I just read people don't need to stress abut macros?

yopeeps025 wrote: »

BJG7_UK wrote: »

AmandaHugginkiss wrote: »

This response is for people who might read your post and think you're doing something other than being argumentative and bored. Because people do still read the forums to learn.

Metabolic damage: One needs to be on a VLCD for a prolonged period to cause metabolic damage. That doesn't just happen overnight. It happens primarily to people who do extreme cut-bulk cycles, to people who overtrain while eating too few calories, and to people with a disordered approach to eating (whether that be the below 1200 calorie crowd, anorexics, or morbidly obese people who are made to believe that they have to eat celery all day to lose weight), and yo-yo dieters.

Macros: They matter for body composition, muscle retention, hormone balance, overall energy, and general health. People have different needs, and macros are not something that are going to be the same for everyone. It isn't a one-size-fits-all thing. Distance runners don't generally want a lot of upper body mass (or even a lot of quad mass) to carry around, so packing in the protein to build mass isn't a high priority, but sufficient carbohydrates to fuel endurance runs would be. Lifters are the opposite, and protein becomes more of a priority. People who want to do it all eventually figure out a balance that works for them. Most people fit somewhere in between the extremes, and there's a lot of leeway for those of us involved in recreational fitness.

Your Metabolic damage description was basically how I started dieting.

So you admit that you did it in an unhealthy fashion?

LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »

BJG7_UK wrote: »

yopeeps025 wrote: »

BJG7_UK wrote: »

AmandaHugginkiss wrote: »

This response is for people who might read your post and think you're doing something other than being argumentative and bored. Because people do still read the forums to learn.

Metabolic damage: One needs to be on a VLCD for a prolonged period to cause metabolic damage. That doesn't just happen overnight. It happens primarily to people who do extreme cut-bulk cycles, to people who overtrain while eating too few calories, and to people with a disordered approach to eating (whether that be the below 1200 calorie crowd, anorexics, or morbidly obese people who are made to believe that they have to eat celery all day to lose weight), and yo-yo dieters.

Macros: They matter for body composition, muscle retention, hormone balance, overall energy, and general health. People have different needs, and macros are not something that are going to be the same for everyone. It isn't a one-size-fits-all thing. Distance runners don't generally want a lot of upper body mass (or even a lot of quad mass) to carry around, so packing in the protein to build mass isn't a high priority, but sufficient carbohydrates to fuel endurance runs would be. Lifters are the opposite, and protein becomes more of a priority. People who want to do it all eventually figure out a balance that works for them. Most people fit somewhere in between the extremes, and there's a lot of leeway for those of us involved in recreational fitness.

Your Metabolic damage description was basically how I started dieting.

So you admit that you did it in an unhealthy fashion?

No, thats not what I was saying. What I meant was when I started, I went down the route of eating fruit, veg and lean proteins but not tracking. I hit a wall and fat loss basically stopped, and someone said to me work out your calories, I was having around 1400/1500cals a day. Which is extremely low for a 230 plus pound man.

I worked my calories back up and got my calories up to 2900 and slowly progressively started to lose fat. As my body weight dropped I then started chipping away at my macros to lower my intake. I don't see anything unhealthy with that.

If that actually happened, and you can show it actually happens with your body, you could be collecting a Nobel prize.