I just read people don't need to stress abut macros?

BJG7_UK

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BJG7_UK wrote: »

AmandaHugginkiss wrote: »

This response is for people who might read your post and think you're doing something other than being argumentative and bored. Because people do still read the forums to learn.

Metabolic damage: One needs to be on a VLCD for a prolonged period to cause metabolic damage. That doesn't just happen overnight. It happens primarily to people who do extreme cut-bulk cycles, to people who overtrain while eating too few calories, and to people with a disordered approach to eating (whether that be the below 1200 calorie crowd, anorexics, or morbidly obese people who are made to believe that they have to eat celery all day to lose weight), and yo-yo dieters.

Macros: They matter for body composition, muscle retention, hormone balance, overall energy, and general health. People have different needs, and macros are not something that are going to be the same for everyone. It isn't a one-size-fits-all thing. Distance runners don't generally want a lot of upper body mass (or even a lot of quad mass) to carry around, so packing in the protein to build mass isn't a high priority, but sufficient carbohydrates to fuel endurance runs would be. Lifters are the opposite, and protein becomes more of a priority. People who want to do it all eventually figure out a balance that works for them. Most people fit somewhere in between the extremes, and there's a lot of leeway for those of us involved in recreational fitness.

Your Metabolic damage description was basically how I started dieting.

So you admit that you did it in an unhealthy fashion?

No, thats not what I was saying. What I meant was when I started, I went down the route of eating fruit, veg and lean proteins but not tracking. I hit a wall and fat loss basically stopped, and someone said to me work out your calories, I was having around 1400/1500cals a day. Which is extremely low for a 230 plus pound man.

I worked my calories back up and got my calories up to 2900 and slowly progressively started to lose fat. As my body weight dropped I then started chipping away at my macros to lower my intake. I don't see anything unhealthy with that.

Kalikel

I stopped stressing over macros. I cannot eat to numbers.

I am half-heartedly increasing protein, so I look at it on a weekly basis.

I'm looking at micros weekly, too, trying to improve my diet.

SergeantSausage

BJG7_UK wrote: »

This interests me as I saw it on another post..

And it made me think, if we shouldn't have to worry about macros then why do we use MFP?

My mind is blown :-/

uhhh... calories?

I've never watched or stressed a macro in my life ... and I'm down 54 total pounds.

cwolfman13

A lot of people just count calories. I was generally aware of my macros and used them as a guide to balance out my diet...but I really didn't give a *kitten* about being bang on...I think people worry about a lot of nonsense for no good reason.

I don't track anymore, so I have no idea what my macro ratios are...nor do I really give a feck. I'm fit, strong, and healthy and eat a well balanced and highly nutritious diet..so meh.

elkhunter7x6

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DeguelloTex wrote: »

Some people count calories without focusing on macros.

Yup. I log my food to keep track of the calories. I glance at the other stuff now and then, but don't worry about any of that stuff. Just the calories.

This ^^

LiftAllThePizzas

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yopeeps025 wrote: »

BJG7_UK wrote: »

AmandaHugginkiss wrote: »

This response is for people who might read your post and think you're doing something other than being argumentative and bored. Because people do still read the forums to learn.

Metabolic damage: One needs to be on a VLCD for a prolonged period to cause metabolic damage. That doesn't just happen overnight. It happens primarily to people who do extreme cut-bulk cycles, to people who overtrain while eating too few calories, and to people with a disordered approach to eating (whether that be the below 1200 calorie crowd, anorexics, or morbidly obese people who are made to believe that they have to eat celery all day to lose weight), and yo-yo dieters.

Macros: They matter for body composition, muscle retention, hormone balance, overall energy, and general health. People have different needs, and macros are not something that are going to be the same for everyone. It isn't a one-size-fits-all thing. Distance runners don't generally want a lot of upper body mass (or even a lot of quad mass) to carry around, so packing in the protein to build mass isn't a high priority, but sufficient carbohydrates to fuel endurance runs would be. Lifters are the opposite, and protein becomes more of a priority. People who want to do it all eventually figure out a balance that works for them. Most people fit somewhere in between the extremes, and there's a lot of leeway for those of us involved in recreational fitness.

Your Metabolic damage description was basically how I started dieting.

So you admit that you did it in an unhealthy fashion?

No, thats not what I was saying. What I meant was when I started, I went down the route of eating fruit, veg and lean proteins but not tracking. I hit a wall and fat loss basically stopped, and someone said to me work out your calories, I was having around 1400/1500cals a day. Which is extremely low for a 230 plus pound man.

I worked my calories back up and got my calories up to 2900 and slowly progressively started to lose fat. As my body weight dropped I then started chipping away at my macros to lower my intake. I don't see anything unhealthy with that.

If that actually happened, and you can show it actually happens with your body, you could be collecting a Nobel prize.

BJG7_UK

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BJG7_UK wrote: »

yopeeps025 wrote: »

BJG7_UK wrote: »

AmandaHugginkiss wrote: »

This response is for people who might read your post and think you're doing something other than being argumentative and bored. Because people do still read the forums to learn.

Metabolic damage: One needs to be on a VLCD for a prolonged period to cause metabolic damage. That doesn't just happen overnight. It happens primarily to people who do extreme cut-bulk cycles, to people who overtrain while eating too few calories, and to people with a disordered approach to eating (whether that be the below 1200 calorie crowd, anorexics, or morbidly obese people who are made to believe that they have to eat celery all day to lose weight), and yo-yo dieters.

Macros: They matter for body composition, muscle retention, hormone balance, overall energy, and general health. People have different needs, and macros are not something that are going to be the same for everyone. It isn't a one-size-fits-all thing. Distance runners don't generally want a lot of upper body mass (or even a lot of quad mass) to carry around, so packing in the protein to build mass isn't a high priority, but sufficient carbohydrates to fuel endurance runs would be. Lifters are the opposite, and protein becomes more of a priority. People who want to do it all eventually figure out a balance that works for them. Most people fit somewhere in between the extremes, and there's a lot of leeway for those of us involved in recreational fitness.

Your Metabolic damage description was basically how I started dieting.

So you admit that you did it in an unhealthy fashion?

No, thats not what I was saying. What I meant was when I started, I went down the route of eating fruit, veg and lean proteins but not tracking. I hit a wall and fat loss basically stopped, and someone said to me work out your calories, I was having around 1400/1500cals a day. Which is extremely low for a 230 plus pound man.

I worked my calories back up and got my calories up to 2900 and slowly progressively started to lose fat. As my body weight dropped I then started chipping away at my macros to lower my intake. I don't see anything unhealthy with that.

If that actually happened, and you can show it actually happens with your body, you could be collecting a Nobel prize.

Where can I collect that prize?