I could eat and eat and eat

tiggernic

coming to the end of my third week of changing my life style and have done very well all day but now all I can think about is food, I've had a bag of crisps which is not the end of the world and I've actually stopped myself having chocolate but after three weeks of doing so well where do these cravings come from? I'm sure there's some science behind it but I feel Like their little demons that creep up on you and leave no room for healthy thoughts just the feeling of want. The feeling is so stronge and this is the point at which I usually fall off the waggon so to speak, but while typing this out I know I want a better lifestyle more. So coffee as sub followed by a glass of water and to bed I shall go and be proud of myself in the morning lol.!

shadowfax_c11

Assuming you have set your goal to loose 2 pounds a week and are not exercising. Start getting some exercise in even if it is just a walk around the block in the evening. It will help take your mind off of food and will give you some exercise calories to eat back. Also consider moving your goal to 1-1.5 pounds a week.

It looks like you do a great job with your diary. Maybe can sub in some things are are not so calorie dense for things that will let you feel like you are getting a bigger meal. And have some chocolate. I keep a bag of semi sweet morsels around the house. A 10 gram little serving is only about 50 calories and really helps to curb that need for chocolate.

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tiggernic

shadowfax_c11 wrote: »

Assuming you have set your goal to loose 2 pounds a week and are not exercising. Start getting some exercise in even if it is just a walk around the block in the evening. It will help take your mind off of food and will give you some exercise calories to eat back. Also consider moving your goal to 1-1.5 pounds a week.

It looks like you do a great job with your diary. Maybe can sub in some things are are not so calorie dense for things that will let you feel like you are getting a bigger meal. And have some chocolate. I keep a bag of semi sweet morsels around the house. A 10 gram little serving is only about 50 calories and really helps to curb that need for chocolate.

I have changed my weight loss target to 1 1/2 per week now that I'm in to the third week. I try to plan my meals on a Sunday so don't have to think about what to have. I think main thing different today was the excercise from Sunday to Wednesday I've exercised or been to the park and played footy and tennis kid style but today not so much kind of fell back into me, sofa and tv.

SherryTeach

I think you are hungry because the foods you are choosing aren't very much food for the calories. Eat quite a lot more veggies and fruit and lean meat.

tiggernic

BILLBRYTAN wrote: »

You are always thinking about and craving food because you are malnourished. Cravings are a sign of your body screaming for some food. Crisps and chocolate are not food. Food nourishes the body but crisps and chocolate have no nutritional value except empty calories. Your body will always be hungry when you eat garbage because it will never get the nutrients it needs. Try eating real, nutrient dense foods and you will find your cravings go away.
CICO is an idiotic way to lose weight because it does not take into account the nutrients you require to live and stay healthy. It is possible to lose a great deal of weight and be sicker than when you started. Forget about the scale and concentrate on eating your fill of real food.

Sorry what is cico? What sort of food would you suggest?

tiggernic

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SherryTeach wrote: »

I think you are hungry because the foods you are choosing aren't very much food for the calories. Eat quite a lot more veggies and fruit and lean meat.

thank you for your comment, looking back at my diary the first 2 weeks I was having hummus with carrots cucumber and peppers and wasn't hungry. So will address my meal planner

SherryTeach

CICO: calories in/calories out. You lose weight by being in a calorie deficit. You don't get hungry and you nourish your body by choosing foods that are nutrient dense and bulky. You nourish your soul by weighing out your chocolate and enjoying it without guilt.

999tigger

Too agressive, so ood you changed it to avoid binging. if you cnat manage 1.5 then go to 1. What you can sustain is the most importnat thing.

ManiacalLaugh

CICO is Calories In < Calories Out - and it's not an "idotic way to lose weight" it's how you lose weight - you eat less calories than you take in. You can lose weight just by doing that alone. Every fad diet that has had any sort of success has followed this, whether they acknowledge it or not.

MFP functions primarily under this concept.

As for always being hungry, I agree with SherryTeach. "Calorie-dense" foods sometimes leave us feeling a little empty. It's like eating 190 calories in cheese versus 190 in Rice Krispy Treats. Sure, they both will fill up our calorie allotment equally, but the Rice Krispy Treats are probably not going to last as long (for the purposes of feeling "full") than the cheese will. Even better, 190 calories in lean-meat like chicken breast might actually feel like too much food at the time.

SherryTeach

I'm wondering if having the majority of your calories come from skim milk, hamburgers, and chips is keeping you full?

tiggernic

SherryTeach wrote: »

CICO: calories in/calories out. You lose weight by being in a calorie deficit. You don't get hungry and you nourish your body by choosing foods that are nutrient dense and bulky. You nourish your soul by weighing out your chocolate and enjoying it without guilt.

