dairy and fruit sugars?
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azulvioleta6 wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Phew, good thing not all of us are Americans then.
Are you not a North American?
People who eat the Standard American Diet (S.A.D.) tend to be those who most vehemently object to following basic sugar limits. If you are not living off of processed junk, it's pretty easy to avoid going over the sugar limit.
The majority of my sugar comes from dairy, fruit and veggies, and I have never been able to stay under mfp's sugar goals, not even once. Would you class those as processed junk?
Serious question.
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PeachyCarol wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Assuming that you have a normal metabolism, too much sugar is probably less of an issue for weight loss than it is for long-term health and good aging.
An easy switch is to exchange some of your fruits for more vegetables. Eating less processed food also makes it easier to reduce your sugar intake
I had a look through your diary.
I found a day where you consumed around 1200 calories so that it compared to the people who normally have this issue.
Here's the thing. the sugar goal for people who are on 1200 calories is 45 grams.
Today I didn't exercise, and I was over my goal by 3 grams. I had 35 calories worth of chocolate chips, but by and large, my intake of sugar was from fruit, veggies, and unsweetened dairy. 48 grams of sugar.
On your 1200 calorie day, you had two generous servings of fruit and plenty of veggies. In fact, except for eating meat, you and I have similar diets. Your sugar consumption for that day? 69 grams. Most of it from blueberries.
People who are on lower calorie allowances blow through that sugar goal eating dairy and fruit quite easily. I don't think you understand this at all.
Wait........claims to believe sugar is sugar regardless of source, pokes fun at 'Muricans, claims its easy to stay below sugar limit by avoiding the processed junk in SAD, yet goes over sugar limit with "healthy" foods? Did I put this puzzle together properly?0 -
mantium999 wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Assuming that you have a normal metabolism, too much sugar is probably less of an issue for weight loss than it is for long-term health and good aging.
An easy switch is to exchange some of your fruits for more vegetables. Eating less processed food also makes it easier to reduce your sugar intake
I had a look through your diary.
I found a day where you consumed around 1200 calories so that it compared to the people who normally have this issue.
Here's the thing. the sugar goal for people who are on 1200 calories is 45 grams.
Today I didn't exercise, and I was over my goal by 3 grams. I had 35 calories worth of chocolate chips, but by and large, my intake of sugar was from fruit, veggies, and unsweetened dairy. 48 grams of sugar.
On your 1200 calorie day, you had two generous servings of fruit and plenty of veggies. In fact, except for eating meat, you and I have similar diets. Your sugar consumption for that day? 69 grams. Most of it from blueberries.
People who are on lower calorie allowances blow through that sugar goal eating dairy and fruit quite easily. I don't think you understand this at all.
Wait........claims to believe sugar is sugar regardless of source, pokes fun at 'Muricans, claims its easy to stay below sugar limit by avoiding the processed junk in SAD, yet goes over sugar limit with "healthy" foods? Did I put this puzzle together properly?
Well, it's not her sugar limit, especially with all of her exercise burns from MFP's data base added in.
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PeachyCarol wrote: »mantium999 wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Assuming that you have a normal metabolism, too much sugar is probably less of an issue for weight loss than it is for long-term health and good aging.
An easy switch is to exchange some of your fruits for more vegetables. Eating less processed food also makes it easier to reduce your sugar intake
I had a look through your diary.
I found a day where you consumed around 1200 calories so that it compared to the people who normally have this issue.
Here's the thing. the sugar goal for people who are on 1200 calories is 45 grams.
Today I didn't exercise, and I was over my goal by 3 grams. I had 35 calories worth of chocolate chips, but by and large, my intake of sugar was from fruit, veggies, and unsweetened dairy. 48 grams of sugar.
On your 1200 calorie day, you had two generous servings of fruit and plenty of veggies. In fact, except for eating meat, you and I have similar diets. Your sugar consumption for that day? 69 grams. Most of it from blueberries.
People who are on lower calorie allowances blow through that sugar goal eating dairy and fruit quite easily. I don't think you understand this at all.
Wait........claims to believe sugar is sugar regardless of source, pokes fun at 'Muricans, claims its easy to stay below sugar limit by avoiding the processed junk in SAD, yet goes over sugar limit with "healthy" foods? Did I put this puzzle together properly?
Well, it's not her sugar limit, especially with all of her exercise burns from MFP's data base added in.
Body's a unique calorie incinerating furnace I take it???0 -
I am at exactly "0" left for my 45g of sugar for the day... Actually under, because I haven't eaten my strawberries that I pre-logged this morning. I don't even eat sweets, unless you count G2 Orange Gatorade. But great generalization, stop being an Eliza Dushku.0
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mantium999 wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »mantium999 wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Assuming that you have a normal metabolism, too much sugar is probably less of an issue for weight loss than it is for long-term health and good aging.
An easy switch is to exchange some of your fruits for more vegetables. Eating less processed food also makes it easier to reduce your sugar intake
I had a look through your diary.
I found a day where you consumed around 1200 calories so that it compared to the people who normally have this issue.
Here's the thing. the sugar goal for people who are on 1200 calories is 45 grams.
Today I didn't exercise, and I was over my goal by 3 grams. I had 35 calories worth of chocolate chips, but by and large, my intake of sugar was from fruit, veggies, and unsweetened dairy. 48 grams of sugar.
On your 1200 calorie day, you had two generous servings of fruit and plenty of veggies. In fact, except for eating meat, you and I have similar diets. Your sugar consumption for that day? 69 grams. Most of it from blueberries.
People who are on lower calorie allowances blow through that sugar goal eating dairy and fruit quite easily. I don't think you understand this at all.
