liver...there's no sugar, quick give us some sugar to meet the insulin we just made so we don't crash into hypoglycemia. Well some doctors believe, I believe Dr. Oz mentions this on his show as well, I'm that it may lead to a rebound type to diabetes from liver and pancreas over stimulation. I tend to believe this theory.
The study to which you are referring has been debunked many times. Your body just doesn't work that way. However, if you personally feel like it makes you hungrier, then avoid it. It doesn't have that affect on everyone.
Also, disregard anything that Dr. Oz says. I'd listen to my cat's advice before I'd listen to his. The guy is a moron and a shill.
The great thing about theory is that it's just that, a theory. I'm the type of person that asks a lot of questions, researches and then forms an opinion. When I see patients in my practice I can also collect objective data and keep it stored in my long term memory for topics such as these. So i'll continue to think this until something else makes better sense to me. All doctors practice differently and Dr. Oz is still a doctor whom I mostly respect. Great thing about America, don't like your doctor, you can get a second opinion :-)
When you ask questions and do all of this research, do you read actual studies, or do you read articles and opinion pieces that cherry-pick studies and completely misinterpret and manipulate the information contained in them to push their agenda? If you want to believe that theory for yourself, then that's fine. But there is no scientific reason to take that paint brush and go slathering it all over the place as if it applies to everyone. That's ridiculous.
And you respect a doctor who pushes any supplement that he can make a buck off of, who has been publicly labeled as a quack by Congress, and who has been asked to give up his medical license by literally thousands of doctors? Really?
The great thing about journals is that for each one that says do this not that, two more will be published to counter. I read mostly from Medline, articles from PubMed and the NIH and other nursing journals. It's always changing. Another example is the recent cholesterol dietary guidelines. I'm sure some doctors with disagree and still advise their patients to limits eggs and red meat and stick below 300mg per day. Then there will be the others that say dietary cholesterol shouldn't be a nutrient to monitor any further. Who's right, who's wrong? Will we ever know for sure? Maybe, maybe not.
If someone is at a healthy weight, takes care of their teeth, is active, and eats a balanced diet while meating their macro targets for the day, what is the harm of having some soda/diet soda?
No one is going to have a 100% perfect diet. There is no such thing as a 100% perfect diet. There's no reason to completely avoid soda (or cholesterol, or sodium, or sugar, or artificial sweeteners - take your pick) if you're otherwise healthy. If you can't control your eating after having a diet soda, then there is no reason to project your issues onto everyone else. That is all anyone here is saying.
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Diet soda made me fat.
I mean, it's not like it was the pizza and hostess....right?0 -
Diet soda contains phosphoric acid and citric acid, both are bad for your teeth. Just google it.0
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i stopped drinking it, had 1 can a day usually.
Now none, i feel better too.
Dont crave it anymore
Feel much fresher0 -
if i really want a soda il have one with real sugar and leave it at that0
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6 a day is way to much, unless its water you should not be drinking 6 a day of anything really.
Moderation0 -
Once again, i ask myself what do they put in this stuff that folks can't go a day without a drink...
This alone is enough to put me off of trying diet soda. I'm happy with my one glass of lemon squash, barely once a month!0 -
christinev297 wrote: »Once again, i ask myself what do they put in this stuff that folks can't go a day without a drink...
This alone is enough to put me off of trying diet soda. I'm happy with my one glass of lemon squash, barely once a month!
Once again, it's caffeine. Caffeine is addictive.0 -
christinev297 wrote: »Once again, i ask myself what do they put in this stuff that folks can't go a day without a drink...
This alone is enough to put me off of trying diet soda. I'm happy with my one glass of lemon squash, barely once a month!
Once again, it's caffeine. Caffeine is addictive.
oh that's right, oops
I just hope that's all it is..
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I don't believe it's just the caffeine. I used to drink one can every night which about the same caffeine as a chocolate bar. And no other soft drink would hit the spot for me.
I gave it up and I feel better for it. Mostly because i replaced that cola with more water which lead to better hydration. I also saved a lot more money than I thought I would! My partner gave it up too and we save £5 every meal out because we get water instead.
Personally, I had got to the stage I drank so little that I thought it wasn't worth the money, dental issues etc. Also, the research is debatable enough to worry me. I think believing that research into this stuff is completely objective and uninfluenced by corperations/government could be naive.0 -
Leslierussell4134 wrote: »I'm not rating one artifical sweetener over another, but as a group, I've come to understand that consuming them fools the body into thinking we are taking in sugar, stimulating insulin production and excretion. When the blood sugar doesn't go up, the brain does kind of a double take and say to the liver...there's no sugar, quick give us some sugar to meet the insulin we just made so we don't crash into hypoglycemia. Well some doctors believe, I believe Dr. Oz mentions this on his show as well, I'm that it may lead to a rebound type to diabetes from liver and pancreas over stimulation. I tend to believe this theory.
