6 BRUTALLY HONEST reasons why you are still fat

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  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    kgeyser wrote: »
    He's talking to the people who "couldn't get to the gym" but manage to keep up with the happenings of the Kardashians.

    No he's not - he's talking to the people who want to feel superior to the people keeping up with the Kardashians.

    "Tough love" without first establishing the "love" is usually just called being a ****.

    Agree.

    Also, I mean, overweight/obesity is a natural effect of the default north american lifestyle. It does take extra effort and knowledge to combat this. A fish doesn't know it's in water. I'm not going to blame a fish for being a fish.
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    MissAmyx wrote: »
    As i said in my OP I get that this kind of "motivation" isn't for everyone but (and this is just my opinion here so you know don't get all mad...is that even a thing that happens? do people get mad at others for sharing their opinion on the internet? I doubt it, that sounds so crazy)
    sometimes people need to just harden up a little, some people (not all) really do hide behind the whole "It's actually everyone else's fault I'm over weight, I try to eat healthy but they bring snack foods to work and i can't be rude and say no to the food offered to me!" the article points out that playing the victim isn't going to fix anything people need to own up to their problems not find excuses for them.

    This article made me realize that I have used the excuses listed and i do need to harden up myself and take responsibility for my problems as well as realizing I'm the only one who's going to be responsible for any change that will occur.

    P.s Just to add (again just MHO) I feel that sometimes this place can be a little to flowery and all "Omg you're such a special unique snowflake girl/guy! You are just so magical and the sun radiates from your're very being!!! HUUUUUUUUUUUUGZ!!" a little bit of tough love and a reality check every now and then isn't going to hurt

    These things dull the sparkles of our beautiful rainbows.
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  • cwilso37
    cwilso37 Posts: 79 Member
    I find it somewhat ironic that he writes as if complaining about others not being able to do his program.

    As to why it wont help anyone: He runs a niche (as far as I know) blog. The only people that will find it are people already into wanting to change / have changed. So he is just preaching to the choir, granted a hateful choir that must eat healthy (I assume clean[whatever that word means today]?) 95% of the time.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    MissAmyx wrote: »
    As i said in my OP I get that this kind of "motivation" isn't for everyone but (and this is just my opinion here so you know don't get all mad...is that even a thing that happens? do people get mad at others for sharing their opinion on the internet? I doubt it, that sounds so crazy)
    sometimes people need to just harden up a little, some people (not all) really do hide behind the whole "It's actually everyone else's fault I'm over weight, I try to eat healthy but they bring snack foods to work and i can't be rude and say no to the food offered to me!" the article points out that playing the victim isn't going to fix anything people need to own up to their problems not find excuses for them.

    This article made me realize that I have used the excuses listed and i do need to harden up myself and take responsibility for my problems as well as realizing I'm the only one who's going to be responsible for any change that will occur.

    P.s Just to add (again just MHO) I feel that sometimes this place can be a little to flowery and all "Omg you're such a special unique snowflake girl/guy! You are just so magical and the sun radiates from your're very being!!! HUUUUUUUUUUUUGZ!!" a little bit of tough love and a reality check every now and then isn't going to hurt
    Brutality and flummery aren't the only options.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    eric_sg61 wrote: »
    Article was posted here before and caused tremendous butthurt. This is supposed to be a happy place that supports everyone devoid of critical thinking or scrutiny. We are all unique and special
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  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    "‘Treats’ are something out of the ordinary. If it happens more than once a month it is no longer out of the ordinary. Stop saying treat. You aren’t having a treat.

    It comes down to sacrifice and commitment, like we talked about earlier. Come on. You’re a grown *kitten* adult making their own decisions. Don’t delude yourself in an attempt to justify the fact you are fully responsible for the *kitten* you plow into your mouth.

    You are just eating *kitten*." --Taylor Simon

    This sort of restrictive-food-shaming advise is usually crucified on MFP daily. On every thread. And in mass. I'm surprised it's getting support today.

    Ok, I'm not really surprised...

    It's not about restrictive food shaming, it's about food moderation. It's one of those articles where you take what you like and leave the rest. :)
  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    kgeyser wrote: »
    Kalikel wrote: »
    Kalikel wrote: »
    Yes, honesty is his problem, lol. It's not hating people he works with and whining about it online. It's honesty!

    Maybe he should go to medical school and become a cardiologist. Then he'd have a never-ending supply of people who made bad choices and suffered the consequences to yell at and he could do it in person. He could also get them when at their lowest, weak and in hospital beds. "You shouldn't have eaten all that crap! That's why you're going to DIE!!!" They might even cry.

