doctor suggested low carb diet
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cassidyamymommy wrote: »i was in the emergency yesterday and while everything turned out alright, the doctor had a discussion about my weight. being 277 pounds, 30 years old and only 5'4 i seriously need help. she went on a whole thing about how i need to cut out carbs and go on a low carb diet, that eating more protein and veggies will keep me fuller longer and help me lose the weight. after being on here i have seen so much hate towards diets like this. i am so confused as to what to do. I am tried the eat what i want aslong as it fits in my calorie budget, but have always failed because i kept feeling super hungry and would eventually go over. i am in desparate need of help with this.
Assuming you're eating a typical American diet, yeah, relative to what you ate to get to 277, you're going to have to cut a whack of carbs calories from your diet.
fixed it for you
You didn't fix anything - on the contrary, as usual you went and broke something.
OP is almost certainly not going to be able to maintain reasonable macros AND a caloric deficit without cutting a whack of carbs.
she weighs 277 pounds...
by reducing her overall intake by 25% she will lose weight.
but if that is breaking something, then I would hate to see your fix.
SAD is 50% carbs, 35% fat, 15% protein. For a 25% reduction, those numbers need to total 75.
You're sure as heck not going to reduct protein intake, leaving the other two. Let's assume the reduction is split roughly evenly across fat and carb macros, so carbs drop to 35% and fat drops to 25%.
Going from 50->35 is dropping carb intake by a third, which is a huge reduction.
Bottom line, OP ain't getting anywhere without cutting a whack of carbs caloris from their intake.
and fixed it for your again ..0 -
carb timing has nothing to do with anything.
apart from when it influences eating intervals through hunger ....
http://ajpregu.physiology.org/content/277/2/R337
sample of ten...?
I found this telling that he didn't read the study but just cherry picked:
"It was shown that the intermeal interval between the drink and the meal was consistently longer after the fat-rich drink compared with the simple carbohydrate drink and that total subsequent food intake did not differ in energy content or macronutrient composition. Thus, in this case when timing was the dependent variable, it showed that subsequent food intake was quite constant, whereas the usual preload experiments show that when timing is fixed, people differ in food intake "
In fact, when subjects had the fat drink actually ate 500 calories more after the first two drink but this was not considered a significant difference due to the high variance. In other words the study conlcluded that the timing differs but intake does not.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »The other issue with certain carbs is they are addictive - they give you a buzz and that causes the brain to seek more of them! So reducing carbs and replacing the white ones with brown ones (in general) will help.
Personally I low carb all the time but spike them post weight training to maximise the anabolic properties of insulin for muscle growth and to reduce fat storage - works a treat! This is just a snippet of what I do but it works and it's worked for many others too! All the best, Paul
Please avoid all carbs = drugs arguments, they aren't productive. Thanks.
Don't advise me what to say - I am trying to help this person!0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »carb timing has nothing to do with anything.
apart from when it influences eating intervals through hunger ....
http://ajpregu.physiology.org/content/277/2/R337
sample of ten...?
I found this telling that he didn't read the study but just cherry picked:
"It was shown that the intermeal interval between the drink and the meal was consistently longer after the fat-rich drink compared with the simple carbohydrate drink and that total subsequent food intake did not differ in energy content or macronutrient composition. Thus, in this case when timing was the dependent variable, it showed that subsequent food intake was quite constant, whereas the usual preload experiments show that when timing is fixed, people differ in food intake "
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »The other issue with certain carbs is they are addictive - they give you a buzz and that causes the brain to seek more of them! So reducing carbs and replacing the white ones with brown ones (in general) will help.
Personally I low carb all the time but spike them post weight training to maximise the anabolic properties of insulin for muscle growth and to reduce fat storage - works a treat! This is just a snippet of what I do but it works and it's worked for many others too! All the best, Paul
Please avoid all carbs = drugs arguments, they aren't productive. Thanks.
Don't advise me what to say - I am trying to help this person!
are you going to backup your claim that carbs are addictive?0 -
GauchoMark wrote: »GauchoMark wrote: »Now my opinion -
Probably the BEST thing you can do for yourself is use MFP to your advantage. Set up your calorie deficit, then set up your macros (protein/fat/carbs) to a healthy ratio (just shooting from the hip, 40% protein, 30% fats/carbs works well for most), log all your foods and try to hit your macro goals. If you do that, I would bet that you will see how imbalanced your current diet really is.
