Lower belly pooch
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http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1161603/so-you-want-a-nice-stomach#latest
As I said earlier, "tone" is a combination of low body fat and adequate lean mass. A progressive lifting program like some of the ones mentioned before that include compound lifts are going to help your abs by forcing you to engage your core. Start with a program and consider adding additional abdominal work after a couple of months. Things like reverse crunches and hanging leg raise can strengthen your lower abs, but will make a bigger impact if you are also building a stable core through other means (such as compound lifts like bench press, deadlift, squats and overhead press).
^ listen to this OP ….0 -
The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.
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TheVirgoddess wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »TheVirgoddess wrote: »
With the back issues, I think yoga would help for sure. If you have Hulu, there is a series called Everyday Yoga. I've done the beginner episode (episode 2) and really like (which is saying a lot because I really don't like yoga very much).
I love doing yoga, but I find I'm either not strong enough or flexible enough for a lot of things... both of which I need to work on!
You'll get there, though. I started barely being able to touch my toes. A few months later, I was doing this:
A year later, I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to post photos of what I can do now
lol, I've been working on getting my splits and some back flexibilty, hopefully someday I'll get there!0 -
TheVirgoddess wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »TheVirgoddess wrote: »
With the back issues, I think yoga would help for sure. If you have Hulu, there is a series called Everyday Yoga. I've done the beginner episode (episode 2) and really like (which is saying a lot because I really don't like yoga very much).
I love doing yoga, but I find I'm either not strong enough or flexible enough for a lot of things... both of which I need to work on!
You'll get there, though. I started barely being able to touch my toes. A few months later, I was doing this:
A year later, I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to post photos of what I can do now
pics or it is not true ….
you know, for science….0 -
MamaBirdBoss wrote: »OP, sorry for the crap you're getting.
As people age or have babies, their pelvic floor and abdominal muscles often lose strength. You can have NO FAT AT ALL and still have your belly distended at the bottom. This happens due to general weakness or diastasis recti. Also, you may pee when you sneeze or cough or laugh. You often have back pain, too, in the lower back, or sciatica if your hips are slipping (sacroiliac joint--THIS SUUUUUCKS).
A bit about the pelvic floor:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelvic_floor
Primer on pelvic floor disorders:
http://www.uchospitals.edu/specialties/pelvic/faq/pelvic-floor-disorders.html
It also make certain kinds of female orgasms less likely, can cause prolapse of organs, and can even cause vaginal atrophy, in extreme cases.
A bit about diastasis recti:
http://www.webmd.com/baby/guide/abdominal-separation-diastasis-recti
IF YOU HAVE true diastatsis recti, you need to avoid ALL movements that strain the rectus abdominis until it's repaired. What a lot of people do is try to strengthen the rectus muscles by doing more sit ups/crunches/etc. Those are the wrong muscles. You want to strengthen your TRANSVERSE abs.
If you merely have a weak transverse abdominis, you can continue to work the abdominis recti, but realize that it won't fix the pooch.
If you do Pilates CORRECTLY (and avoid the rectus exercises if you need to), it's the hardest workout I've found for continually challenging your transverse abs. During Pilates, you're supposed to be drawing your belly button toward your spine the whole time.
You can also do stomach vacuums. Research diastasis recti fitness programs specifically if you need more guidance--there are several commercial programs out there.
A weak pelvic girdle (including the floor muscles but also muscles in the hips and so-called "core") can cause sacroilial instability, also, by increasing the movement of the joint when shear pressures are applied unevenly. I am CRAZY about Pilates for this!!!! Specifically search "pilates for IS instability," and you'll see a lot of results with specific routines. No more sciatica!!!!!!!
About IS instability:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacroiliac_joint_dysfunction
Complex compound lifts CAN help a lot with the strength of the whole pelvic girdle (if you can work your rectus). like squats (with weight) and deadlifts. They also help strengthen a lot of the other pelvic floor muscles if you do them right. However, a lot of people do then wrong and actually put STRESS on their pelvic floor, particularly. This can increase pelvic floor problems. During ANY lift, do not in any circumstances allow your stomach to bulge out, and don't feel like you might fart. Those are signs that you're not using your transverse abs or aren't using your pelvic floor muscles in sync with your other muscles (you're pushing down on the pelvic floor but not back against it--hence a feeling like you might fart).