Wait........claims to believe sugar is sugar regardless of source, pokes fun at 'Muricans, claims its easy to stay below sugar limit by avoiding the processed junk in SAD, yet goes over sugar limit with "healthy" foods? Did I put this puzzle together properly?
Well, it's not her sugar limit, especially with all of her exercise burns from MFP's data base added in.
Body's a unique calorie incinerating furnace I take it???
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I didn't know you can switch your sugar tracking to fiber tracking :O I just did it, and I'm over by 1 on fiber. IM REGULAR!!!!!!!!!!0
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Kimegatron wrote: »I didn't know you can switch your sugar tracking to fiber tracking :O I just did it, and I'm over by 1 on fiber. IM REGULAR!!!!!!!!!!
yaaaay LOL
I switched to fibre because I got sick of seeing that red number pop up under sugar, pretty much as soon as I entered my breakfast and lunch into my diary
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mantium999 wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »mantium999 wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »You will not find agreement about the topic on this forum.
I am on the "sugar is sugar" side of the fence. Your body doesn't distinguish the difference between added and natural sugars. Just because Americans are used to eating (and don't want to reduce their intake of) massive amounts of sugar...well, that doesn't make it healthy.
Assuming that you have a normal metabolism, too much sugar is probably less of an issue for weight loss than it is for long-term health and good aging.
An easy switch is to exchange some of your fruits for more vegetables. Eating less processed food also makes it easier to reduce your sugar intake
I had a look through your diary.
I found a day where you consumed around 1200 calories so that it compared to the people who normally have this issue.
Here's the thing. the sugar goal for people who are on 1200 calories is 45 grams.
Today I didn't exercise, and I was over my goal by 3 grams. I had 35 calories worth of chocolate chips, but by and large, my intake of sugar was from fruit, veggies, and unsweetened dairy. 48 grams of sugar.
On your 1200 calorie day, you had two generous servings of fruit and plenty of veggies. In fact, except for eating meat, you and I have similar diets. Your sugar consumption for that day? 69 grams. Most of it from blueberries.
People who are on lower calorie allowances blow through that sugar goal eating dairy and fruit quite easily. I don't think you understand this at all.
Wait........claims to believe sugar is sugar regardless of source, pokes fun at 'Muricans, claims its easy to stay below sugar limit by avoiding the processed junk in SAD, yet goes over sugar limit with "healthy" foods? Did I put this puzzle together properly?
Well, it's not her sugar limit, especially with all of her exercise burns from MFP's data base added in.
Body's a unique calorie incinerating furnace I take it???
Well, she doesn't eat them back, so they're just there. However, there was a time in a previous thread where she did shame other posters about how everyone should be able to burn the same as she does.
When you're using inflated burns as a method of comparison (with likely overstated effort since self-reported effort is notoriously overstated) and shaming other people with them? Bad form.
However, back to topic, I'll take this opportunity to point out that the day I used for illustrative purposes in her diary likely had a bad entry for one of her blueberry servings. So she didn't eat 69 grams. Probably more like 53 grams. Still over the goal for a 1200 calorie diet, but she's not on 1200 calories. I was illustrating a point about people who usually ask questions about the sugar limit.
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christinev297 wrote: »
yaaaay LOL
I switched to fibre because I got sick of seeing that red number pop up under sugar, pretty much as soon as I entered my breakfast and lunch into my diary
I am slowly getting the hang of this, but I didn't realize I was doing okay in fiber! How exciting! Lololol!0 -
ABChambers8 wrote: »I've noticed that I am always well over my sugar target for the day- myfitnesspal counts dairy and fruit sugars as part of this, should I be cutting down on these products? I'm freaking out a little that I will start gaining weight eating this much sugar everyday... some other forums on the internet only say that you should count "added sugar", what's your views on this?
If you are not trying to eat low carb, then I wouldn't worry about dairy, fruits and veggies taking you over the sugar limit, unless by doing so you are consuming more calories than you wish. Are you still meeting your other macro goals and your desired caloric intake?
If you are trying to to eat low-sugar or low-carb then you'll need to restrict yourself somewhat.
I think sugar is sugar too. Count it all together. If you have to choose a sugar, go for the ones in produce and dairy - there's more vitamins and nutrients that way (usually).0 -
Kimegatron wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »
yaaaay LOL
I switched to fibre because I got sick of seeing that red number pop up under sugar, pretty much as soon as I entered my breakfast and lunch into my diary
I am slowly getting the hang of this, but I didn't realize I was doing okay in fiber! How exciting! Lololol!
hahaha I'm feeling ya! I aim mighty high for fibre. Admittedly I do get a tad excited and fist pump when I get over 40g.
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It's gotta be those multigrain English Muffins!!!
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I dont' go crazy with sugar, but I also don't pay any attention to the sugar limits on MFP.
Do I go over? Not a clue because I dont' even track it! :DDDDD0 -
Wow. I don't eat any (except a rare occasional taste) processed sugar or added sugar. I mean seriously who is going to pass up a bite of birthday cake! lol Anyway I often go over my sugar due to fruit and veggies which have it naturally.
If it's naturally found in food I don't worrying too much about it....but I also don't indulge in it either. For me it's a health issue...my blood sugar is high but not diabetic.
Oh and I am American....and don't eat processed food either. 0 -
There's definitely a lot of controversy about this topic, as is clear by the discussion on your post!
I believe that processed sugars should be avoided, but that sugars from fruit and dairy don't do much harm. Yes the body recognizes sugar as sugar but as long as your day isn't exclusively fruit I see no harm in naturally sweet foods.0
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