What your doctor is saying is not that bad of advice, but she is generalizing what works for her and what she thinks about you without really taking the time to get info about what you really do.
40% protein is above the Acceptable Macronutrient Distribution Range of 10 - 35% of calories from protein.
fair enough, but who cares about AMDR? People that are trying not to starve.
"Acceptable Macronutrient Distribution Ranges (AMDRs), which aim to minimize chronic disease risk while maintaining adequate macronutrient intakes against the back drop of adequate energy intake and physical activity, were also introduced"
If you care about not losing muscle mass during weight loss, those recommendations are low IMO and in the opinions of many. You really need to quote protein numbers from a sports nutrition source since we, in this forum, tend not to worry about starving to death. That said, I stated that I was shooting from the hip. If you really get to it, setting macro intakes using percentages is not a good idea.
Remember that 40% of a lower number may still be less than 35% of a higher one (deficit vs. maintenance).
Eg. 1400cal*.4=560cal or 2000cal*.35=700 cal. So 40% in this case is still in the range of the recommended amount.0 -
While there is a lot of good advice on this thread it also contains a lot of non sense. IMO (we all have them don't we), hehehe I would suggest you go with the 40/30/30 macro that was mentioned earlier and focus your carbs around complex carbs not simple carbs. Carbs are NOT the enemy but everyone has a different response to them. I lost about 60 lbs following the above macros. Calorie deficit reduces weight. Low carb helps to speed things up a little but 1-2 lbs a week is what you should be shooting for anyway. When I get strict with my diet...say before beach vacation I'll drop carbs to non bread carbs but I still eat my fruit and veggies. The main problem with excess carbs is your body turns carbs into sugar and any unburned sugar gets stored as fat. As someone mentioned earlier his heavy carbs come right after his workout. I do this too but EVERY-BODY is different. You have to find what works for you.
At 277 lbs I'm guessing your diet contained a lot of unhealthy foods/ fast foods, packaged food and junk foods. If you cut these out along with Soda, cookies, cakes and candies and eat like your Dr said "real food" you will find that you are not hungry and the weight is falling off. Eating healthier foods will allow you to eat more food and you will not be hungry. Spread your food over 6-8 meals every 2 or so hours and drink lots of water and you'll never be starving. When we are starving we tend to make poor food choices. Also prepare your food in advance for the work week so you're never tempted for that 1000 calorie BK run that others make.
My last suggestion is this. Educate yourself on proper eating. God has provided us with wonderful food but the fast food / restaurant places have taken all the thinking out of meals and destroyed our way of eating.
Good Luck to you and God Bless.0 -
cassidyamymommy wrote: »i was in the emergency yesterday and while everything turned out alright, the doctor had a discussion about my weight. being 277 pounds, 30 years old and only 5'4 i seriously need help. she went on a whole thing about how i need to cut out carbs and go on a low carb diet, that eating more protein and veggies will keep me fuller longer and help me lose the weight. after being on here i have seen so much hate towards diets like this. i am so confused as to what to do. I am tried the eat what i want aslong as it fits in my calorie budget, but have always failed because i kept feeling super hungry and would eventually go over. i am in desparate need of help with this.
Assuming you're eating a typical American diet, yeah, relative to what you ate to get to 277, you're going to have to cut a whack of carbs calories from your diet.
fixed it for you
You didn't fix anything - on the contrary, as usual you went and broke something.
OP is almost certainly not going to be able to maintain reasonable macros AND a caloric deficit without cutting a whack of carbs.
she weighs 277 pounds...
by reducing her overall intake by 25% she will lose weight.
but if that is breaking something, then I would hate to see your fix.
SAD is 50% carbs, 35% fat, 15% protein. For a 25% reduction, those numbers need to total 75.
You're sure as heck not going to reduct protein intake, leaving the other two. Let's assume the reduction is split roughly evenly across fat and carb macros, so carbs drop to 35% and fat drops to 25%.
Going from 50->35 is dropping carb intake by a third, which is a huge reduction.