I used to be fairly slim after kiddo number two. I had a 26" waist. But when I lay sideways, my guts sort of sloshed to the side, too. My rectus muscles were separated, and my transverse wasn't strong enough to provide the support it's supposed to. Working my transverse abdominis means that I'm a LOT fatter right now, but everything stays in place! Also, it's strong enough that I can finally lift weights again--before I was educated about how to reverse diastasis recti, I thought I would NEVER be able to lift again (because most movements increase separation).
Best of luck and TONS of love and support!
What the....0 -
What I really need is a personal trainer. I'm absolutely terrified of doing things with bad form and hurting myself (I tried doing insanity last summer and had to stop after the 3rd session because I tweaked my back so bad I couldn't walk for 2 days.)0
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PikaKnight wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »OP, if you want, you can still list the exercises the physical therapist gave you and we can find the bodyweight alternatives so you can try those out.
I don't know the names of any of them... which also makes it really hard to find pictures, I can try to describe though...
one of them I bend over and put one hand on a chair and dangle one arm with a dumbell and pull up to my chest.
Next is similar except I push my arm forward instead of up, and another pushing back instead.
The only other one I can think of off the top of my head is tying bands to a pull up bar and holding them at about eye-height and then pulling down to my hips while keeping my arms straight.
Both of those are mostly upper back (which I would love to work on more as well anyway).
The first one sounds like a one arm dumbbell row. I'm not sure about the second version of that. The third sounds like tricep kickbacks.
The band one sounds like the band version of tricep pushdowns.
Do you want to look those up and see if that's right so far?
yes! Those all look like what I did
Do you have access to a pull up bar? If not...do you have a sturdy kitchen table? The reason I'm asking is you could try to do modified inverted rows in place of DB one arm Rows. Another alternative is to take an empty milk jug (gallon, half gallon, etc) , fill it up with water and give that a go.
You could also invest in TRX Suspension Training cables down the road (if you don't want to get weights right now), body bands, or even Sandbags with handles.
For tricep work, bench dips (that can be done using a chair or windowsill) can substitute for the tricep kickbacks and pushdowns you were doing.
You can also consider looking into You Are Your Own Gym. it contains a lot of bodyweight programs which you can try out until your back feels a little strong or/and you get access to equipment.0 -
The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.
If she's having severe back issues right now, I wouldn't suggest crunches at all right now.0 -
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PikaKnight wrote: »The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.
If she's having severe back issues right now, I wouldn't suggest crunches at all right now.
Some of the back issues will get better when she gets better core stabilization. Crunches are a bad idea, but non-weighted or light compound lifts are going to help.0 -
PikaKnight wrote: »The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.
If she's having severe back issues right now, I wouldn't suggest crunches at all right now.
Beat me to it. I have very bad back problems and crunches are a no-go for me. (my physical therapist and my back doc both say so).0 -
What I really need is a personal trainer. I'm absolutely terrified of doing things with bad form and hurting myself (I tried doing insanity last summer and had to stop after the 3rd session because I tweaked my back so bad I couldn't walk for 2 days.)
Well, those programs tend to push fast so that form is hard to really keep an eye on and are more cardio based. Going with a program more focused on resistance/strength allows you the opportunity to take it slower and really focus on form.0 -
PikaKnight wrote: »The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.
If she's having severe back issues right now, I wouldn't suggest crunches at all right now.
Some of the back issues will get better when she gets better core stabilization. Crunches are a bad idea, but non-weighted or light compound lifts are going to help.
^Agreed.0 -
MamaBirdBoss wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »OP, sorry for the crap you're getting.
As people age or have babies, their pelvic floor and abdominal muscles often lose strength. You can have NO FAT AT ALL and still have your belly distended at the bottom. This happens due to general weakness or diastasis recti. Also, you may pee when you sneeze or cough or laugh. You often have back pain, too, in the lower back, or sciatica if your hips are slipping (sacroiliac joint--THIS SUUUUUCKS).
A bit about the pelvic floor:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelvic_floor
Primer on pelvic floor disorders:
http://www.uchospitals.edu/specialties/pelvic/faq/pelvic-floor-disorders.html
It also make certain kinds of female orgasms less likely, can cause prolapse of organs, and can even cause vaginal atrophy, in extreme cases.
