CAN'T Give up CANDY!!!!

saraonly9913

Ok. I think I can understand sugar not being addictive but I believe chicolate is.

Chrysalid2014

ndj1979 wrote: »

i am just going to put this here..
http://www.clinicalnutritionjournal.com/article/S0261-5614(09)00239-8/abstract
Methods
By considering the relevant literature a series of predictions were examined, derived from the hypothesis that addiction to sucrose consumption can develop. Fasting should increase food cravings, predominantly for sweet items; cravings should occur after an overnight fast; the obese should find sweetness particularly attractive; a high-sugar consumption should predispose to obesity. More specifically predictions based on the hypothesis that addiction to sugar is central to bingeing disorders were developed. Dieting should predate the development of bingeing; dietary style rather than psychological, social and economic factors should be predispose to eating disorders; sweet items should be preferentially consumed while bingeing; opioid antagonists should cause withdrawal symptoms; bingeing should develop at a younger age when there is a greater preference for sweetness.

Results
The above predications have in common that on no occasion was the behaviour predicted by an animal model of sucrose addiction supported by human studies.

Conclusion
There is no support from the human literature for the hypothesis that sucrose may be physically addictive or that addiction to sugar plays a role in eating disorders.

I believe this is the paper that was funded by the World Sugar Research Organization (an international scientific research organisation supported by the sugar industry globally). Correct me if I'm wrong.

That doesn’t mean it’s necessarily biased, of course.

WinoGelato

joaniee2003 wrote: »

Ok. I think I can understand sugar not being addictive but I believe chicolate is.

Based on what are you making that distinction?

NobodyPutsAmyInTheCorner

I tell you what is sneaky and evil... I used to work for McDonalds. The buns are toasted and "caramelised" to give a sweeter taste to make you want more. I used to crave burgers on my days off. It was more than a little creepy. I wouldn't say I was addicted but it definitely makes you think. Companies can be crafty

juliebowman4

I suppose......it depends on how one defines addiction in the first place.
As a person who has dealt with the obsession and compulsion to use and abuse a number of substances, in spite of negative consequences.....I can buy that 'some' people could define themselves as being addicted to sugar.

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juliebowman4

I love this.......you can insert 'cookies' for alcohol/cocaine/cigarettes/money.....
I simply live with a concerted effort to not be owned by any substance anymore.


You go into the kitchen, and there is a plate of cookies on the counter.

When you see the cookies you want one. That is an impulse.

Although it may require some effort and it may be uncomfortable to do so, you, on your own, can choose to quell the impulse.

_________________________

You go into the kitchen, and there is a plate of cookies on the counter.

You eat all the cookies without thinking. That is a compulsion.

You will likely need help to deal with your compulsion, but "human aide" through either behavioral or cognitive therapy, possibly in conjunction with a medication, can eventually help you see a plate of cookies and choose whether or not to have some.

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You go into the kitchen, and there is a plate of cookies on the counter.

You eat all the cookies whether they are yours or not, and then you drive all over town looking for bakeries and 24 hour supermarkets. When life prevents you from continuing your cookie search you spend a good amount of time thinking about cookies, justifying and/or hiding your behavior, and planning when and how you can get more cookies.

That is an obsession of the mind, and it is a key component of addiction.

MakePeasNotWar

senecarr wrote: »

ndj1979 wrote: »

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

stevencloser wrote: »

And we've got this week's "sugar is literally like cocaine" comparison.

Funny you should mention that. Look what I came across...

LOL

as someone else pointed out ..that is the same center that you get a pleasure reaction from petting puppies…

so are you addicted to petting puppy's too?

Really, if eliciting the same neurotransmitter means it must be the same feeling, this person's view of oxytocin must be disturbing.

I remember reading an article online claiming that because verbal abuse has a similar effect to physical abuse on the brain of the recipient, insulting someone was exactly the same as striking them. I considered trying this technique in my next bout (should work, right?), but in the end I decided to stick with the more traditional "punching and kicking" strategy.

Still, "TKO due to harsh invective" would have looked pretty badass on my record

Chrysalid2014

juliebowman4 wrote: »

I love this.......you can insert 'cookies' for alcohol/cocaine/cigarettes/money.....
I simply live with a concerted effort to not be owned by any substance anymore.


You go into the kitchen, and there is a plate of cookies on the counter.

When you see the cookies you want one. That is an impulse.

Although it may require some effort and it may be uncomfortable to do so, you, on your own, can choose to quell the impulse.

_________________________

You go into the kitchen, and there is a plate of cookies on the counter.

You eat all the cookies without thinking. That is a compulsion.

You will likely need help to deal with your compulsion, but "human aide" through either behavioral or cognitive therapy, possibly in conjunction with a medication, can eventually help you see a plate of cookies and choose whether or not to have some.