Bottom line, OP ain't getting anywhere without cutting a whack of carbs from their intake.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the percentages always have to equal 100? You can't reduce your macro percentages by 25, they always total 100% of your total calories. So your percentages will remain the same, it's your grams of each that decrease. Or did I read this wrong?0 -
cassidyamymommy wrote: »i was in the emergency yesterday and while everything turned out alright, the doctor had a discussion about my weight. being 277 pounds, 30 years old and only 5'4 i seriously need help. she went on a whole thing about how i need to cut out carbs and go on a low carb diet, that eating more protein and veggies will keep me fuller longer and help me lose the weight. after being on here i have seen so much hate towards diets like this. i am so confused as to what to do. I am tried the eat what i want aslong as it fits in my calorie budget, but have always failed because i kept feeling super hungry and would eventually go over. i am in desparate need of help with this.
Assuming you're eating a typical American diet, yeah, relative to what you ate to get to 277, you're going to have to cut a whack of carbs calories from your diet.
fixed it for you
You didn't fix anything - on the contrary, as usual you went and broke something.
OP is almost certainly not going to be able to maintain reasonable macros AND a caloric deficit without cutting a whack of carbs.
she weighs 277 pounds...
by reducing her overall intake by 25% she will lose weight.
but if that is breaking something, then I would hate to see your fix.
SAD is 50% carbs, 35% fat, 15% protein. For a 25% reduction, those numbers need to total 75.
You're sure as heck not going to reduct protein intake, leaving the other two. Let's assume the reduction is split roughly evenly across fat and carb macros, so carbs drop to 35% and fat drops to 25%.
Going from 50->35 is dropping carb intake by a third, which is a huge reduction.
Bottom line, OP ain't getting anywhere without cutting a whack of carbs from their intake.
Did OP send you her macro breakdown?
Which part of , explicitly stated "SAD" assumption did you not comprehend? Plus if I don't have them, neither do you, which makes your comments even less relevant.
And we haven't adequately dealt with protein intake. It really probably should go up, which means to keep things isocaloric, carb intake will need to come down further.
So we're likely looking at a 40%-ish cut in carbs.
And yeah...that size cut qualifies as a "whack of carbs"....
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »The other issue with certain carbs is they are addictive - they give you a buzz and that causes the brain to seek more of them! So reducing carbs and replacing the white ones with brown ones (in general) will help.
Personally I low carb all the time but spike them post weight training to maximise the anabolic properties of insulin for muscle growth and to reduce fat storage - works a treat! This is just a snippet of what I do but it works and it's worked for many others too! All the best, Paul
Please avoid all carbs = drugs arguments, they aren't productive. Thanks.
Don't advise me what to say - I am trying to help this person!
You aren't being helpful.0 -
Given that you are almost 300 lbs, it's safe to assume you have some degree of insulin resistance- which is most likely why your doctor recommended a low carb diet.
By the way, low carb doesn't mean you need to net 50 grams a day. Even 100-125 grams a day would be much better than how many carbs you are eating now.0 -
cassidyamymommy wrote: »i was in the emergency yesterday and while everything turned out alright, the doctor had a discussion about my weight. being 277 pounds, 30 years old and only 5'4 i seriously need help. she went on a whole thing about how i need to cut out carbs and go on a low carb diet, that eating more protein and veggies will keep me fuller longer and help me lose the weight. after being on here i have seen so much hate towards diets like this. i am so confused as to what to do. I am tried the eat what i want aslong as it fits in my calorie budget, but have always failed because i kept feeling super hungry and would eventually go over. i am in desparate need of help with this.
Assuming you're eating a typical American diet, yeah, relative to what you ate to get to 277, you're going to have to cut a whack of carbs calories from your diet.
fixed it for you
You didn't fix anything - on the contrary, as usual you went and broke something.
OP is almost certainly not going to be able to maintain reasonable macros AND a caloric deficit without cutting a whack of carbs.
she weighs 277 pounds...
by reducing her overall intake by 25% she will lose weight.
but if that is breaking something, then I would hate to see your fix.
SAD is 50% carbs, 35% fat, 15% protein. For a 25% reduction, those numbers need to total 75.
You're sure as heck not going to reduct protein intake, leaving the other two. Let's assume the reduction is split roughly evenly across fat and carb macros, so carbs drop to 35% and fat drops to 25%.
