anyone else on 1000cal and struggling?

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  • blankiefinder
    blankiefinder Posts: 3,599 Member
    What are your stats? Do you weigh all your food with a food scale?

    Hi, no I don't weigh all my food. I just bought some scales. Do you recommend?

    If you're 6 feet tall you are quite tall for a woman and there is no way 1000 calories is enough! Run your numbers through mfp for a reasonable rate of loss (.5 or 1 lb per week), use a food scale, and eat to that number for a month and see how it goes
  • barbecuesauce
    barbecuesauce Posts: 1,771 Member
    malibu927 wrote: »
    bziebart wrote: »
    If I were to eat 2000 calories / day I would gain weight... no question. I eat around 1200 calories / day, nearly all protein and fat (under 40 grams of carbs typically) and work out every day burning roughly 750 calories / day. While some might say that's bad it works for me to drop weight AND keep it off. I lost 40-50 pounds doing this a couple years ago and once I hit my target weight I upped the calories and continued working out.

    What's worse... a "bad diet" or lugging around an extra 30, 40, or 50 pounds? Have you ever felt a heavy suitcase?

    All to say, if you have 10 to lose then go nuts for 2-3 weeks, lose it and immediately get back into a regular diet with exercise.

    Since you're male, 1200 is considered undereating for you. You should be aiming for 1500 net calories minimum.

    +1.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    What are your stats? Do you weigh all your food with a food scale?

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  • blankiefinder
    blankiefinder Posts: 3,599 Member
    edited June 2015
    senecarr wrote: »
    What are your stats? Do you weigh all your food with a food scale?

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    If she was 4'10, 105 lbs and not weighing food... Or 6'0 and 400... Or anywhere in between... Need stats and info to give any useful answer
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    No food = no energy. EAT
  • Zedeff
    Zedeff Posts: 651 Member
    shell1005 wrote: »
    It is recommended that no one eat below 1200 calories

    -1500 is the recommended minimum for men

    Says who?
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    What are your stats? Do you weigh all your food with a food scale?

    NotSureIfSRS.jpg

    If she was 4'10, 105 lbs and not weighing food... Or 6'0 and 400... Or anywhere in between... Need stats and info to give any useful answer

    Fair enough. I wasn't sure if the weighing food was a stock reply joke, or checking the person is actually eating more and doesn't know it.
  • shadow2soul
    shadow2soul Posts: 7,692 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    shell1005 wrote: »
    It is recommended that no one eat below 1200 calories

    -1500 is the recommended minimum for men

    Says who?

    I believe MFP got that information from the National Institute of Health.

    https://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/1375583-a-message-about-myfitnesspal-s-updated-nutrition-goals
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    shell1005 wrote: »
    It is recommended that no one eat below 1200 calories

    -1500 is the recommended minimum for men

    Says who?

    I believe MFP got that information from the National Institute of Health.

    https://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/1375583-a-message-about-myfitnesspal-s-updated-nutrition-goals

    BAM!
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    shell1005 wrote: »
    It is recommended that no one eat below 1200 calories

    -1500 is the recommended minimum for men

    Says who?

    https://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/1375583-a-message-about-myfitnesspal-s-updated-nutrition-goals
    The National Institutes of Health indicates that eating plans of 1,500 calories for men, and 1,200 calories for women, are safe and effective in achieving weight loss. To align with these guidelines myfitnesspal has implemented a separate calorie minimum for males of 1,500 calories per day. Previously, the minimum was 1,200 calories for both men and women.
  • Train4Foodz
    Train4Foodz Posts: 4,298 Member
    edited June 2015
    Note To Members

    Please note that I've had a little clean up of this topic, although some of the removed replies were giving firm advice and were breaking no guidelines I felt it necessary to remove any reference to certain replies made.

    I would also like to point out that although we greatly appreciate all positive and helpful input within the community, promoting any VLCD (Very Low calorie Diet) is a breach of community guidelines that are set in place to protect all members of the community.

    If you ever see any such intance of this kind of promotion, please report it to the moderation team so that we can review it and take apropriate action.

    With respect,
    Adam, MyFitnessPal Moderator
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    shell1005 wrote: »
    It is recommended that no one eat below 1200 calories

    -1500 is the recommended minimum for men

    Says who?

    I believe MFP got that information from the National Institute of Health.

    https://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/1375583-a-message-about-myfitnesspal-s-updated-nutrition-goals

    Jinx, you owe me a soda.
  • shadow2soul
    shadow2soul Posts: 7,692 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    shell1005 wrote: »
    It is recommended that no one eat below 1200 calories

    -1500 is the recommended minimum for men

    Says who?