A bit about diastasis recti:
http://www.webmd.com/baby/guide/abdominal-separation-diastasis-recti
IF YOU HAVE true diastatsis recti, you need to avoid ALL movements that strain the rectus abdominis until it's repaired. What a lot of people do is try to strengthen the rectus muscles by doing more sit ups/crunches/etc. Those are the wrong muscles. You want to strengthen your TRANSVERSE abs.
If you merely have a weak transverse abdominis, you can continue to work the abdominis recti, but realize that it won't fix the pooch.
If you do Pilates CORRECTLY (and avoid the rectus exercises if you need to), it's the hardest workout I've found for continually challenging your transverse abs. During Pilates, you're supposed to be drawing your belly button toward your spine the whole time.
You can also do stomach vacuums. Research diastasis recti fitness programs specifically if you need more guidance--there are several commercial programs out there.
A weak pelvic girdle (including the floor muscles but also muscles in the hips and so-called "core") can cause sacroilial instability, also, by increasing the movement of the joint when shear pressures are applied unevenly. I am CRAZY about Pilates for this!!!! Specifically search "pilates for IS instability," and you'll see a lot of results with specific routines. No more sciatica!!!!!!!
About IS instability:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacroiliac_joint_dysfunction
Complex compound lifts CAN help a lot with the strength of the whole pelvic girdle (if you can work your rectus). like squats (with weight) and deadlifts. They also help strengthen a lot of the other pelvic floor muscles if you do them right. However, a lot of people do then wrong and actually put STRESS on their pelvic floor, particularly. This can increase pelvic floor problems. During ANY lift, do not in any circumstances allow your stomach to bulge out, and don't feel like you might fart. Those are signs that you're not using your transverse abs or aren't using your pelvic floor muscles in sync with your other muscles (you're pushing down on the pelvic floor but not back against it--hence a feeling like you might fart).
I used to be fairly slim after kiddo number two. I had a 26" waist. But when I lay sideways, my guts sort of sloshed to the side, too. My rectus muscles were separated, and my transverse wasn't strong enough to provide the support it's supposed to. Working my transverse abdominis means that I'm a LOT fatter right now, but everything stays in place! Also, it's strong enough that I can finally lift weights again--before I was educated about how to reverse diastasis recti, I thought I would NEVER be able to lift again (because most movements increase separation).
Best of luck and TONS of love and support!
ummm... I'm turning 21 next month... no where near old, never had kids, only been sexually active for barely a year... so... I'm gonna say that's not my issue. Thanks, though!
If you've got a weak core, it IS still your problem. If you have hypermobility, it can cause the pelvic girdle pain. Being very weak and sedentary can, too. If you're 21 and have back pain, something is really, really wrong, wouldn't you say?
Since you've seen a PT, if he told you your problem is your "core muscles" that most likely means you have sacroilial joint diysfunction. It's also very common among dancers and anyone who's hypermobile:
http://danceproject.ca/the-si-joint-whisperer-tells-all/#.VacWQflVhBc
Having sex doesn't weaken the pelvic floor muscles. Having sex WELL strengthens them. Ahem.
You are not a physician. Stop trying to diagnose her ffs.0 -
MamaBirdBoss wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »OP, sorry for the crap you're getting.
As people age or have babies, their pelvic floor and abdominal muscles often lose strength. You can have NO FAT AT ALL and still have your belly distended at the bottom. This happens due to general weakness or diastasis recti. Also, you may pee when you sneeze or cough or laugh. You often have back pain, too, in the lower back, or sciatica if your hips are slipping (sacroiliac joint--THIS SUUUUUCKS).
A bit about the pelvic floor:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelvic_floor
Primer on pelvic floor disorders:
http://www.uchospitals.edu/specialties/pelvic/faq/pelvic-floor-disorders.html
It also make certain kinds of female orgasms less likely, can cause prolapse of organs, and can even cause vaginal atrophy, in extreme cases.
