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Point being, I don't think that a diet that includes more high quality protein is responsible for the mortality rate in the US compared to other areas of the world.
While a diet that consists of 70% carbohydrate may be survivable, I would not depict it as healthy.
If I take protein out of your diet and only fed you Fat & Carbohydrate ,,,, you would die because I just cut off your source of essential amino acids.
If I take out Fat and only feed you Protein & Carbohydrates ..... again, you would die because I just cutoff your source of essential fats.
The trend over the last 50-60 years has been to avoid fats and replace them with carbohydrates and the increase in the incidence of obesity is paralleling that curve. Correlation or Causation?0 -
Point being, I don't think that a diet that includes more high quality protein is responsible for the mortality rate in the US compared to other areas of the world.
While a diet that consists of 70% carbohydrate may be survivable, I would not depict it as healthy.
If I take protein out of your diet and only fed you Fat & Carbohydrate ,,,, you would die because I just cut off your source of essential amino acids.
If I take out Fat and only feed you Protein & Carbohydrates ..... again, you would die because I just cutoff your source of essential fats.
The trend over the last 50-60 years has been to avoid fats and replace them with carbohydrates and the increase in the incidence of obesity is paralleling that curve. Correlation or Causation?
I will relay your concerns to the Okinawans, whose diet is 60-85% carbs...oops, sorry, I will have died by then as they out live us all.
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Endurance athletes using slow release carbs and fat are not uncommon
I did this ride fasted and drank two 100 calorie carb based thermogenic drinks during the ride.
It is the function of your mitochondria to source fat as fuel when carbs run out.
My internal medicine specialist got me on moderate to low carb and exercise to reverse my type 2 diabetes.
So it can happen and you can take control and make things better
This was my ride today. Burn was mainly fat. I have lost over 125 lbs of body fat.
I have made this work at 50-100 carbs a day. Not super low. But if you get your carbs thru fibrous veggies it takes some eating.
Good luck! And of course you know you can't eat more calories than you need.
High or low carb, your CICO equation holds true.
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I will relay your concerns to the Okinawans, whose diet is 60-85% carbs...oops, sorry, I will have died by then as they out live us all.
Don't forget the Inuits. I'll bet they eat a lot of carbs with all those Klondike Bars.
Good job!professionalHobbyist wrote: »OP
This was my ride today. Burn was mainly fat. I have lost over 125 lbs of body fat.
I have made this work at 50-100 carbs a day. Not super low. But if you get your carbs thru fibrous veggies it
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Liftng4Lis wrote: »kangaroux92 wrote: »thanks for the thoughts , i think i will try it out for a while to see how i feel.
i know carbs are bad anyway and it makes so much sence to me.
carbs are used for quick energy and our body uses it firs. so if your body has less carbs it will get energy from fat instead.
at least thats what ive been told.RockstarWilson wrote: »People people people. A high fat diet is not an entitlement, but a tool. CICO is a form the Law of Conservation of Energy takes (see what I did there?). Fat takes more energy to digest, therefore it takes more time, and furthermore you get hungry less.
Carbs ARE NOT the preferred energy source of the body. If that were the case, it wouldn't push those out first. If you allow it to, the body runs very well on fats and moderate proteins.
As far as fruits and veggies go...my bowels hate them. They cause me gas something fierce, so I consume them sparingly. Spinach is awesome, though. And pineapples, when they are on sale.
I am 10 months high fat dieting (sometimes keto), I eat a TON of saturated fats, I am 35 lbs overweight, and I have an almost perfect lipid panel. That's what I think.
Uh..No. http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/is-fat-preferred-fuel-source-body-qa.html/
"So what happens when you provide the body with both carbs and fats in the diet? Which fuel source is preferred? Well the answer is clear: carbs."
You are quoting a body recomposition site for nutritional science. There are many reasons why this isnt the best idea. You would be most useful if you shared information from someone educated in nutrition at a higher level.
YOU do realize that that is Lyle McDonald, right? Sorry but he's definitely a credible source.
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I am 69 and on 40% carb, 30% protein, 30% fat. Is this a low carb or high carb program. Help please. I am confused with the back and forth. I just want to stay healthy. Age is a number, energy etc is most important. Thank you.0
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I am 69 and on 40% carb, 30% protein, 30% fat. Is this a low carb or high carb program. Help please. I am confused with the back and forth. I just want to stay healthy. Age is a number, energy etc is most important. Thank you.
That's restricted carbohydrate, as the bog standard recommendation is 50 or more. Increased protein might be another description.0 -
I am 69 and on 40% carb, 30% protein, 30% fat. Is this a low carb or high carb program. Help please. I am confused with the back and forth. I just want to stay healthy. Age is a number, energy etc is most important. Thank you.
Unfortunately you will see lots of bickering on MFP and it really is not helpful at all
Lots of people just watch total calories. They go by the age old formula of CICO, calories in and calories out. Meaning you can't take more in than you burn off
You can eat fewer sugar and starch foods, which means you are eliminating some carbs, and lose weight. Or you can eat a variety of foods and not worry so much about it as long as you get a sensible balance of nutrition
The big thing is to eat less than your body needs so it burns off some fat.
It isn't really complicated.
If you can get in some walking or exercise your body is ready for then so much the better.
Best wishes!
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(Right now there is lots of strong talk back and forth about carbs and sugar here. People seem to do it to amuse themselves and distract or annoy everyone else.)I am 69 and on 40% carb, 30% protein, 30% fat. Is this a low carb or high carb program. Help please. I am confused with the back and forth. I just want to stay healthy. Age is a number, energy etc is most important. Thank you.