Well, the actual experts on diabetes say that theory is wrong, and actually advice to drink diet sodas instead of regular soda if you have diabetes.0 -
Leslierussell4134 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »I'm not rating one artifical sweetener over another, but as a group, I've come to understand that consuming them fools the body into thinking we are taking in sugar, stimulating insulin production and excretion. When the blood sugar doesn't go up, the brain does kind of a double take and say to the liver...there's no sugar, quick give us some sugar to meet the insulin we just made so we don't crash into hypoglycemia. Well some doctors believe, I believe Dr. Oz mentions this on his show as well, I'm that it may lead to a rebound type to diabetes from liver and pancreas over stimulation. I tend to believe this theory.
The study to which you are referring has been debunked many times. Your body just doesn't work that way. However, if you personally feel like it makes you hungrier, then avoid it. It doesn't have that affect on everyone.
Also, disregard anything that Dr. Oz says. I'd listen to my cat's advice before I'd listen to his. The guy is a moron and a shill.
The great thing about theory is that it's just that, a theory. I'm the type of person that asks a lot of questions, researches and then forms an opinion. When I see patients in my practice I can also collect objective data and keep it stored in my long term memory for topics such as these. So i'll continue to think this until something else makes better sense to me. All doctors practice differently and Dr. Oz is still a doctor whom I mostly respect. Great thing about America, don't like your doctor, you can get a second opinion :-)
Here's a read.
http://examine.com/faq/do-artificial-sweeteners-spike-insulin/0 -
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It's something I'm not bothered about cutting out. The most I tend to have in a day is 3 cans of diet Pepsi/Coke and I used to drink regular Coke like it was water so I'm fine with a couple of cans of diet soda every day. I know the bad sides of drinking diet soda but there's also a lot of research out there that suggests its all BS anyway so it's difficult. But I enjoy drinking it so...*shrug*0
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tedboosalis7 wrote: »Sarasmaintaining wrote: »lacusfitness wrote: »My opinion. Ditch the soda. I used to drink pepsi a lot but eventually I cut down & now I don't touch it. Saved me a lot of calories & sugar. Also diet drinks aren't the best thing to drink. In some ways they can be worse than the non diet soda plus it doesn't really do anything for you. Soda just gets you hyper & makes you crave more of it. It can also help with weight loss to get rid of it as well as it will save you lots of money.
The only thing you're correct on is the saving money part. Otherwise, No.
Absolutely not! Soda is dumb. There's no nutritional value density wise in the thing - it can cause weight gain, rots teeth, it's sick stuff. I cannot believe there are people on here who espouse drinking soda is fine as long as it fits into your macros. That's BS. Soda is awful stuff. No debate and plenty of evidence - and screw the "show me" crap.
Watch it.
Just because you have issues with soda, doesn't mean other people do. I lost almost 60lbs while drinking diet soda, have successfully been maintaining the loss for two years now, and I'm in excellent health by every marker my doctor goes by. Every.Single.One.
I drink diet soda because I enjoy the taste of it. Simple as that. Diet soda has not had any adverse affects on me at all. None.0 -
Leslierussell4134 wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »I'm not rating one artifical sweetener over another, but as a group, I've come to understand that consuming them fools the body into thinking we are taking in sugar, stimulating insulin production and excretion. When the blood sugar doesn't go up, the brain does kind of a double take and say to the liver...there's no sugar, quick give us some sugar to meet the insulin we just made so we don't crash into hypoglycemia. Well some doctors believe, I believe Dr. Oz mentions this on his show as well, I'm that it may lead to a rebound type to diabetes from liver and pancreas over stimulation. I tend to believe this theory.
But diet soda is recommended to diabetics so this doesn't even make any sense . . .
It's not that diabetics are recommended to drink diet soda, it's just that if you must drink soda, diabetics are advised to drink diet. Many doctors would likely recommend other beverages instead if asked which were suitable.
I had my yearly appointment last month with my doctor and she had no problem at all with me drinking diet soda when we talked about it. She also complimented me on how healthy I was and told me to keep doing what I was doing, because it was working so well.
