Under eating??

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  • AspenDan
    AspenDan Posts: 703 Member
    Having a giggle that bread and bbq sauce is now eating "clean" :D

    Just kidding OP, increase your calories to the 1700-1900 mark and you'll enjoy eating more and stick to it better long term. But please use the scale for every little thing and try to choose the items without an *

    Good point, but that's like..1/10th of my daily intake so thats 90% clean right? A- !

  • AspenDan
    AspenDan Posts: 703 Member

    That's what I was thinking, you aren't eating nearly enough in my opinion.[/quote]

    I guess that's what this thread was all started for. Everything tells me to eat more calories, but frankly, if I'm eating healthy things, it's very hard for me to eat anywhere near the 2500 calories all the resources recommend. I dunno...
  • Pootler74
    Pootler74 Posts: 223 Member
    edited June 2015
    Sometimes it's the little things that matter. I see that you're low on protein. Try buying protein powder or protein drinks. It will up your calories and will up your protein. I find that helps significantly.

    hmmm, protein powder...seems a bit much for me, maybe I'll try it out tho :]

    That's what I used to think - that people buying those 2kg tubs of protein powder were nuts. Then I tried it. Actually I tried a few before I found the ones that worked for me, in terms of price, calories, protein content etc. (Buying online is way cheaper than buying in a store btw) And then I discovered cookie dough Quest bars. Dear god.

    I've aimed for 100 or more grams of protein a day since, and I'm pretty sure it's helped me keep a lot of muscle - my body is pretty damn solid where the fat is mostly gone, and I don't lift seriously. Also protein keeps you fuller for longer, plus the bars and shakes satisfies a sweet tooth without just being empty calories.
  • jennifer_417
    jennifer_417 Posts: 12,344 Member
    Starvation mode, at least as it seems to be commonly understood, is a myth. Eating under 2500 calories won't hurt you. You are still at a point that you can create a pretty big deficit with no harm, but as you lose weight, you will need to create a smaller and smaller deficit, as the calories you need to maintain will become less.

    In other words, I think you're fine where you are, for now.
  • AspenDan
    AspenDan Posts: 703 Member
    Starvation mode, at least as it seems to be commonly understood, is a myth. Eating under 2500 calories won't hurt you. You are still at a point that you can create a pretty big deficit with no harm, but as you lose weight, you will need to create a smaller and smaller deficit, as the calories you need to maintain will become less.

    In other words, I think you're fine where you are, for now.

    "For now" so ominous! lol :P
  • missiontofitness
    missiontofitness Posts: 4,059 Member
    That's what I was thinking, you aren't eating nearly enough in my opinion.

    I guess that's what this thread was all started for. Everything tells me to eat more calories, but frankly, if I'm eating healthy things, it's very hard for me to eat anywhere near the 2500 calories all the resources recommend. I dunno...
    [/quote]

    Eat more calorically dense items! I would suggest peanut butter, but you already do that (and that is a very awesome choice IMHO). There are tons of ways to sneak in extra calories if you need them (like cooking with olive oil). You don't need to eat solely "healthy" items to lose weight. You just need to eat enough to keep yourself in a deficit. Peruse the recipe forum on here, and recipe sites to get inspiration for new ideas. Food doesn't need to be boring, and you can get creative to make food you will be jazzed to eat, and won't miss the stuff you "used to eat".

    Additionally, you don't need to cut anything out. Moderation takes practice, and it can be hard to tell yourself no when you want something. If you fit in things, like the burger you mentioned earlier, or one soda while you're out with friends at a restaurant every now and then, it won't hinder your weight loss in the long run. My friends on here can attest to the fact that I am guaranteed to have a Dunks iced butter pecan coffee in my diary every day, and while I have the hoard of Klondike bars that I got on sale in my freezer, at least 1 per day. I still balance that out with enough fruits, vegetables, fat, and protein in my day. Weight loss isn't about eating only "healthy" items. It's about creating sustainable changes for yourself that you can maintain after you reach your goal. Without fitting the items in that I want into my daily goals, I probably would have fallen off the wagon a long time ago.