Going from 50->35 is dropping carb intake by a third, which is a huge reduction.
Bottom line, OP ain't getting anywhere without cutting a whack of carbs from their intake.
Did OP send you her macro breakdown?
Which part of , explicitly stated "SAD" assumption did you not comprehend? Plus if I don't have them, neither do you, which makes your comments even less relevant.
And we haven't adequately dealt with protein intake. It really probably should go up, which means to keep things isocaloric, carb intake will need to come down further.
So we're likely looking at a 40%-ish cut in carbs.
And yeah...that size cut qualifies as a "whack of carbs"....
I can agree in a way but it's not so much the macros but the micros and amount of calories that are at issue. My diet is about 55/25/20 and works well for maintaining me at below 10% BF, thank you very much. It's the food composition and intake vs output that is the issue. Most people eat a very "grey" diet where they eat few fruits and vegitables and eat a lot of processed foods and far too many of them.
To me it's not the macros and evidence doesn't really shown them to be the issue. It is rather the amount and composition of the foods. You have people eating 80/10/10 and other eating 20/70/10 and other extremes and both can have great blood work numbers and be very healthy. What they do tend to have is good micronutrients and an above average food selection where they favour whole foods over highly processed.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Given that you are almost 300 lbs, it's safe to assume you have some degree of insulin resistance- which is most likely why your doctor recommended a low carb diet.
By the way, low carb doesn't mean you need to net 50 grams a day. Even 100-125 grams a day would be much better than how many carbs you are eating now.
Yup. I try to "net" 100 carbs a day - so that's usually 120ish grams of carbs, with 20 grams of fiber coming from veg and fruit and whole grains. It's just 1 million times easier to stick to my calorie target that way than it is when I'm not looking at carbs at all. I still have bread, just less of it (and it's multigrain, which I find more filling). (I would call this a "moderate" carb diet, though.)0 -
LynnSullivan1 wrote: »You just posted 2 egg omelette with yogurt. Sounds healthy, but consult the back of the yogurt carton and see how many carbs are there. There are likely around 36. Try finding some Carbsmart yogurt - available at Fry's/Smith's/others in the Kroger chain. It has 4 and I can eat it without rebound hunger. Another thing I've found is that if I eat carbs earlier in the day, it sets up my body's expectation for more sugar/carbs and I was crazy hungry all the rest of the one day I ate watermelon at noon. Keep a food and feeling diary and log both to see what works for you. If you want to friend me, I'd welcome it.
that sentence makes no sense...
carb timing has nothing to do with anything.
Any other insights into how other people feel when they eat? I suggest you market that incredible skill before someone figures out how to replicate your food ESP...0 -
accidentalpancake wrote: »LynnSullivan1 wrote: »You just posted 2 egg omelette with yogurt. Sounds healthy, but consult the back of the yogurt carton and see how many carbs are there. There are likely around 36. Try finding some Carbsmart yogurt - available at Fry's/Smith's/others in the Kroger chain. It has 4 and I can eat it without rebound hunger. Another thing I've found is that if I eat carbs earlier in the day, it sets up my body's expectation for more sugar/carbs and I was crazy hungry all the rest of the one day I ate watermelon at noon. Keep a food and feeling diary and log both to see what works for you. If you want to friend me, I'd welcome it.
that sentence makes no sense...
carb timing has nothing to do with anything.
Any other insights into how other people feel when they eat? I suggest you market that incredible skill before someone figures out how to replicate your food ESP...
Timing is affected, as we saw in the study postsed, due to blood glucose spikes and dives but it doesn't affect weight or overall calories consumed. I've noticed that if I eat a high carb meal that is low in fat and protein I do get hungry faster and that the hunger is more aggressive but it also goes away faster. If I eat a more balanced meal or low carb meal the hunger returns slower and is less aggressive, at least at first. I guess the idea it to make sure your meals are balanced to avoid spikes and dives.0 -
cassidyamymommy wrote: »she was telling me to get rid of bread/pasta/corn and potatoes and all that good stuff. she told me anything from a box is no good, that i need to eat real food.
I've gone low carb and feel much better overall. I've cut out bread and pasta and don't miss them. I eat corn and potatoes (and sweet potatoes) sparingly. I generally don't miss them, LOL! All of my carbs now come from vegetable sources.
