VLDC and advice on how to go back to a 2700 calorie diet

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  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    I did not know that .. interesting :)
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    shawnmstout wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    shawnmstout wrote: »
    i got a hyperthyroid, just found out last month. My thyroid was a .008. I have to go see an endocrinologist in august to see what they are going to do. I am hoping the thyroid pills don't cause me to gain weight.

    Woah...you have a thyroid problem ....that may well complicate things until it is correctly medicated as it will affect the calories out side of the equation.

    Thyroid medication, may take a while to find right treatment, but once adequately medicated will make weight loss much much easier

    Hyper makes it easier to lose weight but my problem is that your body tries to counterbalance by having some crazy cravings which are very hard to control. Weight gain usually does not occur with hyper but in some cases like mine it does. It took some googling to find people with weight gain and hyper as its not as common.

    Hyperthyroid tends to cause weight loss, and hypo tends to cause gain, but as you've seen it can go either way.
    My ex mother-in-law has hypo, and possibly had it undiagnosed for a large part of her life, but she's close to underweight, and getting put on medicine for hypothyroid made her gain a little bit of weight at first.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    About getting over full. I get this too and I find eating slower helps. For a while it took me thirty minutes to finish a bowl of oatmeal. If you feel full stop, wait ten to twenty minutes, and get back to your meal. Some foods are tolerated better than others and you will figure this out in time. High volume foods that I tolerate well include popcorn, leafy salads, and watermelon.

    Low volume high calorie foods will help too like the good fats, nuts, and cheeses.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    Oh yes, a nice walk after eating will help things move along too.
  • CSARdiver
    CSARdiver Posts: 6,252 Member
    edited June 2015
    shawnmstout wrote: »
    i got a hyperthyroid, just found out last month. My thyroid was a .008. I have to go see an endocrinologist in august to see what they are going to do. I am hoping the thyroid pills don't cause me to gain weight.

    Take multiple readings before medicating. Your TSH should ideally be between 0.3-3.0. There are several conflicting hormones that can react to T4, T3, and RT3, but many endocrinologists only go off of TSH levels. Just move slowly when treating metabolic issues as the adverse effects of a "cure" can make things worse.

    I have hypothyroidism and have the same issue. If I experience a drop in T4 my appetite goes through the roof.
  • shawnmstout
    shawnmstout Posts: 131 Member
    CSARdiver wrote: »
    shawnmstout wrote: »
    i got a hyperthyroid, just found out last month. My thyroid was a .008. I have to go see an endocrinologist in august to see what they are going to do. I am hoping the thyroid pills don't cause me to gain weight.

    Take multiple readings before medicating. Your TSH should ideally be between 0.3-3.0. There are several conflicting hormones that can react to T4, T3, and RT3, but many endocrinologists only go off of TSH levels. Just move slowly when treating metabolic issues as the adverse effects of a "cure" can make things worse.

    I have hypothyroidism and have the same issue. If I experience a drop in T4 my appetite goes through the roof.

    Yeah, i am kind of scared to go see an endocrinologist about it to be honest. Sometimes doctors make things worse. Any suggestions you use to curve those cravings?
  • shawnmstout
    shawnmstout Posts: 131 Member
    edited July 2015
    my stomach feels full and i am only at 857 calories, this sucks, lol

    maybe i will have some sherbert ice cream tonight
  • blankiefinder
    blankiefinder Posts: 3,599 Member
    If you're really desperate you could pick up some Cyto Carb 2 and add it to a smoothie. It has 210 calories per small scoop, pure carbs, unflavoured. My son uses it to up his calories due to heavy training.

    Better to get it from real food though.
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,422 Member
    shawnmstout wrote: »
    my stomach feels full and i am only at 857 calories, this sucks, lol. maybe i will have some sherbert ice cream tonight
    Ice cream is not a bad idea.

    When are you seeing the endocrinologist Shawn?

    If your thyroid and associated hormones are seriously off, this could also account for you not feeling hungry.

    Has your change in weight corresponded to the deficits you believe you've been achieving or are the numbers significantly off?

    You could setup yourself with a free fitbit account, enter your scale weigh-ins there, and associate that account with a trendweight.com account.

    Trendweight will give you a better approximation of what your body thinks is your actual deficit.

    You can also setup your own spreadsheet to track things over time, the goal being to figure out the relationship between your logged intakes and outputs vs what your body is actually registering.
  • shawnmstout
    shawnmstout Posts: 131 Member
    edited July 2015
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    shawnmstout wrote: »
    my stomach feels full and i am only at 857 calories, this sucks, lol. maybe i will have some sherbert ice cream tonight
    Ice cream is not a bad idea.

    When are you seeing the endocrinologist Shawn?

    If your thyroid and associated hormones are seriously off, this could also account for you not feeling hungry.

    Has your change in weight corresponded to the deficits you believe you've been achieving or are the numbers significantly off?

    You could setup yourself with a free fitbit account, enter your scale weigh-ins there, and associate that account with a trendweight.com account.

    Trendweight will give you a better approximation of what your body thinks is your actual deficit.

    You can also setup your own spreadsheet to track things over time, the goal being to figure out the relationship between your logged intakes and outputs vs what your body is actually registering.

    Appointment is August 14

    no i dont think my numbers are off that much. i have a smart scale and it weighs for me, takes my body fat % and my heart rate as well as the air quality. Although i think the body fat % is way off.

    I decided on oatmeal with some almond milk, i just couldn't see adding all that unnecessary sugar to my body.

    I am really trying to eat cleaner and don't want to tempt myself with the sugar in ice cream, i have weened myself off of all the sugar i was putting in my body and I dont really want to go back.
  • shawnmstout
    shawnmstout Posts: 131 Member
    edited July 2015
    that really tasted good :) i usually don't eat carbs but i needed something different. of course everything has some carbs in them
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