    I've had multiple stints on this website since 2011, and I recently celebrated my 450 day streak on here. I used to go the 1,200/day route, the "clean eating" route, and overestimating my calorie burn/not weighing my food on a food scale route. None of those stuck for me. You need to figure out what works for you, and what you can do to hit your calorie goals, and reach your personal goals for weight loss.

    You've got this. Stick around here on these forums, read them, ask questions, and have an open mind like you have so far in this thread. We're here to help.
  • AspenDan
    AspenDan Posts: 703 Member

    Eat more calorically dense items! I would suggest peanut butter, but you already do that (and that is a very awesome choice IMHO). There are tons of ways to sneak in extra calories if you need them (like cooking with olive oil). You don't need to eat solely "healthy" items to lose weight. You just need to eat enough to keep yourself in a deficit. Peruse the recipe forum on here, and recipe sites to get inspiration for new ideas. Food doesn't need to be boring, and you can get creative to make food you will be jazzed to eat, and won't miss the stuff you "used to eat".

    Additionally, you don't need to cut anything out. Moderation takes practice, and it can be hard to tell yourself no when you want something. If you fit in things, like the burger you mentioned earlier, or one soda while you're out with friends at a restaurant every now and then, it won't hinder your weight loss in the long run. My friends on here can attest to the fact that I am guaranteed to have a Dunks iced butter pecan coffee in my diary every day, and while I have the hoard of Klondike bars that I got on sale in my freezer, at least 1 per day. I still balance that out with enough fruits, vegetables, fat, and protein in my day. Weight loss isn't about eating only "healthy" items. It's about creating sustainable changes for yourself that you can maintain after you reach your goal. Without fitting the items in that I want into my daily goals, I probably would have fallen off the wagon a long time ago.

    I've had multiple stints on this website since 2011, and I recently celebrated my 450 day streak on here. I used to go the 1,200/day route, the "clean eating" route, and overestimating my calorie burn/not weighing my food on a food scale route. None of those stuck for me. You need to figure out what works for you, and what you can do to hit your calorie goals, and reach your personal goals for weight loss.

    You've got this. Stick around here on these forums, read them, ask questions, and have an open mind like you have so far in this thread. We're here to help. [/quote]

    Hey thanks a ton, this app, and site have an amazing community, and I really appreciate all the support :]
  • MamaBirdBoss
    MamaBirdBoss Posts: 1,516 Member
    edited June 2015
    sheltol wrote: »
    So why doesn't anyone see anything wrong with the fact that a 320 pound male is eating ~1500 calories and not losing weight?

    I didn't see him say that he wasn't losing weight! I assumed he's new and not weighing.
  • AspenDan
    AspenDan Posts: 703 Member
    sheltol wrote: »
    So why doesn't anyone see anything wrong with the fact that a 320 pound male is eating ~1500 calories and not losing weight?

    I didn't see him say that he wasn't losing weight! I assumed he's new and not weighing.

    Yeah I've been losing wieght, about 20ish lbs in the last 3 weeks...gotta keep going tho!
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    sheltol wrote: »
    So why doesn't anyone see anything wrong with the fact that a 320 pound male is eating ~1500 calories and not losing weight?

    I didn't see him say that he wasn't losing weight! I assumed he's new and not weighing.

    Yeah I've been losing wieght, about 20ish lbs in the last 3 weeks...gotta keep going tho!

