dairy and fruit sugars?
ABChambers8
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I've noticed that I am always well over my sugar target for the day- myfitnesspal counts dairy and fruit sugars as part of this, should I be cutting down on these products? I'm freaking out a little that I will start gaining weight eating this much sugar everyday... some other forums on the internet only say that you should count "added sugar", what's your views on this?
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MFP sugar goals are set very low. I wouldn't worry about being over your sugar goals unless you have a medical condition which requires you to monitor it. You will not gain weight being over your sugar goal as long as you are in a caloric deficit.0
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You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Assuming that you have a normal metabolism, too much sugar is probably less of an issue for weight loss than it is for long-term health and good aging.
An easy switch is to exchange some of your fruits for more vegetables. Eating less processed food also makes it easier to reduce your sugar intake-1 -
I removed the sugar goal and replaced it with fiber
The fiber you GET from fruit is important most of the sugar I get is from fruit. Not a big sweets guy. 0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
A good rule of thumb is to not make blanket statements about a population. Do you know every American?0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
"massive" is subjective, anything in excess is unhealthy, too much is defined by the individual and their overall diet with respect to all macros/micros0 -
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DisneyDude85 wrote: »I removed the sugar goal and replaced it with fiber The fiber you GET from fruit is important most of the sugar I get is from fruit. Not a big sweets guy.
Agreed. I swapped my sugar goal for fiber and track that as well. Makes it easier in the long run.
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DisneyDude85 wrote: »I removed the sugar goal and replaced it with fiber The fiber you GET from fruit is important most of the sugar I get is from fruit. Not a big sweets guy.
And fiber is something that people struggle to get enough of. I have to maintain a high fiber diet per my GI and colorectal surgeon, and sometimes it's NOT easy. I'm not even at the daily minimum MFP sets, much less the level I should be at. I guess I'll be having Cheerios.. heh.0 -
UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Phew, good thing not all of us are Americans then.
Are you not a North American?
People who eat the Standard American Diet (S.A.D.) tend to be those who most vehemently object to following basic sugar limits. If you are not living off of processed junk, it's pretty easy to avoid going over the sugar limit.-2 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Phew, good thing not all of us are Americans then.
Are you not a North American?
People who eat the Standard American Diet (S.A.D.) tend to be those who most vehemently object to following basic sugar limits. If you are not living off of processed junk, it's pretty easy to avoid going over the sugar limit.
MY banana, grapes and strawberries put me over the sugar limit...0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Assuming that you have a normal metabolism, too much sugar is probably less of an issue for weight loss than it is for long-term health and good aging.
An easy switch is to exchange some of your fruits for more vegetables. Eating less processed food also makes it easier to reduce your sugar intake
@azulvioleta6 Which Amercans? North? Central? South? You can't know all of them.
Who are you referring to? Quite a huge blanket statement there. Me ofendes.ABChambers8 wrote: »I've noticed that I am always well over my sugar target for the day- myfitnesspal counts dairy and fruit sugars as part of this, should I be cutting down on these products? I'm freaking out a little that I will start gaining weight eating this much sugar everyday... some other forums on the internet only say that you should count "added sugar", what's your views on this?
OP don't worry about the sugars... as others have stated, you can track something else... after all, for weight loss, what mattters is a calorie deficit. 0 -
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azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Assuming that you have a normal metabolism, too much sugar is probably less of an issue for weight loss than it is for long-term health and good aging.
An easy switch is to exchange some of your fruits for more vegetables. Eating less processed food also makes it easier to reduce your sugar intake
You're conflating "some" sugar with "too much" sugar.
Why?
And taking a stab at Americans to boot. Lovely.
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DisneyDude85 wrote: »I removed the sugar goal and replaced it with fiber The fiber you GET from fruit is important most of the sugar I get is from fruit. Not a big sweets guy.
