anyone else on 1000cal and struggling?

malibu927 wrote: »

bziebart wrote: »

If I were to eat 2000 calories / day I would gain weight... no question. I eat around 1200 calories / day, nearly all protein and fat (under 40 grams of carbs typically) and work out every day burning roughly 750 calories / day. While some might say that's bad it works for me to drop weight AND keep it off. I lost 40-50 pounds doing this a couple years ago and once I hit my target weight I upped the calories and continued working out.

What's worse... a "bad diet" or lugging around an extra 30, 40, or 50 pounds? Have you ever felt a heavy suitcase?

All to say, if you have 10 to lose then go nuts for 2-3 weeks, lose it and immediately get back into a regular diet with exercise.

Since you're male, 1200 is considered undereating for you. You should be aiming for 1500 net calories minimum.

+1.

senecarr wrote: »

blankiefinder wrote: »

What are your stats? Do you weigh all your food with a food scale?

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If she was 4'10, 105 lbs and not weighing food... Or 6'0 and 400... Or anywhere in between... Need stats and info to give any useful answer

shell1005 wrote: »

It is recommended that no one eat below 1200 calories

barbecuesauce wrote: »

-1500 is the recommended minimum for men

Says who?

Zedeff wrote: »

shell1005 wrote: »

It is recommended that no one eat below 1200 calories

barbecuesauce wrote: »

-1500 is the recommended minimum for men

Says who?

I believe MFP got that information from the National Institute of Health.

https://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/1375583-a-message-about-myfitnesspal-s-updated-nutrition-goals

and it's likely that 1200 wouldn't be enough for you.

Give it time and try eating more. Then it's more likely that you will keep the weight loss and not gain weight back. It is a high chance that if you don't eat enough, you'll end up binging as soon as you ''get rid of the weight'' (and quickly) and gain the weight back plus more.

Ha, in fact, if you bothered to read the document from the NIH, you will note on Chapter 4, Page 74, the following phrase:

A patient may choose a diet of 1,000 to 1,200 kcal for women and 1,200 to 1,500 kcal for men.

Ahem... "BAM."

Zedeff wrote: »

Ha, in fact, if you bothered to read the document from the NIH, you will note on Chapter 4, Page 74, the following phrase:

A patient may choose a diet of 1,000 to 1,200 kcal for women and 1,200 to 1,500 kcal for men.

Ahem... "BAM."

The same document is designed to address "overweight and obese" individuals, per BMI guidelines. Based on their own table, the OP does not classify as either (has a sub-25 BMI). So this "patient" should probably not "choose a diet of 1,000 to 1,200 kcal". So you are basically picking a fight that doesn't actually apply to this particular situation. Good job.

mantium999 wrote: »

Zedeff wrote: »

Ha, in fact, if you bothered to read the document from the NIH, you will note on Chapter 4, Page 74, the following phrase:

A patient may choose a diet of 1,000 to 1,200 kcal for women and 1,200 to 1,500 kcal for men.

Ahem... "BAM."

The same document is designed to address "overweight and obese" individuals, per BMI guidelines. Based on their own table, the OP does not classify as either (has a sub-25 BMI). So this "patient" should probably not "choose a diet of 1,000 to 1,200 kcal". So you are basically picking a fight that doesn't actually apply to this particular situation. Good job.

Exactly. In no fantasy world is it healthy for a 6', 165-lb, 22-year-old person to eat 1,000 calories a day.

shell1005 wrote: »

Zedeff wrote: »

Ha, in fact, if you bothered to read the document from the NIH, you will note on Chapter 4, Page 74, the following phrase:

A patient may choose a diet of 1,000 to 1,200 kcal for women and 1,200 to 1,500 kcal for men.

Ahem... "BAM."

If you bothered to read the sentence you quoted, it says patient. Not quite the same.

And to answer your initial question as to WHO made that recommendation. MFP. You know the place where we signed up and agreed to their terms of service. Them, that's who.

I like how you logic

Zedeff wrote: »

Ha, in fact, if you bothered to read the document from the NIH, you will note on Chapter 4, Page 74, the following phrase:

A patient may choose a diet of 1,000 to 1,200 kcal for women and 1,200 to 1,500 kcal for men.

Ahem... "BAM."

The word 'patient' implies that their diet is under the supervision of a qualified physician. Those guides are also for people of average height. OP has stated she's 6' tall, well over the national average for women in any nation.

Also look at the title of the document "Clinical Guidelines on the Identification, evaluation and treatment of overweight and obesity in adults". Once again, OP has a healthy BMI (she's 6' tall. As a girl who's 6'1, I can't believe she'd even attempt 1000Cal a day), and should not eat that low, no matter what the guidelines say.

@georgiarosea I've gone and done the calculation for TDEE for you. If you're completely sedentary, an 0.5kg / 1lb a week weight loss still requires you eat 1400Calories a day. Add in exercise, and it's more. Yes it will take longer for you to lose the weight, but you'll feel better in the process. Besides, what is an extra month compared to the rest of your life?

Also taken from the same article "From the 25 RCT articles with a duration
of ³ 6 months, compared to controls, LCDs
brought about a mean weight loss of approximately
8 percent of body weight over a period of
6 months and up to 1 year. The nine studies
with an intervention lasting from 3 months up
to 6 months also averaged approximately 8 percent
weight loss compared to controls."

A 200 lb person, losing 8%, over six months, equates to 16 lbs, or 2.66 lbs per month. 16 lbs, times 3500 calories per pound, is a 56,000 calorie deficit. That equates to a weekly deficit of 2333, or a daily deficit of 333. A 5'5, 200lb woman, with little to no activity level, has an approx TDEE of 2000. Subtract 333 calories, and they should lose the same 16lbs over 6 months by consuming 1667 calories. This suggests that the LCD was no more effective than eating at a moderate deficit.

DuckReconMajor wrote: »

The National Institutes of Health indicates that eating plans of 1,500 calories for men, and 1,200 calories for women, are safe and effective in achieving weight loss. To align with these guidelines myfitnesspal has implemented a separate calorie minimum for males of 1,500 calories per day. Previously, the minimum was 1,200 calories for both men and women.

Wait, MFP gave me a goal in the 1300s and doesn't yell at me unless I go under 1200. I am set as Male. Am I missing something?

There was a bug that was giving people goals of like 700--maybe you signed up during that period? I recommend going into goals and running your numbers again.

wosslogic wrote: »

Not OP, but people don't realize that 1200 isn't enough for VERY short people to lose weight. I maintained for three months on 1200 and have only started losing weight since I started sticking to 1000... It sucks a LOT, but it's actually necessary

And that comes up when a short person makes a thread, but OP is six feet tall.