    That's great! And good to see you making use of the wonderful community here. I too find it a great help. Good luck!
  • lisamerrison
    lisamerrison Posts: 90 Member
    sheltol wrote: »
    So why doesn't anyone see anything wrong with the fact that a 320 pound male is eating ~1500 calories and not losing weight? With exercise? So lets just say he burns 300 calories exercising leaving his body 1200 calories to function on. That's on the low range for a female. I see multiple posts that starvation mode doesn't exist. I dont care what you call it adaptive thermogensis, fat adaptation, metabolic damage but a prolonged period at this extreme of a calorie deficit is forcing muscle loss which will further the cycle of making it more difficult to lose weight. The goal should be to eat as many calories as possible and lose weight not the other way around.
    I agree with this post - in addition, I don't see any calcium rich foods in this meal plan - cheese or fat free yoghurts. There is no fruit either other than the banana which is the highest fruit in sugar content. As with all the other posts - add treats. I have been following the slimming world plan as well as tracking on here (completely OCD) for two years - I may have only lost 2 stone but its the first time I have lost and it is staying off more or less. I have stopped losing weight since I have been walking (fast pace) for the last 12 weeks - been doing around 35k a week and I wonder too if I am not eating enough.

  • MamaBirdBoss
    MamaBirdBoss Posts: 1,516 Member
    sheltol wrote: »
    So why doesn't anyone see anything wrong with the fact that a 320 pound male is eating ~1500 calories and not losing weight? With exercise? So lets just say he burns 300 calories exercising leaving his body 1200 calories to function on. That's on the low range for a female. I see multiple posts that starvation mode doesn't exist. I dont care what you call it adaptive thermogensis, fat adaptation, metabolic damage but a prolonged period at this extreme of a calorie deficit is forcing muscle loss which will further the cycle of making it more difficult to lose weight. The goal should be to eat as many calories as possible and lose weight not the other way around.
    I agree with this post - in addition, I don't see any calcium rich foods in this meal plan - cheese or fat free yoghurts. There is no fruit either other than the banana which is the highest fruit in sugar content. As with all the other posts - add treats. I have been following the slimming world plan as well as tracking on here (completely OCD) for two years - I may have only lost 2 stone but its the first time I have lost and it is staying off more or less. I have stopped losing weight since I have been walking (fast pace) for the last 12 weeks - been doing around 35k a week and I wonder too if I am not eating enough.

    NO. You are eating too much.
  • MamaBirdBoss
    MamaBirdBoss Posts: 1,516 Member
    edited June 2015
    sheltol wrote: »
    So why doesn't anyone see anything wrong with the fact that a 320 pound male is eating ~1500 calories and not losing weight?

    I didn't see him say that he wasn't losing weight! I assumed he's new and not weighing.

    Yeah I've been losing wieght, about 20ish lbs in the last 3 weeks...gotta keep going tho!

    If you're full, DON'T SWEAT IT. You're totally fine. Your weight loss will decrease as you lose weight, and this is normal because your metabolic rate decreases with weight. (My RMR is BARELY over 1300. If I don't go out and do things to be active, I burn less than 1500 cal a day. Really.) Don't sweat that, either.

    Do some walking and lifting now to preserve muscle mass. Start with lifting just 2x per week. The most you should ever do is 3x per week--and the most you should do is 45min at a time. 3x per week at 30min each is enough to get a six pack if you do it well (and lose enough weight). :D Really! So you don't have to be a gym rat to show a lot of improvement. That might make you hungrier. Eat a little more, then!

    Add cardio exercise as your joints can handle it for health. (I wince when people tell big guys or gals to start running. The chances of injury for someone really out of shape are high no matter what, and when you add on the weight you're pounding your joints with with every step...um, NO.) You can do WHATEVER cardio works for you. Running is just awful for me, but I like HIIT and circuit training, video-type. Again, that might make you hungrier. Eat a little of it back.

    You can be in excellent health--not just decent, but excellent--with just 2.5 hours a week of exercise.
  • AspenDan
    AspenDan Posts: 703 Member
    Well I do exercise, 4-5 times a week on a recumbent exercise bike, for about half an hour. Says I burn about 300-400 calories maintaining about 140 heart rate averaged. I like your idea of not sweating it, I can't help but feel like if my body was starving, and I was getting under nourished, I'd probably feel some bad side effects of it.
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