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Leslierussell4134 wrote: »pollypocket1021 wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »I'm not rating one artifical sweetener over another, but as a group, I've come to understand that consuming them fools the body into thinking we are taking in sugar, stimulating insulin production and excretion. When the blood sugar doesn't go up, the brain does kind of a double take and say to the liver...there's no sugar, quick give us some sugar to meet the insulin we just made so we don't crash into hypoglycemia. Well some doctors believe, I believe Dr. Oz mentions this on his show as well, I'm that it may lead to a rebound type to diabetes from liver and pancreas over stimulation. I tend to believe this theory.
The study to which you are referring has been debunked many times. Your body just doesn't work that way. However, if you personally feel like it makes you hungrier, then avoid it. It doesn't have that affect on everyone.
Also, disregard anything that Dr. Oz says. I'd listen to my cat's advice before I'd listen to his. The guy is a moron and a shill.
The great thing about theory is that it's just that, a theory. I'm the type of person that asks a lot of questions, researches and then forms an opinion. When I see patients in my practice I can also collect objective data and keep it stored in my long term memory for topics such as these. So i'll continue to think this until something else makes better sense to me. All doctors practice differently and Dr. Oz is still a doctor whom I mostly respect. Great thing about America, don't like your doctor, you can get a second opinion :-)
Level 1 clinical studies trump personal anecdotes.
Calorie free sweeteners do not impact insulin or insulin sensitivity at the cell level.
Having an opinion is fun, because no one can take it away from you without presenting their belief in a constructive way, with evidence. If you preformed the clinical trials yourself please send me the link and I'll be happy to educate myself. Until then I respect the doctors I work with, the research I do and the patients we treat.
1. http://ajpgi.physiology.org/content/296/4/G735
2. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195666310000826
Here is the peer reviewed and published literature that support my statement.
I've only seen you on the forum for about a day, but I've noticed a HUGE double standard where you assert your opinion as fact, demand that everyone respect your 'authoritay' as a 'nurse' and then when you are challenged with actual facts and your lack of real experience you fall back on "we're all entitled to our opinions
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Next time, find some research of your own before you spout of misinformation. And peer reviewed journals carry a little more weight that Dr. Oz.0 -
Despite research claiming all the negative effects that Diet Soda could potentially give you (see health dot com for some of the claims) for my reasons and purposes I have not given up Diet Soda. During one of my more successful cuts, I used Diet Soda to help "top me off" when it comes to satiety. It helped me feel more full after a meal, it also helps me during snacking times. I've gone from 210 to 168 while drinking diet soda, so I don't think it's going to stunt weight loss. At least for my case.0
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pollypocket1021 wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »pollypocket1021 wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Leslierussell4134 wrote: »I'm not rating one artifical sweetener over another, but as a group, I've come to understand that consuming them fools the body into thinking we are taking in sugar, stimulating insulin production and excretion. When the blood sugar doesn't go up, the brain does kind of a double take and say to the liver...there's no sugar, quick give us some sugar to meet the insulin we just made so we don't crash into hypoglycemia. Well some doctors believe, I believe Dr. Oz mentions this on his show as well, I'm that it may lead to a rebound type to diabetes from liver and pancreas over stimulation. I tend to believe this theory.
The study to which you are referring has been debunked many times. Your body just doesn't work that way. However, if you personally feel like it makes you hungrier, then avoid it. It doesn't have that affect on everyone.
Also, disregard anything that Dr. Oz says. I'd listen to my cat's advice before I'd listen to his. The guy is a moron and a shill.
The great thing about theory is that it's just that, a theory. I'm the type of person that asks a lot of questions, researches and then forms an opinion. When I see patients in my practice I can also collect objective data and keep it stored in my long term memory for topics such as these. So i'll continue to think this until something else makes better sense to me. All doctors practice differently and Dr. Oz is still a doctor whom I mostly respect. Great thing about America, don't like your doctor, you can get a second opinion :-)
Level 1 clinical studies trump personal anecdotes.
Calorie free sweeteners do not impact insulin or insulin sensitivity at the cell level.
Having an opinion is fun, because no one can take it away from you without presenting their belief in a constructive way, with evidence. If you preformed the clinical trials yourself please send me the link and I'll be happy to educate myself. Until then I respect the doctors I work with, the research I do and the patients we treat.
1. http://ajpgi.physiology.org/content/296/4/G735
2. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195666310000826
Here is the peer reviewed and published literature that support my statement.
I've only seen you on the forum for about a day, but I've noticed a HUGE double standard where you assert your opinion as fact, demand that everyone respect your 'authoritay' as a 'nurse' and then when you are challenged with actual facts and your lack of real experience you fall back on "we're all entitled to our opinions "
Next time, find some research of your own before you spout of misinformation. And peer reviewed journals carry a little more weight that Dr. Oz.
I went back and looked at a handful of those posts. Wow, what an attitude.0
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