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  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,220 Member
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    PikaKnight wrote: »
    usmcmp wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    fidangul wrote: »
    The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.

    If she's having severe back issues right now, I wouldn't suggest crunches at all right now.

    Some of the back issues will get better when she gets better core stabilization. Crunches are a bad idea, but non-weighted or light compound lifts are going to help.

    ^Agreed.

    As you suggested, You Are Your Own Gym would be a good starting point. Starts with body weight, hits all muscles, encourages stabilization, and has progressions.

    I think another thing that would possibly help is trigger point therapy, especially considering what her doctor diagnosed her with.
  • PrizePopple
    PrizePopple Posts: 3,133 Member
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    fidangul wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    usmcmp wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    fidangul wrote: »
    The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.

    If she's having severe back issues right now, I wouldn't suggest crunches at all right now.

    Some of the back issues will get better when she gets better core stabilization. Crunches are a bad idea, but non-weighted or light compound lifts are going to help.

    ^Agreed.

    My suggestion was only directed to her initial query. I didn't see that she had a back issue. Also if done properly the back is not involved in crunches. If it does strain then it's a sign that it's done wrong whether you have a back problem or not.

    Uhm, wut? How is it not involved?

    20130415212558-3-minute-mini-workout-for-30-days-crunches-squats-.jpg

    Note the curve of his ... wait for it ... BACK.
  • KateSimpson17
    KateSimpson17 Posts: 282 Member
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    trying to follow all of this is getting more and more complicated... this is the most comments I've ever had on a forum post! I don't want to take the time to comment on every single comment because... wow! But a lot of this is really helpful! Thanks!
  • mantium999
    mantium999 Posts: 1,490 Member
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    kateyb94 wrote: »
    trying to follow all of this is getting more and more complicated... this is the most comments I've ever had on a forum post! I don't want to take the time to comment on every single comment because... wow! But a lot of this is really helpful! Thanks!

    Just avoid the bird brained nonsense and you'll have a good starting point.
  • KateSimpson17
    KateSimpson17 Posts: 282 Member
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    Here's a somewhat related question: I get pinched nerves in my hip (which just feels weird and numb) and tailbone (which makes it feel like it's vibrating and I always think my phones going off). Do you think that could be related to my back issues? Should I see someone about it (keep in mind I can't go to the doctor until next year because insurance sucks)?
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    usmcmp wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    usmcmp wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    fidangul wrote: »
    The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.

    If she's having severe back issues right now, I wouldn't suggest crunches at all right now.

    Some of the back issues will get better when she gets better core stabilization. Crunches are a bad idea, but non-weighted or light compound lifts are going to help.

    ^Agreed.

    As you suggested, You Are Your Own Gym would be a good starting point. Starts with body weight, hits all muscles, encourages stabilization, and has progressions.

    I think another thing that would possibly help is trigger point therapy, especially considering what her doctor diagnosed her with.

    *nods*
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
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    kateyb94 wrote: »
    trying to follow all of this is getting more and more complicated... this is the most comments I've ever had on a forum post! I don't want to take the time to comment on every single comment because... wow! But a lot of this is really helpful! Thanks!

    Just look as usmcmp's and virgogoddess's posts and you're golden.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    fidangul wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    usmcmp wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    fidangul wrote: »
    The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.

    If she's having severe back issues right now, I wouldn't suggest crunches at all right now.

    Some of the back issues will get better when she gets better core stabilization. Crunches are a bad idea, but non-weighted or light compound lifts are going to help.

    ^Agreed.

    My suggestion was only directed to her initial query. I didn't see that she had a back issue. Also if done properly the back is not involved in crunches. If it does strain then it's a sign that it's done wrong whether you have a back problem or not.

    Uhm, wut? How is it not involved?

    20130415212558-3-minute-mini-workout-for-30-days-crunches-squats-.jpg

    Note the curve of his ... wait for it ... BACK.

    And it's discouraged for patients with bad/severe lower back issues by physicians, physical therapists and even spine specialists because it does involve the back. Not sure where the other person got it doesn't.
  • fidangul
    fidangul Posts: 673 Member
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    fidangul wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    usmcmp wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    fidangul wrote: »
    The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.

    If she's having severe back issues right now, I wouldn't suggest crunches at all right now.

    Some of the back issues will get better when she gets better core stabilization. Crunches are a bad idea, but non-weighted or light compound lifts are going to help.