Thank you for bringing me up to speed with the lingo, so 2 areas to look at
1 bring healthy filling food in to meal planner
2 plan a little bit of something nice
Will readdress the shopping list

970Mikaela1

BILLBRYTAN wrote: »

You are always thinking about and craving food because you are malnourished. Cravings are a sign of your body screaming for some food. Crisps and chocolate are not food. Food nourishes the body but crisps and chocolate have no nutritional value except empty calories. Your body will always be hungry when you eat garbage because it will never get the nutrients it needs. Try eating real, nutrient dense foods and you will find your cravings go away.
CICO is an idiotic way to lose weight because it does not take into account the nutrients you require to live and stay healthy. It is possible to lose a great deal of weight and be sicker than when you started. Forget about the scale and concentrate on eating your fill of real food.

I would personally disregard this. Chocolate and crisps have the same macro nutrients as any other food. Get your protein and fats first fill up the rest with your carbs. Be happy about your food.

TnTWalter

i also think you crave things sometimes...that time of the month, stress triggers, etc. It's a continual battle. Keep logging and try to make better choices. You can do it.

SherryTeach

Definitely up the protein and up the veggies too. When I eat a big plate of steamed broccoli paired with 4 ounces of pork tenderloin or chicken breast, I am full for a good while. That kind of meal is high on nutrients, fills me up, and doesn't break the calorie bank. I don't know that you necessarily need a professional "meal planner" to do this. Chicken, pork tenderloin, canned tuna, sirloin steak, all types of steamed and roasted veggies, and smaller amounts of fruit, lean dairy, and whole grains. You can experiment and work out a way to get a lot of food into your calorie budget.

newjojie

Edited because I see your question was already answered

tiggernic

SherryTeach wrote: »

I'm wondering if having the majority of your calories come from skim milk, hamburgers, and chips is keeping you full?

Yes looking at today's diary it is a wee bit lacking. Although very enjoyable but not filling. I do realise my milk allowance is high but this is a conscious decision to have with cereal and coffee through out the day although I have started to drink black coffee to reduce the amount. (I do love my coffee). Better choices for better results

tiggernic

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999tigger wrote: »

Too agressive, so ood you changed it to avoid binging. if you cnat manage 1.5 then go to 1. What you can sustain is the most importnat thing.

hank you for you comments

allaboutthecake

I like to have a piece of dark chocolate every now & then. I had 3 dark Hersey kisses today @20/cal ea. Very satisfying on the tongue. (& yea, def up the protein/fat it helps satiety).

MamaBirdBoss

Bill doesn't know what he's talking about...

But use more exercise to reach your deficits, and you'll be way happier.

tiggernic

SherryTeach wrote: »

Definitely up the protein and up the veggies too. When I eat a big plate of steamed broccoli paired with 4 ounces of pork tenderloin or chicken breast, I am full for a good while. That kind of meal is high on nutrients, fills me up, and doesn't break the calorie bank. I don't know that you necessarily need a professional "meal planner" to do this. Chicken, pork tenderloin, canned tuna, sirloin steak, all types of steamed and roasted veggies, and smaller amounts of fruit, lean dairy, and whole grains. You can experiment and work out a way to get a lot of food into your calorie budget.

Lol, when I say meal planner I mean me and a post it note to jot down ideas for tea so I don't have to think about it again, but better planning of the food I'm eating and not just using up calories thank you for you advise

tiggernic

MamaBirdBoss wrote: »

Bill doesn't know what he's talking about...

But use more exercise to reach your deficits, and you'll be way happier.

Thank you on both counts

tiggernic

allaboutthecake wrote: »

I like to have a piece of dark chocolate every now & then. I had 3 dark Hersey kisses today @20/cal ea. Very satisfying on the tongue. (& yea, def up the protein/fat it helps satiety).

Thank you and I do like dark chocolate haven't heard of Hersey kisses but I'm sure I could find them!

tiggernic

TnTWalter wrote: »

i also think you crave things sometimes...that time of the month, stress triggers, etc. It's a continual battle. Keep logging and try to make better choices. You can do it.

Thank you and I will

tiggernic

ManiacalLaugh wrote: »

CICO is Calories In < Calories Out - and it's not an "idotic way to lose weight" it's how you lose weight - you eat less calories than you take in. You can lose weight just by doing that alone. Every fad diet that has had any sort of success has followed this, whether they acknowledge it or not.