Same for me. I don't worry about how much sugar is in whole fruit nor do I limit whole fruit. (Sugars from dairy? Easy fix. I don't do dairy anymore at all -- way too lactose intolerant.)0 -
ABChambers8 wrote: »I've noticed that I am always well over my sugar target for the day- myfitnesspal counts dairy and fruit sugars as part of this, should I be cutting down on these products? I'm freaking out a little that I will start gaining weight eating this much sugar everyday... some other forums on the internet only say that you should count "added sugar", what's your views on this?
OP, while MFP's sugar goals are set low, it's up to you to determine what a prudent intake for you is.
Fruit sugar and dairy sugar are fine. Added sugar is what we're recommended to watch and limit. If you're going over, I do have to ask by how much? If it's only a little -- don't sweat it.
Follow the WHO's guidelines on added sugars if you're concerned:
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2015/sugar-guideline/en/
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DisneyDude85 wrote: »I removed the sugar goal and replaced it with fiber The fiber you GET from fruit is important most of the sugar I get is from fruit. Not a big sweets guy.
Agreed. I swapped my sugar goal for fiber and track that as well. Makes it easier in the long run.
How do you do that? remove the sugar?
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I don't pay much attention to the sugars in natural sources, but pay attention to added sugars. I switched to a lower sugar flavored yogurt when the sugar in my old yogurt (Chobani, Fage) contained almost 1/2 of my recommended daily sugar. I don't care if I go over my sugar and most of it is from fruit, but it helps me notice when I go over because of the high added sugar in some of my foods.0
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Cynthiamr2015 wrote: »DisneyDude85 wrote: »I removed the sugar goal and replaced it with fiber The fiber you GET from fruit is important most of the sugar I get is from fruit. Not a big sweets guy.
Agreed. I swapped my sugar goal for fiber and track that as well. Makes it easier in the long run.
How do you do that? remove the sugar?
On the website: go to the food section- and select settings- and then pick and choose your macros.0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Phew, good thing not all of us are Americans then.
Are you not a North American?
People who eat the Standard American Diet (S.A.D.) tend to be those who most vehemently object to following basic sugar limits. If you are not living off of processed junk, it's pretty easy to avoid going over the sugar limit.
Oh noes 62% of my sugar intake today is from my morning snack... of watermelon. Only 22g left for my day, and I think I'll have some Oreo's just for you lady.0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Assuming that you have a normal metabolism, too much sugar is probably less of an issue for weight loss than it is for long-term health and good aging.
An easy switch is to exchange some of your fruits for more vegetables. Eating less processed food also makes it easier to reduce your sugar intake
Excuse me but what exactly do you have against Americans?
OP, I disregard sugar, as I have no medical condition that would require me to track it. Instead, I changed that particular spot to track my fiber.0 -
ABChambers8 wrote: »I've noticed that I am always well over my sugar target for the day- myfitnesspal counts dairy and fruit sugars as part of this, should I be cutting down on these products? I'm freaking out a little that I will start gaining weight eating this much sugar everyday... some other forums on the internet only say that you should count "added sugar", what's your views on this?
Calories are what matter for weight loss.
The sugar goal is a very rough estimate to help you figure out if you are eating too many low nutrient sweets or a non balanced diet. It's probably better to look at macros and micros (to the extent available) and fiber for that. If you were having trouble staying within your calories and always over sugar, that might be something to look at, but on its own it's not significant.
Also, how many grams are we talking about? If you are on very reduced calories (like 1200) it's quite a low limit. I exceeded it (with 52 grams) the other day with no dairy, a few cherries and a pluot, lots of vegetables and some corn.0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Phew, good thing not all of us are Americans then.
Are you not a North American?
People who eat the Standard American Diet (S.A.D.) tend to be those who most vehemently object to following basic sugar limits. If you are not living off of processed junk, it's pretty easy to avoid going over the sugar limit.
No it's not. I very rarely eat processed "junk", and I've gone over the old sugar limit on MFP just from unsweetened dairy and veggie consumption. They raised it since then, but I had a huge whack of cauliflower be the biggest contributor to my sugar intake for that particular day.