    ^Agreed.

    My suggestion was only directed to her initial query. I didn't see that she had a back issue. Also if done properly the back is not involved in crunches. If it does strain then it's a sign that it's done wrong whether you have a back problem or not.

    Uhm, wut? How is it not involved?

    20130415212558-3-minute-mini-workout-for-30-days-crunches-squats-.jpg

    Note the curve of his ... wait for it ... BACK.

    If you want to misunderstand what I'm saying purposefully it's your choice. But the back is not where the stress is being placed on in this exercise. As seen by your lovely picture. Unless you have never done proper crunches I wouldn't know. But if she has some spinal problems or a sliding disc or whatever major/minor then most exercise would need to be adapted accordingly by a pro.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    kateyb94 wrote: »
    Here's a somewhat related question: I get pinched nerves in my hip (which just feels weird and numb) and tailbone (which makes it feel like it's vibrating and I always think my phones going off). Do you think that could be related to my back issues? Should I see someone about it (keep in mind I can't go to the doctor until next year because insurance sucks)?

    as an FYI ..you can go to a dr and when they bill you can pay it off like 5.00 a month or something like that. They will not send it to collections …

    in all honesty, I do not think that this is something that you can get advice on via the internet….

  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,988 Member
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    kateyb94 wrote: »
    my problem isn't my core... core strength is just something they said would help support.

    If anyone is actually interested my issue is that I have two vertebrae that are twisted.

    And as far as strengthening my pelvic floor, I guess I'll let my boyfriend take care of that if you're right :P

    I'm a certified yoga teacher and I had lower back issues for years, but because you mention two twisted vertebrae, I'm not comfortable recommending anything except you working on advocating for yourself with your insurance company and health care professionals. I see you sticking up for yourself on this thread and have confidence you can do it IRL as well.

    Also, practice listening to your body and stop when it tells you to.

  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,220 Member
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    kateyb94 wrote: »
    Here's a somewhat related question: I get pinched nerves in my hip (which just feels weird and numb) and tailbone (which makes it feel like it's vibrating and I always think my phones going off). Do you think that could be related to my back issues? Should I see someone about it (keep in mind I can't go to the doctor until next year because insurance sucks)?

    Self myofascial release (foam rolling) can potentially help that. The piriformis roll will get deep in the hip pocket.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    kshama2001 wrote: »
    kateyb94 wrote: »
    my problem isn't my core... core strength is just something they said would help support.

    If anyone is actually interested my issue is that I have two vertebrae that are twisted.

    And as far as strengthening my pelvic floor, I guess I'll let my boyfriend take care of that if you're right :P

    I'm a certified yoga teacher and I had lower back issues for years, but because you mention two twisted vertebrae, I'm not comfortable recommending anything except you working on advocating for yourself with your insurance company and health care professionals. I see you sticking up for yourself on this thread and have confidence you can do it IRL as well.

    Also, practice listening to your body and stop when it tells you to.

    Big emphasis on the bolded.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    kateyb94 wrote: »
    Here's a somewhat related question: I get pinched nerves in my hip (which just feels weird and numb) and tailbone (which makes it feel like it's vibrating and I always think my phones going off). Do you think that could be related to my back issues? Should I see someone about it (keep in mind I can't go to the doctor until next year because insurance sucks)?

    as an FYI ..you can go to a dr and when they bill you can pay it off like 5.00 a month or something like that. They will not send it to collections …

    in all honesty, I do not think that this is something that you can get advice on via the internet….

    I agree. Maybe you should find a way to see someone. I don't have health insurance or the money for a Dr. either so I hear you, but it sounds like something you should have looked at by a professional.

    Anyway, collections has been after me for like 6 years.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
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    fidangul wrote: »
    fidangul wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    usmcmp wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    fidangul wrote: »
    The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.

    If she's having severe back issues right now, I wouldn't suggest crunches at all right now.

    Some of the back issues will get better when she gets better core stabilization. Crunches are a bad idea, but non-weighted or light compound lifts are going to help.

    ^Agreed.

    My suggestion was only directed to her initial query. I didn't see that she had a back issue. Also if done properly the back is not involved in crunches. If it does strain then it's a sign that it's done wrong whether you have a back problem or not.

    Uhm, wut? How is it not involved?