MFP functions primarily under this concept.

As for always being hungry, I agree with SherryTeach. "Calorie-dense" foods sometimes leave us feeling a little empty. It's like eating 190 calories in cheese versus 190 in Rice Krispy Treats. Sure, they both will fill up our calorie allotment equally, but the Rice Krispy Treats are probably not going to last as long (for the purposes of feeling "full") than the cheese will. Even better, 190 calories in lean-meat like chicken breast might actually feel like too much food at the time.

Thank you, I am happy that I asked as it has opened my eyes to were I am going wrong and I will certainly re look at how I use my calories going forward .

distinctlybeautiful

I can't remember where I saw this or exactly what it said, but I once read that true hunger is something that builds up slowly, while emotional hunger is something more instantaneous, something that just hits you and may seem to come out of nowhere.

Now as a former emotional eater, I can see how that idea seems ludicrous. You couldn't have told me then that emotional hunger wasn't real hunger, but I think it's really a matter of hunger for something else channeled into food, which makes it feel like you're starving. As for the second part of the idea, emotional hunger used to seem to build for me, but looking back I can see it differently. The hunger would hit in situations where I couldn't eat, and then I would feed it (pun not intended, but appreciated anyway!) by thinking about what I was going to eat.

Forgive me if I'm way off here. I think it was what you said about demons that made me think of all this. Anyway I think the idea is that if you can recognize when you're truly hungry vs. emotionally hungry, you can make better choices (and even more so if you can figure out what you're really wanting when you're emotionally hungry).

kerricus

Obviously, everyone seems to have their own ideas about the "best way" to lose weight. I think the only universally accepted idea is that you have to find a way that works for you in the long term. Your diet and exercise habits have to be sustainable for years to come. You are going to have ups and downs, times where you completely succumb to temptation, and you just have to pick yourself up and start again the next day.

When I was younger, I got so caught up in doing it the "right" way that I was either paralyzed or I did too much too soon and gave up. I have found that--for me--making one change at a time is the best way to go. First, I started walking. Then, a few months later, I started counting calories. I was shocked at what I saw, so after a few weeks I started improving my diet (fewer carbs, more protein works for me). Only recently have I started adding in running.

You've started, that's the most important thing. It will all get better from here. Try to be patient. I also recommend reading the Success Stories for inspiration, motivation, and valuable diet and exercise information.

Teamhynes

I feel that way too this week, but could swear it's PMS.

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tiggernic

distinctlybeautiful wrote: »

I can't remember where I saw this or exactly what it said, but I once read that true hunger is something that builds up slowly, while emotional hunger is something more instantaneous, something that just hits you and may seem to come out of nowhere.

Now as a former emotional eater, I can see how that idea seems ludicrous. You couldn't have told me then that emotional hunger wasn't real hunger, but I think it's really a matter of hunger for something else channeled into food, which makes it feel like you're starving. As for the second part of the idea, emotional hunger used to seem to build for me, but looking back I can see it differently. The hunger would hit in situations where I couldn't eat, and then I would feed it (pun not intended, but appreciated anyway!) by thinking about what I was going to eat.

Forgive me if I'm way off here. I think it was what you said about demons that made me think of all this. Anyway I think the idea is that if you can recognize when you're truly hungry vs. emotionally hungry, you can make better choices (and even more so if you can figure out what you're really wanting when you're emotionally hungry).

Thank you for your comment Ive read it a couple of times over and when I think back to last night it was a sudden feeling that was so overwhelming it was a want not a need. So I guess together with picking filling food I need to. ID the want which I think is going to be a lot harder than the food.

tiggernic

kerricus wrote: »

Obviously, everyone seems to have their own ideas about the "best way" to lose weight. I think the only universally accepted idea is that you have to find a way that works for you in the long term. Your diet and exercise habits have to be sustainable for years to come. You are going to have ups and downs, times where you completely succumb to temptation, and you just have to pick yourself up and start again the next day.

When I was younger, I got so caught up in doing it the "right" way that I was either paralyzed or I did too much too soon and gave up. I have found that--for me--making one change at a time is the best way to go. First, I started walking. Then, a few months later, I started counting calories. I was shocked at what I saw, so after a few weeks I started improving my diet (fewer carbs, more protein works for me). Only recently have I started adding in running.

You've started, that's the most important thing. It will all get better from here. Try to be patient. I also recommend reading the Success Stories for inspiration, motivation, and valuable diet and exercise information.

Thank you for you comments and with the support from here I am hopeful this time to make the changes in my life for life