Make sure you eat plenty of protein and fats....both of which will keep you from getting hungry.0 -
cassidyamymommy wrote: »i was in the emergency yesterday and while everything turned out alright, the doctor had a discussion about my weight. being 277 pounds, 30 years old and only 5'4 i seriously need help. she went on a whole thing about how i need to cut out carbs and go on a low carb diet, that eating more protein and veggies will keep me fuller longer and help me lose the weight. after being on here i have seen so much hate towards diets like this. i am so confused as to what to do. I am tried the eat what i want aslong as it fits in my calorie budget, but have always failed because i kept feeling super hungry and would eventually go over. i am in desparate need of help with this.
Assuming you're eating a typical American diet, yeah, relative to what you ate to get to 277, you're going to have to cut a whack of carbs calories from your diet.
fixed it for you
You didn't fix anything - on the contrary, as usual you went and broke something.
OP is almost certainly not going to be able to maintain reasonable macros AND a caloric deficit without cutting a whack of carbs.
she weighs 277 pounds...
by reducing her overall intake by 25% she will lose weight.
but if that is breaking something, then I would hate to see your fix.
SAD is 50% carbs, 35% fat, 15% protein. For a 25% reduction, those numbers need to total 75.
You're sure as heck not going to reduct protein intake, leaving the other two. Let's assume the reduction is split roughly evenly across fat and carb macros, so carbs drop to 35% and fat drops to 25%.
Going from 50->35 is dropping carb intake by a third, which is a huge reduction.
Bottom line, OP ain't getting anywhere without cutting a whack of carbs from their intake.
Personally, I agree with this, especially given what OP has said about her diet.
What I don't agree with is that she needs to go "low carb" (let alone keto), as some on this thread are suggesting or that she shouldn't worry about cutting fats at all or how much fat she eats (as others have suggested).
IF she eats a SAD (or the worst version of it), then she's likely not simply overeating carbs, but specifically overeating non nutrient dense carbs and lots of fatty foods also. Focusing on cutting out carbs or telling her to avoid greek yogurt (or find special low carb yogurt) seems to be missing the point.
Many people find that if they cut more processed carbs and lower nutrient carbs and also if they switch out some of their fat or switch from some higher fat to lower fat sources of protein they can easily cut calories while not feeling any less full or satisfied. Eating more veggies and even fruits can help with this, as can increasing fiber (which it sounds like OP might not want to cut, IMO, given the reason she was in the emergency room). Often this means finding a better balance, not deciding that carbs are the problem and a low carb diet is necessary.0 -
eileensofianmushinfine wrote: »Make sure you eat plenty of protein and fats....both of which will keep you from getting hungry.
The thing is, what keeps people satisfied varies.
I think in general high fat/high carb diets are not filling and that protein tends to be. However, IME how filling carbs are really depends on the carb. Other people find that carbs are necessarily to feel satiated.
Moreover, for me -- although obviously not for everyone -- fats really aren't that filling. Going really low fat is not satisfying because I enjoy fats and miss them, but I've found that so long as I have a little fat and adequate protein I am just as full on a relatively low fat breakfast with lots of carbs and protein as on my usual breakfast that is pretty balanced between all three macros. And the few times (like this morning) that I had a relatively high fat and lower in protein and carbs breakfast I've felt hungrier earlier.
So to presume how others will react to a particular macro breakdown is wrong, IMO.
Certainly what OP should do, given that she has not been able to eat less without being hungry is to change her diet, and likely reducing carbs somewhat and, especially, reducing high cal/low nutrient foods and replacing with lower cal/higher nutrient foods (ideally with more fiber, IMO, as something to try) would seem a good choice.
What I'd recommend is logging how she normally eats and then thinking about good ways to change it up.
A referral to an RD is not a bad idea either.0 -
cassidyamymommy wrote: »i was in the emergency yesterday and while everything turned out alright, the doctor had a discussion about my weight. being 277 pounds, 30 years old and only 5'4 i seriously need help. she went on a whole thing about how i need to cut out carbs and go on a low carb diet, that eating more protein and veggies will keep me fuller longer and help me lose the weight. after being on here i have seen so much hate towards diets like this. i am so confused as to what to do. I am tried the eat what i want aslong as it fits in my calorie budget, but have always failed because i kept feeling super hungry and would eventually go over. i am in desparate need of help with this.