    20130415212558-3-minute-mini-workout-for-30-days-crunches-squats-.jpg

    Note the curve of his ... wait for it ... BACK.

    If you want to misunderstand what I'm saying purposefully it's your choice. But the back is not where the stress is being placed on in this exercise. As seen by your lovely picture. Unless you have never done proper crunches I wouldn't know. But if she has some spinal problems or a sliding disc or whatever major/minor then most exercise would need to be adapted accordingly by a pro.

    You can't 'adapt' crunches for spinal problems. They are not advised for anyone with spinal problems, period. (Says my highly qualified spinal neurosurgeon)
  • fidangul
    fidangul Posts: 673 Member
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    mccindy72 wrote: »
    fidangul wrote: »
    fidangul wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    usmcmp wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    fidangul wrote: »
    The specific exercise that is directed for the pooch you are looking to rid of is a reverse crunch. Also bicycle crunches. If done properly it does work. Obviously you would include this with other exercise circuits/routines. But I'm not getting into that argument. Just wanna give a direct answer to your direct question.

    If she's having severe back issues right now, I wouldn't suggest crunches at all right now.

    Some of the back issues will get better when she gets better core stabilization. Crunches are a bad idea, but non-weighted or light compound lifts are going to help.

    ^Agreed.

    My suggestion was only directed to her initial query. I didn't see that she had a back issue. Also if done properly the back is not involved in crunches. If it does strain then it's a sign that it's done wrong whether you have a back problem or not.

    Uhm, wut? How is it not involved?

    20130415212558-3-minute-mini-workout-for-30-days-crunches-squats-.jpg

    Note the curve of his ... wait for it ... BACK.

    If you want to misunderstand what I'm saying purposefully it's your choice. But the back is not where the stress is being placed on in this exercise. As seen by your lovely picture. Unless you have never done proper crunches I wouldn't know. But if she has some spinal problems or a sliding disc or whatever major/minor then most exercise would need to be adapted accordingly by a pro.

    You can't 'adapt' crunches for spinal problems. They are not advised for anyone with spinal problems, period. (Says my highly qualified spinal neurosurgeon)

    I didn't specify crunches. "Most exercise"
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
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    I would seriously consult a dr or physical therapist and go from there. if you are having all those issues only a medical professional can tell you what is best and worst. good luck
  • KateSimpson17
    KateSimpson17 Posts: 282 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    kateyb94 wrote: »
    Here's a somewhat related question: I get pinched nerves in my hip (which just feels weird and numb) and tailbone (which makes it feel like it's vibrating and I always think my phones going off). Do you think that could be related to my back issues? Should I see someone about it (keep in mind I can't go to the doctor until next year because insurance sucks)?

    as an FYI ..you can go to a dr and when they bill you can pay it off like 5.00 a month or something like that. They will not send it to collections …

    in all honesty, I do not think that this is something that you can get advice on via the internet….

    Good to know! I was just hoping maybe someone had similar issues
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
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    usmcmp wrote: »
    kateyb94 wrote: »
    Here's a somewhat related question: I get pinched nerves in my hip (which just feels weird and numb) and tailbone (which makes it feel like it's vibrating and I always think my phones going off). Do you think that could be related to my back issues? Should I see someone about it (keep in mind I can't go to the doctor until next year because insurance sucks)?

    Self myofascial release (foam rolling) can potentially help that. The piriformis roll will get deep in the hip pocket.

    This is true, but the more you mention about your back problems, the more I think you should hold off on trying any of the exercises you've been told about here. You really should see a doctor first. Many of the symptoms you are describing are indicative of disk problems, and any type of exercise without doctor or PT supervision first could cause you some pretty severe problems. If you have a bulging disk pushing on a nerve, or a degenerating disk leaking fluid on a nerve, either of those things could cause the sensations you're describing. I understand you've got insurance issues, but waiting could cost you more in the long run, not only financially, but also physically.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,988 Member
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    kateyb94 wrote: »
    Here's a somewhat related question: I get pinched nerves in my hip (which just feels weird and numb) and tailbone (which makes it feel like it's vibrating and I always think my phones going off). Do you think that could be related to my back issues? Should I see someone about it (keep in mind I can't go to the doctor until next year because insurance sucks)?

    Have you called your insurance company and said "I think I'm out of office visits - does that mean I have no coverage for a potential pinched nerve?"