    I believe MFP got that information from the National Institute of Health.

    https://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/1375583-a-message-about-myfitnesspal-s-updated-nutrition-goals

    Jinx, you owe me a soda.

    I posted 2 mins before you :tongue:
  • buket1819
    buket1819 Posts: 73 Member
    edited June 2015
    and it's likely that 1200 wouldn't be enough for you.

    Give it time and try eating more. Then it's more likely that you will keep the weight loss and not gain weight back. It is a high chance that if you don't eat enough, you'll end up binging as soon as you ''get rid of the weight'' (and quickly) and gain the weight back plus more.
  • Zedeff
    Zedeff Posts: 651 Member
    edited June 2015
    There is a difference in the meanings of the phrases "safe and effective" versus "absolute bare minimum" or even "dangerous" as some users interpret the claim.

    It is also "safe and effective" to lose weight at 1500 and 2000 calories for women and men respectively, but we don't treat those as absolute thresholds, do we?

    I'm not sure that anyone replying actually read the link from the NIH.
  • Zedeff
    Zedeff Posts: 651 Member
    Ha, in fact, if you bothered to read the document from the NIH, you will note on Chapter 4, Page 74, the following phrase:
    A patient may choose a diet of 1,000 to 1,200 kcal for women and 1,200 to 1,500 kcal for men.

    Ahem... "BAM."
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    There is a difference in the meanings of the phrases "safe and effective" versus "absolute bare minimum" or even "dangerous" as some users interpret the claim.

    It is also "safe and effective" to lose weight at 1500 and 2000 calories for women and men respectively, but we don't treat those as absolute thresholds, do we?

    I'm not sure that anyone replying actually read the link from the NIH.

    Usually dangerous is an antonym for safe.
    The LCD ranges given there assume the person is under a physician's care.
  • mantium999
    mantium999 Posts: 1,490 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Ha, in fact, if you bothered to read the document from the NIH, you will note on Chapter 4, Page 74, the following phrase:
    A patient may choose a diet of 1,000 to 1,200 kcal for women and 1,200 to 1,500 kcal for men.

    Ahem... "BAM."

    The same document is designed to address "overweight and obese" individuals, per BMI guidelines. Based on their own table, the OP does not classify as either (has a sub-25 BMI). So this "patient" should probably not "choose a diet of 1,000 to 1,200 kcal". So you are basically picking a fight that doesn't actually apply to this particular situation. Good job.
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  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    mantium999 wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Ha, in fact, if you bothered to read the document from the NIH, you will note on Chapter 4, Page 74, the following phrase:
    A patient may choose a diet of 1,000 to 1,200 kcal for women and 1,200 to 1,500 kcal for men.

    Ahem... "BAM."

    The same document is designed to address "overweight and obese" individuals, per BMI guidelines. Based on their own table, the OP does not classify as either (has a sub-25 BMI). So this "patient" should probably not "choose a diet of 1,000 to 1,200 kcal". So you are basically picking a fight that doesn't actually apply to this particular situation. Good job.

    Exactly. In no fantasy world is it healthy for a 6', 165-lb, 22-year-old person to eat 1,000 calories a day.
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    shell1005 wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Ha, in fact, if you bothered to read the document from the NIH, you will note on Chapter 4, Page 74, the following phrase:
    A patient may choose a diet of 1,000 to 1,200 kcal for women and 1,200 to 1,500 kcal for men.

    Ahem... "BAM."

    If you bothered to read the sentence you quoted, it says patient. Not quite the same.

    And to answer your initial question as to WHO made that recommendation. MFP. You know the place where we signed up and agreed to their terms of service. Them, that's who.

    YOU, I like!
  • mantium999
    mantium999 Posts: 1,490 Member
    shell1005 wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Ha, in fact, if you bothered to read the document from the NIH, you will note on Chapter 4, Page 74, the following phrase:
    A patient may choose a diet of 1,000 to 1,200 kcal for women and 1,200 to 1,500 kcal for men.

    Ahem... "BAM."

    If you bothered to read the sentence you quoted, it says patient. Not quite the same.

    And to answer your initial question as to WHO made that recommendation. MFP. You know the place where we signed up and agreed to their terms of service. Them, that's who.

    I like how you logic
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    shell1005 wrote: »
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Ha, in fact, if you bothered to read the document from the NIH, you will note on Chapter 4, Page 74, the following phrase:
    A patient may choose a diet of 1,000 to 1,200 kcal for women and 1,200 to 1,500 kcal for men.

    Ahem... "BAM."

    If you bothered to read the sentence you quoted, it says patient. Not quite the same.

    And to answer your initial question as to WHO made that recommendation. MFP. You know the place where we signed up and agreed to their terms of service. Them, that's who.