Assuming you're eating a typical American diet, yeah, relative to what you ate to get to 277, you're going to have to cut a whack of carbs calories from your diet.
fixed it for you
You didn't fix anything - on the contrary, as usual you went and broke something.
OP is almost certainly not going to be able to maintain reasonable macros AND a caloric deficit without cutting a whack of carbs.
she weighs 277 pounds...
by reducing her overall intake by 25% she will lose weight.
but if that is breaking something, then I would hate to see your fix.
SAD is 50% carbs, 35% fat, 15% protein. For a 25% reduction, those numbers need to total 75.
You're sure as heck not going to reduct protein intake, leaving the other two. Let's assume the reduction is split roughly evenly across fat and carb macros, so carbs drop to 35% and fat drops to 25%.
Going from 50->35 is dropping carb intake by a third, which is a huge reduction.
Bottom line, OP ain't getting anywhere without cutting a whack of carbs from their intake.
Did OP send you her macro breakdown?
Which part of , explicitly stated "SAD" assumption did you not comprehend? Plus if I don't have them, neither do you, which makes your comments even less relevant.
And we haven't adequately dealt with protein intake. It really probably should go up, which means to keep things isocaloric, carb intake will need to come down further.
So we're likely looking at a 40%-ish cut in carbs.
And yeah...that size cut qualifies as a "whack of carbscalories"....
you are making assumptions about her macro intake without in fact knowing what it is.
My assumption is that at 277 pounds she needs to reduce all calories. I am basing this on actual information provided, which is her weight at 277 pounds.
You, on the other hand, are making an assumption based on absolutely nothing that the OP has said.
So, I will stick with my original assertion that OP needs to reduce overall calories by 25%.
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GauchoMark wrote: »GauchoMark wrote: »Now my opinion -
Probably the BEST thing you can do for yourself is use MFP to your advantage. Set up your calorie deficit, then set up your macros (protein/fat/carbs) to a healthy ratio (just shooting from the hip, 40% protein, 30% fats/carbs works well for most), log all your foods and try to hit your macro goals. If you do that, I would bet that you will see how imbalanced your current diet really is.
What your doctor is saying is not that bad of advice, but she is generalizing what works for her and what she thinks about you without really taking the time to get info about what you really do.
40% protein is above the Acceptable Macronutrient Distribution Range of 10 - 35% of calories from protein.
fair enough, but who cares about AMDR? People that are trying not to starve.
Over 35% calories from protein is generally considered excessive (and hence unnecessary).
The RDI covers the needs of the population, the bottom end of the AMDR addresses "people trying not to starve".
Your 60% fat macro is a good bit above the recommended upper limit too.0 -
Starting when I was close to being morbidly obese and without MFP, I counted carbs limiting them to 45 to 65 grams per meal and lost weight. I began to eat leaner cuts of meat. Then I started counting calories and lost weight consistently at a rate of 2 lbs per week. Interestingly when I started MFP I had to tighten up my carbs and fats to stay within my macros and calories. I eat fish that is baked or broiled, 5 times a week, use non fat dairy, fresh fruit and vegetables, and have continued to lose 2 pounds per week. I rarely eat pasta or bread and do not crave or miss it like I thought I might. Watching the scale go lower and lower each week makes the sacrifice worth it.0
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carb timing has nothing to do with anything.
apart from when it influences eating intervals through hunger ....
http://ajpregu.physiology.org/content/277/2/R337
These are liquids. It's acknowledged liquid carbohydrates tend to have no impact on satiety.0 -
LynnSullivan1 wrote: »ndj1979, it makes perfect sense because your body releases insulin (which causes your body not only to store fat but also induces cravings). The body releases insulin for the meal you just ate as well as predicts your next meal will have a similar carb/glycemic load and release a similar amount at that next meal. My reaction may be exacerbated due to my diabetes/dysfunctional metabolism, but... it certainly does make sense medically.