Your numbers are about right. My carbs are set at 35% but do not pay attention to the carb number at all. I focus on getting enough protein because it is the most important.
You might like to check out this group:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/104713-fifty-plus-or-so-support-group0 -
I don't know what app you're using but every time you post pics of your bike rides the calorie burn seems way inflated. That's a pound of fat in 2 hours.professionalHobbyist wrote: »OP
Endurance athletes using slow release carbs and fat are not uncommon
I did this ride fasted and drank two 100 calorie carb based thermogenic drinks during the ride.
It is the function of your mitochondria to source fat as fuel when carbs run out.
My internal medicine specialist got me on moderate to low carb and exercise to reverse my type 2 diabetes.
So it can happen and you can take control and make things better
This was my ride today. Burn was mainly fat. I have lost over 125 lbs of body fat.
I have made this work at 50-100 carbs a day. Not super low. But if you get your carbs thru fibrous veggies it takes some eating.
Good luck! And of course you know you can't eat more calories than you need.
High or low carb, your CICO equation holds true.
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I am 69 and on 40% carb, 30% protein, 30% fat. Is this a low carb or high carb program. Help please. I am confused with the back and forth. I just want to stay healthy. Age is a number, energy etc is most important. Thank you.
If you're Kobe Bryant and the Lakers, that's "low carb". When they're talking about their dieticians moving them to "low carb", they're talking about reducing carbs to 30-40% of calories.
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You should choose a way of eating that is something you can sustain for the rest of your life.
Everyone has a different idea of what low-carb means. I'm diabetic, and I keep to under 25% of carbs each day making up my calorie goal. I allot carbs by meal to help keep my blood sugar stable over a day. I must do this. To compensate, I eat extra fat.0 -
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I don't know what app you're using but every time you post pics of your bike rides the calorie burn seems way inflated. That's a pound of fat in 2 hours.professionalHobbyist wrote: »OP
Endurance athletes using slow release carbs and fat are not uncommon
I did this ride fasted and drank two 100 calorie carb based thermogenic drinks during the ride.
It is the function of your mitochondria to source fat as fuel when carbs run out.
My internal medicine specialist got me on moderate to low carb and exercise to reverse my type 2 diabetes.
So it can happen and you can take control and make things better
This was my ride today. Burn was mainly fat. I have lost over 125 lbs of body fat.
I have made this work at 50-100 carbs a day. Not super low. But if you get your carbs thru fibrous veggies it takes some eating.
Good luck! And of course you know you can't eat more calories than you need.
High or low carb, your CICO equation holds true.
It's MapMyRide and it's very inflated. I use it for the maps and such but never trust the calorie count.0 -
Map My Ridestevencloser wrote: »
I don't know what app you're using but every time you post pics of your bike rides the calorie burn seems way inflated. That's a pound of fat in 2 hours.professionalHobbyist wrote: »OP
Endurance athletes using slow release carbs and fat are not uncommon
I did this ride fasted and drank two 100 calorie carb based thermogenic drinks during the ride.
It is the function of your mitochondria to source fat as fuel when carbs run out.
My internal medicine specialist got me on moderate to low carb and exercise to reverse my type 2 diabetes.
So it can happen and you can take control and make things better
This was my ride today. Burn was mainly fat. I have lost over 125 lbs of body fat.
I have made this work at 50-100 carbs a day. Not super low. But if you get your carbs thru fibrous veggies it takes some eating.
Good luck! And of course you know you can't eat more calories than you need.
High or low carb, your CICO equation holds true.
I use their GPS for speed and distance since it is an online challenge. You can't enter your own numbers in the contest.
That ride was almost 20 mph average
That is burning lots of calories. My ride today was easy at 16 mph and was much lower calorie burn.
Do you know of a more accurate site to punch in Cateye ride data for estimated calorie burn?
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professionalHobbyist wrote: »Do you know of a more accurate site to punch in Cateye ride data for estimated calorie burn?
I use bikecalculator.com
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Point being, I don't think that a diet that includes more high quality protein is responsible for the mortality rate in the US compared to other areas of the world.
While a diet that consists of 70% carbohydrate may be survivable, I would not depict it as healthy.
If I take protein out of your diet and only fed you Fat & Carbohydrate ,,,, you would die because I just cut off your source of essential amino acids.
If I take out Fat and only feed you Protein & Carbohydrates ..... again, you would die because I just cutoff your source of essential fats.
The trend over the last 50-60 years has been to avoid fats and replace them with carbohydrates and the increase in the incidence of obesity is paralleling that curve. Correlation or Causation?
That average calories have increase by 500 calories... its not so much the macronutrient breakout but the calories in and of itself. Any can of moderation/restriction is beneficial. There are a variety of diets and all of them have their benefits.
The bigger factors are body weight/body composition, genetics and activity level. Some do well with lower carbs... while some do better with high carbs. And if you are getting a variety of nutrient dense foods to maximize intake of vitamins, minerals and other nutrients you will be fine.
One of the biggest issues is we just tend to look at details without looking at the whole picture.
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professionalHobbyist wrote: »Do you know of a more accurate site to punch in Cateye ride data for estimated calorie burn?
I use bikecalculator.com
It gave me 2904 calories
A little less than the 20% error margin I guess at
Thanks man!
I appreciate the info
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