    :heart:
  • mangrothian
    mangrothian Posts: 1,351 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Ha, in fact, if you bothered to read the document from the NIH, you will note on Chapter 4, Page 74, the following phrase:
    A patient may choose a diet of 1,000 to 1,200 kcal for women and 1,200 to 1,500 kcal for men.

    Ahem... "BAM."

    The word 'patient' implies that their diet is under the supervision of a qualified physician. Those guides are also for people of average height. OP has stated she's 6' tall, well over the national average for women in any nation.

    Also look at the title of the document "Clinical Guidelines on the Identification, evaluation and treatment of overweight and obesity in adults". Once again, OP has a healthy BMI (she's 6' tall. As a girl who's 6'1, I can't believe she'd even attempt 1000Cal a day), and should not eat that low, no matter what the guidelines say.

    @georgiarosea I've gone and done the calculation for TDEE for you. If you're completely sedentary, an 0.5kg / 1lb a week weight loss still requires you eat 1400Calories a day. Add in exercise, and it's more. Yes it will take longer for you to lose the weight, but you'll feel better in the process. Besides, what is an extra month compared to the rest of your life?
  • buket1819
    buket1819 Posts: 73 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Ha, in fact, if you bothered to read the document from the NIH, you will note on Chapter 4, Page 74, the following phrase:
    A patient may choose a diet of 1,000 to 1,200 kcal for women and 1,200 to 1,500 kcal for men.

    Ahem... "BAM."

    1.b. Rate of weight loss
    —A reasonable time line for weight loss is to achieve a 10 percent reduction in body weight over 6 months of therapy. For over weight patients with BMIs in the typical range of 27 to 35, a decrease of 300 to 500kcal/day will result in weight losses of about 1⁄2 to 1lb/week and a 10 percent weight loss in 6
    months. For more severely obese patients with BMIs ≥35, deficits of up to 500 to 1,000 kcal/day will lead to weight losses of about 1 to2 lb/week and a 10 percent weight loss in 6 months.

    Quoted from page 72.

  • mantium999
    mantium999 Posts: 1,490 Member
    edited July 2015
    Also taken from the same article "From the 25 RCT articles with a duration
    of ³ 6 months, compared to controls, LCDs
    brought about a mean weight loss of approximately
    8 percent of body weight over a period of
    6 months and up to 1 year. The nine studies
    with an intervention lasting from 3 months up
    to 6 months also averaged approximately 8 percent
    weight loss compared to controls."

    A 200 lb person, losing 8%, over six months, equates to 16 lbs, or 2.66 lbs per month. 16 lbs, times 3500 calories per pound, is a 56,000 calorie deficit. That equates to a weekly deficit of 2333, or a daily deficit of 333. A 5'5, 200lb woman, with little to no activity level, has an approx TDEE of 2000. Subtract 333 calories, and they should lose the same 16lbs over 6 months by consuming 1667 calories. This suggests that the LCD was no more effective than eating at a moderate deficit.
  • DuckReconMajor
    DuckReconMajor Posts: 434 Member
    The National Institutes of Health indicates that eating plans of 1,500 calories for men, and 1,200 calories for women, are safe and effective in achieving weight loss. To align with these guidelines myfitnesspal has implemented a separate calorie minimum for males of 1,500 calories per day. Previously, the minimum was 1,200 calories for both men and women.
    Wait, MFP gave me a goal in the 1300s and doesn't yell at me unless I go under 1200. I am set as Male. Am I missing something?
  • barbecuesauce
    barbecuesauce Posts: 1,771 Member
    The National Institutes of Health indicates that eating plans of 1,500 calories for men, and 1,200 calories for women, are safe and effective in achieving weight loss. To align with these guidelines myfitnesspal has implemented a separate calorie minimum for males of 1,500 calories per day. Previously, the minimum was 1,200 calories for both men and women.
    Wait, MFP gave me a goal in the 1300s and doesn't yell at me unless I go under 1200. I am set as Male. Am I missing something?

    There was a bug that was giving people goals of like 700--maybe you signed up during that period? I recommend going into goals and running your numbers again.
  • wosslogic
    wosslogic Posts: 4 Member
    Not OP, but people don't realize that 1200 isn't enough for VERY short people to lose weight. :/ I maintained for three months on 1200 and have only started losing weight since I started sticking to 1000... It sucks a LOT, but it's actually necessary
  • barbecuesauce
    barbecuesauce Posts: 1,771 Member
    wosslogic wrote: »
    Not OP, but people don't realize that 1200 isn't enough for VERY short people to lose weight. :/ I maintained for three months on 1200 and have only started losing weight since I started sticking to 1000... It sucks a LOT, but it's actually necessary

    And that comes up when a short person makes a thread, but OP is six feet tall.
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