    He could become a clergyman. Holy crap, how he'd find people regretting their bad decisions. He could then tell them all the things they did wrong...and again, they'd be coming for help when they're the most miserable.

    Lots of opportunities to inflict that honesty on people and kick them when they're down. There's good coaching for you.

    But instead he finds himself in the unfortunate position of Fitness Coach, dealing with people who are...goodness, not fit!...and have the opportunity to blow him off much easier.

    Oh, that honesty. It's such a burden.


    Bu the thing is, he is not a priest, he is not a family doctor, he is not a suicide hotline counselor, he is a random guy with a blog. As he states in the disclaimer, if he was writing for a scientific journal or magazine, he would use a different approach.

    It's a blog post, not doctrine. *shrugs*

    If he wants to dump on people when they're down, which he obviously does, there are better jobs for it.

    I think he covered that in his sixth point where he talks about attitude and discusses how there are people with real issues such as homelessness, joblessness, cancer, diabetes, life-altering injuries, starvation, gang rape, kidnapping, and other very real obstacles in the world. He isn't talking to those people.

    He's talking to the people who "couldn't get to the gym" but manage to keep up with the happenings of the Kardashians. Who "can't find time to go grocery shopping" and end up eating fast food or large restaurant portions every night, but find time to log their every waking thought on Facebook. He's talking to the people who have vast resources at their disposal in terms of gyms, money, health care, grocery stores with wide selections, and education, and who still choose to not make their health or weight loss a priority.

    In short, he's talking to the ones who want to pretend to be a victim of their circumstances, rather than acknowledging that they have all the tools, they just choose not to use them.
    He needs a new job.

    It's obvious that he's kind of frustrated and overwhelmed with emotion after listening to excuses and wants to dump on people.

    He's not a good coach. Good coaches don't go on like that. It's not about their issues.

    He's even making excuses for himself and how he's so burdened by his honesty. So, he knows what he's doing is wrong.

    He's not good at what he's trying to do and he's unhappy. Time to find a new job!

    Theres a difference between honesty and brutal honesty. The brutal part is always about the person doling it out.

    It's a blog; I'm not sure how you can deduce his effectiveness at his job based on his blog. He has job, his clients are obviously happy with his work if they keep paying him. It's not a like a personal trainer is a necessity in life and you have to keep going whether you like it or not. No one is obligated to work with him if they do not like his style - he wouldn't be my choice for a trainer - but that doesn't mean he isn't able to help his clients get results.

    He may not have an approach you like, but you're making a lot of assumptions about who he is as a person based on one blog entry. You haven't addressed any of the points he made in his blog, just railed on his delivery style and his character. But then again, he addresses that reaction from people in the blog as well. I find his communication style blunt with harsh language, but not particularly brutal; but I would classify myself as being accountable for my choices when it comes to weight loss and fitness, so I'm willing to own up to not achieving particular goals due to personal choices in my diet and fitness routine and not just label him a "meanie" for pointing it out. That's not to say that I agree with every single point he makes or that it's my preferred communication style, but I would counter his statements with information or research, not attack him personally.

    So now that we've established that you don't like the way he says things, what do you think about his actual points?
  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    kgeyser wrote: »
    He's talking to the people who "couldn't get to the gym" but manage to keep up with the happenings of the Kardashians.

    No he's not - he's talking to the people who want to feel superior to the people keeping up with the Kardashians.

    "Tough love" without first establishing the "love" is usually just called being a ****.

    If he were walking around randomly yelling at people on the street, I would agree with you. But this is his blog, his business; if you don't want to hear what he has to say, don't read it. He's not under any obligation to establish a rapport with every single person on the internet when writing; some people will like his style, others will find it off-putting. But as I said in another post, there seems to be a bit too much focus on how he says things rather than discussion on what he actually says, which is what we should really focus on.
  • amazinglyjae
    amazinglyjae Posts: 49 Member
    Bump. This article is genius lmaoo
  • LBuehrle8
    LBuehrle8 Posts: 4,044 Member
    @kgeyser you're so smart! I 100% agree but couldn't figure out how to word what I wanted to say!
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    kgeyser wrote: »
    But as I said in another post, there seems to be a bit too much focus on how he says things rather than discussion on what he actually says...

    That's because how we say things cannot be separated from what we say.


  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    edited June 2015
    Nothing but a list of warmed-over cliches written by an ugly little spud who has likely never had sex that he didn't have to pay for.

    Hey, I'm just being honest....
  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    kgeyser wrote: »
    But as I said in another post, there seems to be a bit too much focus on how he says things rather than discussion on what he actually says...