A bit about diastasis recti:
http://www.webmd.com/baby/guide/abdominal-separation-diastasis-recti
IF YOU HAVE true diastatsis recti, you need to avoid ALL movements that strain the rectus abdominis until it's repaired. What a lot of people do is try to strengthen the rectus muscles by doing more sit ups/crunches/etc. Those are the wrong muscles. You want to strengthen your TRANSVERSE abs.
If you merely have a weak transverse abdominis, you can continue to work the abdominis recti, but realize that it won't fix the pooch.
If you do Pilates CORRECTLY (and avoid the rectus exercises if you need to), it's the hardest workout I've found for continually challenging your transverse abs. During Pilates, you're supposed to be drawing your belly button toward your spine the whole time.
You can also do stomach vacuums. Research diastasis recti fitness programs specifically if you need more guidance--there are several commercial programs out there.
A weak pelvic girdle (including the floor muscles but also muscles in the hips and so-called "core") can cause sacroilial instability, also, by increasing the movement of the joint when shear pressures are applied unevenly. I am CRAZY about Pilates for this!!!! Specifically search "pilates for IS instability," and you'll see a lot of results with specific routines. No more sciatica!!!!!!!
About IS instability:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacroiliac_joint_dysfunction
Complex compound lifts CAN help a lot with the strength of the whole pelvic girdle (if you can work your rectus). like squats (with weight) and deadlifts. They also help strengthen a lot of the other pelvic floor muscles if you do them right. However, a lot of people do then wrong and actually put STRESS on their pelvic floor, particularly. This can increase pelvic floor problems. During ANY lift, do not in any circumstances allow your stomach to bulge out, and don't feel like you might fart. Those are signs that you're not using your transverse abs or aren't using your pelvic floor muscles in sync with your other muscles (you're pushing down on the pelvic floor but not back against it--hence a feeling like you might fart).
I used to be fairly slim after kiddo number two. I had a 26" waist. But when I lay sideways, my guts sort of sloshed to the side, too. My rectus muscles were separated, and my transverse wasn't strong enough to provide the support it's supposed to. Working my transverse abdominis means that I'm a LOT fatter right now, but everything stays in place! Also, it's strong enough that I can finally lift weights again--before I was educated about how to reverse diastasis recti, I thought I would NEVER be able to lift again (because most movements increase separation).
Best of luck and TONS of love and support!
ummm... I'm turning 21 next month... no where near old, never had kids, only been sexually active for barely a year... so... I'm gonna say that's not my issue. Thanks, though!
If you've got a weak core, it IS still your problem. If you have hypermobility, it can cause the pelvic girdle pain. Being very weak and sedentary can, too. If you're 21 and have back pain, something is really, really wrong, wouldn't you say?
Since you've seen a PT, if he told you your problem is your "core muscles" that most likely means you have sacroilial joint diysfunction. It's also very common among dancers and anyone who's hypermobile:
http://danceproject.ca/the-si-joint-whisperer-tells-all/#.VacWQflVhBc
Having sex doesn't weaken the pelvic floor muscles. Having sex WELL strengthens them. Ahem.
my problem isn't my core... core strength is just something they said would help support.
If anyone is actually interested my issue is that I have two vertebrae that are twisted.
And as far as strengthening my pelvic floor, I guess I'll let my boyfriend take care of that if you're right :P0 -
MamaBirdBoss wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »OP, sorry for the crap you're getting.
As people age or have babies, their pelvic floor and abdominal muscles often lose strength. You can have NO FAT AT ALL and still have your belly distended at the bottom. This happens due to general weakness or diastasis recti. Also, you may pee when you sneeze or cough or laugh. You often have back pain, too, in the lower back, or sciatica if your hips are slipping (sacroiliac joint--THIS SUUUUUCKS).
A bit about the pelvic floor:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelvic_floor
Primer on pelvic floor disorders:
http://www.uchospitals.edu/specialties/pelvic/faq/pelvic-floor-disorders.html
It also make certain kinds of female orgasms less likely, can cause prolapse of organs, and can even cause vaginal atrophy, in extreme cases.
A bit about diastasis recti:
http://www.webmd.com/baby/guide/abdominal-separation-diastasis-recti
IF YOU HAVE true diastatsis recti, you need to avoid ALL movements that strain the rectus abdominis until it's repaired. What a lot of people do is try to strengthen the rectus muscles by doing more sit ups/crunches/etc. Those are the wrong muscles. You want to strengthen your TRANSVERSE abs.