________________________________

You go into the kitchen, and there is a plate of cookies on the counter.

You eat all the cookies whether they are yours or not, and then you drive all over town looking for bakeries and 24 hour supermarkets. When life prevents you from continuing your cookie search you spend a good amount of time thinking about cookies, justifying and/or hiding your behavior, and planning when and how you can get more cookies.

That is an obsession of the mind, and it is a key component of addiction.

This is great.
I think a lot of people here who are 'against' the idea of sugar addiction have experienced scenarios 1 and/or 2 themselves and think that's what people are talking about when they say they are addicted to sugar.

Omar_Apocrypha

You can change the candy by fruits, as I chang it and the cola by milk , and I using a recipe that helped me to less my craving to sugar , which is
100 g of fresh parsley spring,
1 lemon without membrane
And 500 ml of water
In blender and drink it , I know its may not good taste but its working with me I dont know how is it with you .

PeachyCarol

senecarr wrote: »

ndj1979 wrote: »

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

stevencloser wrote: »

And we've got this week's "sugar is literally like cocaine" comparison.

Funny you should mention that. Look what I came across...

LOL

as someone else pointed out ..that is the same center that you get a pleasure reaction from petting puppies…

so are you addicted to petting puppy's too?

Really, if eliciting the same neurotransmitter means it must be the same feeling, this person's view of oxytocin must be disturbing.

I seriously almost laughed my laptop onto the floor.

LosingItForGood13

I have this problem so I bought snack size ziploc bags and whatever the amount to eat on the bag is that is what I place in my little snack bags for my treat and split the whole bag up equally

PeachyCarol

Uses the Yale FOOD Addiction Scale methodology to screen for addiction to petting puppies.

Seems legit.

The abstract for this, which is authored by the writers/researchers behind the Yale Food Addiction Scale, should convince you that the science behind this is still in the research phase. Nothing has been nailed down, @Chrysalid2014. Everything they've published says that their findings simply call for more research.

lemurcat12

NobodyPutsAmyInTheCorner wrote: »

I tell you what is sneaky and evil... I used to work for McDonalds. The buns are toasted and "caramelised" to give a sweeter taste to make you want more. I used to crave burgers on my days off. It was more than a little creepy. I wouldn't say I was addicted but it definitely makes you think. Companies can be crafty

Don't home cooks ever do that? Toasting buns really isn't that uncommon.

I almost never eat fast food (well, as I define it, I'm never sure precisely what's in the category) because I don't really think it tastes that good. I do go to all kinds of restaurants, both fine dining sorts and cool hole in the wall or ethnic places--where I live there are tons of good restaurants, annoyingly without calorie counts, of course--and I firmly expect them to use all the usual chef tricks to make the food taste as good as possible. If they didn't, why on earth would I want to eat out, if it was just like eating at home? (And I also do try to cook as well as possible at home, although I avoid higher calorie ingredients/amounts and have more control there, of course.)

I'm no apologist for McD's, but criticizing it for trying to make the food tastier seems wrong. At least, I wouldn't say that was creepy, I'd say it's one (small) way in which it's like any other restaurant/cook.

lemurcat12

Chrysalid2014 wrote: »

juliebowman4 wrote: »

I love this.......you can insert 'cookies' for alcohol/cocaine/cigarettes/money.....
I simply live with a concerted effort to not be owned by any substance anymore.


You go into the kitchen, and there is a plate of cookies on the counter.

When you see the cookies you want one. That is an impulse.

Although it may require some effort and it may be uncomfortable to do so, you, on your own, can choose to quell the impulse.

_________________________

You go into the kitchen, and there is a plate of cookies on the counter.

You eat all the cookies without thinking. That is a compulsion.

You will likely need help to deal with your compulsion, but "human aide" through either behavioral or cognitive therapy, possibly in conjunction with a medication, can eventually help you see a plate of cookies and choose whether or not to have some.

________________________________

You go into the kitchen, and there is a plate of cookies on the counter.

You eat all the cookies whether they are yours or not, and then you drive all over town looking for bakeries and 24 hour supermarkets. When life prevents you from continuing your cookie search you spend a good amount of time thinking about cookies, justifying and/or hiding your behavior, and planning when and how you can get more cookies.

That is an obsession of the mind, and it is a key component of addiction.

This is great.
I think a lot of people here who are 'against' the idea of sugar addiction have experienced scenarios 1 and/or 2 themselves and think that's what people are talking about when they say they are addicted to sugar.

It is true that I don't believe more than a very few people would experience anything like the latter and they are likely to have classified EDs (which is what that would be) or their reaction not be limited to "added sugar" (as with food addicts).

I do note that you are weirdly invested in claiming there's such a thing as "added sugar" addiction and that that's somehow why you need to lose weight and that everyone who mentions struggling with eating too many sweets must have it.