    That's because how we say things cannot be separated from what we say.

    I disagree. But I admit to being biased in that respect because I have a special needs kid, and things she says or writes do not always come out in the "prettiest" way, and often in the bluntest way possible. So I personally do not attach an opinion about a person's knowledge, intelligence, character, or ability based on their delivery and focus more on the content of their statements. And no, I am not saying in any way that people who are being intentionally rude or hurtful are on par with people with special needs, just illustrating why I personally separate the two based on my life experiences.

    And not to get all moddy up in here, but I think the intention of the OP was to discuss the points put forth by the blog author, not the author himself, so we should probably move the focus back to that since we've all acknowledged (including the author) that his delivery is not going to appeal to everyone.
  • Chezzie84
    Chezzie84 Posts: 873 Member
    Azdak wrote: »
    Nothing but a list of warmed-over cliches written by an ugly little spud who has likely never had sex that he didn't have to pay for.

    Hey, I'm just being honest....

    Funny thing is... My thoughts were along the same lines.

  • Velum_cado
    Velum_cado Posts: 1,608 Member
    I can't take anyone with a chinstrap beard seriously. I'm sorry.
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,446 Member
    edited June 2015
    Azdak wrote: »
    Nothing but a list of warmed-over cliches written by an ugly little spud who has likely never had sex that he didn't have to pay for.

    Hey, I'm just being honest....
    Azdak! Unexpected!
  • Jad31te
    Jad31te Posts: 73 Member
    It is a case where you have to sort through the BS .. It is not like there was no truth to what he was saying, I happen to agree with him for the most part. Thanks for sharing~
  • annette_15
    annette_15 Posts: 1,657 Member
    LOL I LOVE THIS
  • tesha_chandler
    tesha_chandler Posts: 378 Member
    I think he is spot on, though. Especially with number 6! Attitude is everything, and not just when it comes to health.
  • tiffanybrooks530
    tiffanybrooks530 Posts: 140 Member
    Coach Taylor Simon is right, and really his principles are not new, and are not limited to just diet and weight lost. Thanks for the read.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,988 Member
    Doing this for a long time myself, I just boil it down to a couple of reasons.

    1. Lack of commitment to a plan.
    2. Lack of consistency to the plan.

    The rest pretty much just fall into the 2. If people pretty much follow the 2 above, it should lead to progress and success.

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  • vixtris
    vixtris Posts: 688 Member
    I enjoyed reading it actually. It is true, maybe not for all but I think it is for a majority of people who have yet to realize. I think most people here on MFP should not be offended by it. A lot of us here do take getting in shape seriously and are on the right track already.
  • MamaBirdBoss
    MamaBirdBoss Posts: 1,516 Member
    "100 years ago you had cake on your birthday and maybe a family member or two. "

    HE EATS PEOPLE!

    Sorry,. Couldn't resist.
  • MelodyandBarbells
    MelodyandBarbells Posts: 7,724 Member
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    Yep, pretty much all true.

    Number of people it will help: 0.

    Yes, it is honest. The article has been posted here before too, and it's a great reality check. :)

    Just curious- why do you think it will help no people?

    The only people who will hear through the ***holeness are the people who already get it.

    Which also means the subject of the article is really just the author and his self-perceived awesomeness...but that's a different issue. Or not.

    When I read through the comments some months back, I feel like I remember a lot of responses saying it was just the kick in the rear they needed

    My reaction today was "geez when are the six reasons starting!!" :tongue:
  • PuckTard
    PuckTard Posts: 29 Member
    I absolutely love this guy, thank you for posting this! We are all adults, we are all responsible for our lives and situations. I don't understand why blunt honesty would upset anyone, unless you prefer to lie to yourself.
  • COLTMUSCLE97
    COLTMUSCLE97 Posts: 224 Member
    There's no reward for finishing your meal in record time -- unless you're a contestant in a hot dog eating contest! Our hectic schedules have led many of us to adopt the unhealthy habit of rapid eating :o
  • biggsterjackster
    biggsterjackster Posts: 419 Member
    The article is funny but no news.
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,149 Member
    So what do I call the treats I have twice a day? Should I stick with desserts?
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  • RuNaRoUnDaFiEld
    RuNaRoUnDaFiEld Posts: 5,864 Member
    What a potty mouth!
  • isulo_kura
    isulo_kura Posts: 818 Member
    edited June 2015
    It always seems to me that those being 'Brutally Honest' have more issues than the supposed people they are aiming their 'Honesty' at. He has some points but shouting at people never works. As the saying goes

    “Lighthouses don’t go running all over an island looking for boats to save; they just stand there shining.”
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