If you merely have a weak transverse abdominis, you can continue to work the abdominis recti, but realize that it won't fix the pooch.
If you do Pilates CORRECTLY (and avoid the rectus exercises if you need to), it's the hardest workout I've found for continually challenging your transverse abs. During Pilates, you're supposed to be drawing your belly button toward your spine the whole time.
You can also do stomach vacuums. Research diastasis recti fitness programs specifically if you need more guidance--there are several commercial programs out there.
A weak pelvic girdle (including the floor muscles but also muscles in the hips and so-called "core") can cause sacroilial instability, also, by increasing the movement of the joint when shear pressures are applied unevenly. I am CRAZY about Pilates for this!!!! Specifically search "pilates for IS instability," and you'll see a lot of results with specific routines. No more sciatica!!!!!!!
About IS instability:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacroiliac_joint_dysfunction
Complex compound lifts CAN help a lot with the strength of the whole pelvic girdle (if you can work your rectus). like squats (with weight) and deadlifts. They also help strengthen a lot of the other pelvic floor muscles if you do them right. However, a lot of people do then wrong and actually put STRESS on their pelvic floor, particularly. This can increase pelvic floor problems. During ANY lift, do not in any circumstances allow your stomach to bulge out, and don't feel like you might fart. Those are signs that you're not using your transverse abs or aren't using your pelvic floor muscles in sync with your other muscles (you're pushing down on the pelvic floor but not back against it--hence a feeling like you might fart).
I used to be fairly slim after kiddo number two. I had a 26" waist. But when I lay sideways, my guts sort of sloshed to the side, too. My rectus muscles were separated, and my transverse wasn't strong enough to provide the support it's supposed to. Working my transverse abdominis means that I'm a LOT fatter right now, but everything stays in place! Also, it's strong enough that I can finally lift weights again--before I was educated about how to reverse diastasis recti, I thought I would NEVER be able to lift again (because most movements increase separation).
Best of luck and TONS of love and support!
ummm... I'm turning 21 next month... no where near old, never had kids, only been sexually active for barely a year... so... I'm gonna say that's not my issue. Thanks, though!
If you've got a weak core, it IS still your problem. If you have hypermobility, it can cause the pelvic girdle pain. Being very weak and sedentary can, too. If you're 21 and have back pain, something is really, really wrong, wouldn't you say?
Since you've seen a PT, if he told you your problem is your "core muscles" that most likely means you have sacroilial joint diysfunction. It's also very common among dancers and anyone who's hypermobile:
http://danceproject.ca/the-si-joint-whisperer-tells-all/#.VacWQflVhBc
Having sex doesn't weaken the pelvic floor muscles. Having sex WELL strengthens them. Ahem.
Free diagnoses now huh? I'd ask about my shoulder issues, but don't want to derail the thread, you know.0 -
What I really need is a personal trainer. I'm absolutely terrified of doing things with bad form and hurting myself (I tried doing insanity last summer and had to stop after the 3rd session because I tweaked my back so bad I couldn't walk for 2 days.)
maybe look into strong lifts, starting strength, or all pro beginner routine? < those are all pretty straightforward0 -
flamingblades wrote: »If you gave birth to kids, good luck honey...
What's your point? I gave birth to kids, too.
I'm not getting into a debate on this issue, cause I will probably lose. I am referring to the fact that some women have a tough time tightening their abdomen after giving birth...I didn't say all women. It was just a comment.0 -
MamaBirdBoss wrote: »MamaBirdBoss wrote: »OP, sorry for the crap you're getting.
As people age or have babies, their pelvic floor and abdominal muscles often lose strength. You can have NO FAT AT ALL and still have your belly distended at the bottom. This happens due to general weakness or diastasis recti. Also, you may pee when you sneeze or cough or laugh. You often have back pain, too, in the lower back, or sciatica if your hips are slipping (sacroiliac joint--THIS SUUUUUCKS).
A bit about the pelvic floor:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelvic_floor
Primer on pelvic floor disorders:
http://www.uchospitals.edu/specialties/pelvic/faq/pelvic-floor-disorders.html
It also make certain kinds of female orgasms less likely, can cause prolapse of organs, and can even cause vaginal atrophy, in extreme cases.