Do know what it insulin actually signals to "store" fat? It signals a cell to store fat. Your body doesn't just let fat float out your gut in the absence of insulin signals. It just lets them sit around in the body outside of cells. This is part of why diabetics tend to have high triglycerides, even at normal body fat levels.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »The other issue with certain carbs is they are addictive - they give you a buzz and that causes the brain to seek more of them! So reducing carbs and replacing the white ones with brown ones (in general) will help.
Personally I low carb all the time but spike them post weight training to maximise the anabolic properties of insulin for muscle growth and to reduce fat storage - works a treat! This is just a snippet of what I do but it works and it's worked for many others too! All the best, Paul
Please avoid all carbs = drugs arguments, they aren't productive. Thanks.
Don't advise me what to say - I am trying to help this person!
Don't advise him on how to advise you.0 -
cassidyamymommy wrote: »i have to say, so far so good really....had a 2 egg omlette with cheese and spinach and some banana greek yogurt and im not hungry again, when usually i would be starving again. also am enjoying my lime water lol
FYI: banana Greek yogurt is probably full o' carbs. Even plain Greek yogurt has 7g-12g, depending on brand and fat level. Bananas are almost all carbs.
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I like the low carb approach, as long as you increase your intake of healthy fats (good quality butter - yes, I know-, avocados, coconut oil. I have two people in my family who cured their diabetes this way and lost weight too. I myself follow a very low carb diet.
Try not to get desperate. I know it's difficult, but you're alive and able to change.
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- Your doctor is right
You're confusing cravings with hunger. If you "hate" healthy foods, good luck. You will have to learn to love yourself first. You're worth it.
This is not about your feelings (it totally is, since this is what's preventing you from changing), but fundamentally it's about your health and longevity.
The truth is your BODY is STARVING nutrients when you mostly eat carbs. You can be morbidly obese and starving to death.. You won't feel it inside your stomach because it'll be full of empty calories (any kind of processed crap) but your body will get hurt in the long run: no nutrients to keep it healthy and alive. Being fat doesn't mean you're satiated, keep that in mind. We fat shame people a lot, a little too much. On the other hand you can be a professional alcoholic with a very low BMI. Do you think that's better?
My main question is: Why didn't you tell your doctor about how you felt about that diet? Instead of coming here and ask people who are just gonna end up trying to be right and tell others they're wrong?0 -
- Your doctor is right
You're confusing cravings with hunger. If you "hate" healthy foods, good luck. You will have to learn to love yourself first. You're worth it.
This is not about your feelings (it totally is, since this is what's preventing you from changing), but fundamentally it's about your health and longevity.
The truth is your BODY is STARVING nutrients when you mostly eat carbs. You can be morbidly obese and starving to death.. You won't feel it inside your stomach because it'll be full of empty calories (any kind of processed crap) but your body will get hurt in the long run: no nutrients to keep it healthy and alive. Being fat doesn't mean you're satiated, keep that in mind. We fat shame people a lot, a little too much. On the other hand you can be a professional alcoholic with a very low BMI. Do you think that's better?
My main question is: Why didn't you tell your doctor about how you felt about that diet? Instead of coming here and ask people who are just gonna end up trying to be right and tell others they're wrong?
oh please…
First, when you eat carbs you starve your body of nutrients, really?? I eat 200+ carbs a day and I have no issues hitting macros.
Second, you can eat processed food, lose weight, and be health.
finally, lets stop with the fear mongering.
wow0 -
- Your doctor is right
You're confusing cravings with hunger. If you "hate" healthy foods, good luck. You will have to learn to love yourself first. You're worth it.
This is not about your feelings (it totally is, since this is what's preventing you from changing), but fundamentally it's about your health and longevity.
The truth is your BODY is STARVING nutrients when you mostly eat carbs. You can be morbidly obese and starving to death.. You won't feel it inside your stomach because it'll be full of empty calories (any kind of processed crap) but your body will get hurt in the long run: no nutrients to keep it healthy and alive. Being fat doesn't mean you're satiated, keep that in mind. We fat shame people a lot, a little too much. On the other hand you can be a professional alcoholic with a very low BMI. Do you think that's better?
My main question is: Why didn't you tell your doctor about how you felt about that diet? Instead of coming here and ask people who are just gonna end up trying to be right and tell others they're wrong?
There are just way to many issues here to deal with constructively. You put a lot of words in someone's mouth and need to take a basic nutrition course to find out what carbs are.0
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