Once again, blanket statements...
Also? People "objecting to following basic sugar limits" might just think that adults are capable of being a little more flexible with fitting more than a couple of pieces of fruit in their diet. You can eat very healthfully and go over MFP's sugar goal just from eating a banana, an apple, some yogurt, and plenty of veggies and maybe having some watermelon or sweet potato.
Not everyone low carbs.
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azulvioleta6 wrote: »Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
LOL. 46+ grams of sugar from fruits, dairy, and vegetables, as well as some starches, is not difficult at all to do even with a fruit consumption at or below what is typically recommended.
The problem with the SAD is not excess fruit.
Generalizing about what Americans eat is silly. There's enormous diversity and you don't have enough knowledge about OP's diet to opine that she's eating unhealthy levels of sugar.If you are not living off of processed junk, it's pretty easy to avoid going over the sugar limit.
You have been over the sugar limit for 1200 calories on numerous days.0 -
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This raises an interesting (well, not really) question:
It's generally easy for me to stay under the sugar recommendation, because I'm on 1700 calories, so get a reasonable amount of sugar.
It would be hard to stay under if I were on 1200, especially since then I'm likely to replace some fattier options with more fruit or low fat dairy.
So am I an American or not?
It seems I am more American when I keep my calories lower, and yet Americans are hardly notorious for our low calorie consumption. Oh, what a conundrum!0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »This raises an interesting (well, not really) question:
It's generally easy for me to stay under the sugar recommendation, because I'm on 1700 calories, so get a reasonable amount of sugar.
It would be hard to stay under if I were on 1200, especially since then I'm likely to replace some fattier options with more fruit or low fat dairy.
So am I an American or not?
It seems I am more American when I keep my calories lower, and yet Americans are hardly notorious for our low calorie consumption. Oh, what a conundrum!
I'm American today! Slightly under 1200 calories, but over 45 grams of sugar. Had to go and put 35 calories of chocolate chips in my plain yogurt (which itself was the highest sugar containing item in my diary).
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UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Phew, good thing not all of us are Americans then.
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azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Assuming that you have a normal metabolism, too much sugar is probably less of an issue for weight loss than it is for long-term health and good aging.
An easy switch is to exchange some of your fruits for more vegetables. Eating less processed food also makes it easier to reduce your sugar intake
I had a look through your diary.
I found a day where you consumed around 1200 calories so that it compared to the people who normally have this issue.
Here's the thing. the sugar goal for people who are on 1200 calories is 45 grams.
Today I didn't exercise, and I was over my goal by 3 grams. I had 35 calories worth of chocolate chips, but by and large, my intake of sugar was from fruit, veggies, and unsweetened dairy. 48 grams of sugar.
On your 1200 calorie day, you had two generous servings of fruit and plenty of veggies. In fact, except for eating meat, you and I have similar diets. Your sugar consumption for that day? 69 grams. Most of it from blueberries.
People who are on lower calorie allowances blow through that sugar goal eating dairy and fruit quite easily. I don't think you understand this at all.
Editing to add: I just looked again at that day's entry, and your sugar intake was probably not that high. The two blueberry entries vary and one has a really high sugar number.
The point still stands about how easy it is to come near to the sugar limit for people on 1200 calories, though.
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azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Assuming that you have a normal metabolism, too much sugar is probably less of an issue for weight loss than it is for long-term health and good aging.
An easy switch is to exchange some of your fruits for more vegetables. Eating less processed food also makes it easier to reduce your sugar intakeazulvioleta6 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Phew, good thing not all of us are Americans then.
Are you not a North American?
People who eat the Standard American Diet (S.A.D.) tend to be those who most vehemently object to following basic sugar limits. If you are not living off of processed junk, it's pretty easy to avoid going over the sugar limit.
That is the most ignorant thing to say!!!0
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