A bit about diastasis recti:
http://www.webmd.com/baby/guide/abdominal-separation-diastasis-recti
IF YOU HAVE true diastatsis recti, you need to avoid ALL movements that strain the rectus abdominis until it's repaired. What a lot of people do is try to strengthen the rectus muscles by doing more sit ups/crunches/etc. Those are the wrong muscles. You want to strengthen your TRANSVERSE abs.
If you merely have a weak transverse abdominis, you can continue to work the abdominis recti, but realize that it won't fix the pooch.
If you do Pilates CORRECTLY (and avoid the rectus exercises if you need to), it's the hardest workout I've found for continually challenging your transverse abs. During Pilates, you're supposed to be drawing your belly button toward your spine the whole time.
You can also do stomach vacuums. Research diastasis recti fitness programs specifically if you need more guidance--there are several commercial programs out there.
A weak pelvic girdle (including the floor muscles but also muscles in the hips and so-called "core") can cause sacroilial instability, also, by increasing the movement of the joint when shear pressures are applied unevenly. I am CRAZY about Pilates for this!!!! Specifically search "pilates for IS instability," and you'll see a lot of results with specific routines. No more sciatica!!!!!!!
About IS instability:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacroiliac_joint_dysfunction
Complex compound lifts CAN help a lot with the strength of the whole pelvic girdle (if you can work your rectus). like squats (with weight) and deadlifts. They also help strengthen a lot of the other pelvic floor muscles if you do them right. However, a lot of people do then wrong and actually put STRESS on their pelvic floor, particularly. This can increase pelvic floor problems. During ANY lift, do not in any circumstances allow your stomach to bulge out, and don't feel like you might fart. Those are signs that you're not using your transverse abs or aren't using your pelvic floor muscles in sync with your other muscles (you're pushing down on the pelvic floor but not back against it--hence a feeling like you might fart).
I used to be fairly slim after kiddo number two. I had a 26" waist. But when I lay sideways, my guts sort of sloshed to the side, too. My rectus muscles were separated, and my transverse wasn't strong enough to provide the support it's supposed to. Working my transverse abdominis means that I'm a LOT fatter right now, but everything stays in place! Also, it's strong enough that I can finally lift weights again--before I was educated about how to reverse diastasis recti, I thought I would NEVER be able to lift again (because most movements increase separation).
Best of luck and TONS of love and support!
ummm... I'm turning 21 next month... no where near old, never had kids, only been sexually active for barely a year... so... I'm gonna say that's not my issue. Thanks, though!
If you've got a weak core, it IS still your problem. If you have hypermobility, it can cause the pelvic girdle pain. Being very weak and sedentary can, too. If you're 21 and have back pain, something is really, really wrong, wouldn't you say?
Since you've seen a PT, if he told you your problem is your "core muscles" that most likely means you have sacroilial joint diysfunction. It's also very common among dancers and anyone who's hypermobile:
http://danceproject.ca/the-si-joint-whisperer-tells-all/#.VacWQflVhBc
Having sex doesn't weaken the pelvic floor muscles. Having sex WELL strengthens them. Ahem.
my problem isn't my core... core strength is just something they said would help support.
If anyone is actually interested my issue is that I have two vertebrae that are twisted.
And as far as strengthening my pelvic floor, I guess I'll let my boyfriend take care of that if you're right :P
have you asked a PT what you should be doing to strengthen that area????0 -
PikaKnight wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.
If she's having severe back issues right now, I wouldn't suggest crunches at all right now.
Some of the back issues will get better when she gets better core stabilization. Crunches are a bad idea, but non-weighted or light compound lifts are going to help.
^Agreed.
My suggestion was only directed to her initial query. I didn't see that she had a back issue. Also if done properly the back is not involved in crunches. If it does strain then it's a sign that it's done wrong whether you have a back problem or not.
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PikaKnight wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.
If she's having severe back issues right now, I wouldn't suggest crunches at all right now.
Some of the back issues will get better when she gets better core stabilization. Crunches are a bad idea, but non-weighted or light compound lifts are going to help.
^Agreed.
As you suggested, You Are Your Own Gym would be a good starting point. Starts with body weight, hits all muscles, encourages stabilization, and has progressions.
I think another thing that would possibly help is trigger point therapy, especially considering what her doctor diagnosed her with.0 -
PikaKnight wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.
If she's having severe back issues right now, I wouldn't suggest crunches at all right now.
Some of the back issues will get better when she gets better core stabilization. Crunches are a bad idea, but non-weighted or light compound lifts are going to help.
^Agreed.
My suggestion was only directed to her initial query. I didn't see that she had a back issue. Also if done properly the back is not involved in crunches. If it does strain then it's a sign that it's done wrong whether you have a back problem or not.
Uhm, wut? How is it not involved?
Note the curve of his ... wait for it ... BACK.
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trying to follow all of this is getting more and more complicated... this is the most comments I've ever had on a forum post! I don't want to take the time to comment on every single comment because... wow! But a lot of this is really helpful! Thanks!0
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trying to follow all of this is getting more and more complicated... this is the most comments I've ever had on a forum post! I don't want to take the time to comment on every single comment because... wow! But a lot of this is really helpful! Thanks!
Just avoid the bird brained nonsense and you'll have a good starting point.0 -
Here's a somewhat related question: I get pinched nerves in my hip (which just feels weird and numb) and tailbone (which makes it feel like it's vibrating and I always think my phones going off). Do you think that could be related to my back issues? Should I see someone about it (keep in mind I can't go to the doctor until next year because insurance sucks)?0
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PikaKnight wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.
If she's having severe back issues right now, I wouldn't suggest crunches at all right now.
Some of the back issues will get better when she gets better core stabilization. Crunches are a bad idea, but non-weighted or light compound lifts are going to help.
^Agreed.
As you suggested, You Are Your Own Gym would be a good starting point. Starts with body weight, hits all muscles, encourages stabilization, and has progressions.
I think another thing that would possibly help is trigger point therapy, especially considering what her doctor diagnosed her with.
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trying to follow all of this is getting more and more complicated... this is the most comments I've ever had on a forum post! I don't want to take the time to comment on every single comment because... wow! But a lot of this is really helpful! Thanks!
Just look as usmcmp's and virgogoddess's posts and you're golden.0 -
PrizePopple wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.
If she's having severe back issues right now, I wouldn't suggest crunches at all right now.
Some of the back issues will get better when she gets better core stabilization. Crunches are a bad idea, but non-weighted or light compound lifts are going to help.
^Agreed.
My suggestion was only directed to her initial query. I didn't see that she had a back issue. Also if done properly the back is not involved in crunches. If it does strain then it's a sign that it's done wrong whether you have a back problem or not.
Uhm, wut? How is it not involved?
Note the curve of his ... wait for it ... BACK.
And it's discouraged for patients with bad/severe lower back issues by physicians, physical therapists and even spine specialists because it does involve the back. Not sure where the other person got it doesn't.0 -
PrizePopple wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.
If she's having severe back issues right now, I wouldn't suggest crunches at all right now.
Some of the back issues will get better when she gets better core stabilization. Crunches are a bad idea, but non-weighted or light compound lifts are going to help.
^Agreed.
My suggestion was only directed to her initial query. I didn't see that she had a back issue. Also if done properly the back is not involved in crunches. If it does strain then it's a sign that it's done wrong whether you have a back problem or not.
Uhm, wut? How is it not involved?
Note the curve of his ... wait for it ... BACK.
If you want to misunderstand what I'm saying purposefully it's your choice. But the back is not where the stress is being placed on in this exercise. As seen by your lovely picture. Unless you have never done proper crunches I wouldn't know. But if she has some spinal problems or a sliding disc or whatever major/minor then most exercise would need to be adapted accordingly by a pro.0 -
Here's a somewhat related question: I get pinched nerves in my hip (which just feels weird and numb) and tailbone (which makes it feel like it's vibrating and I always think my phones going off). Do you think that could be related to my back issues? Should I see someone about it (keep in mind I can't go to the doctor until next year because insurance sucks)?
as an FYI ..you can go to a dr and when they bill you can pay it off like 5.00 a month or something like that. They will not send it to collections …
in all honesty, I do not think that this is something that you can get advice on via the internet….
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