Study: Obese men have just a '1 in 210' chance of attaining a healthy body weight

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  • ihad
    ihad Posts: 7,463 Member
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/ihad/view/never-tell-me-the-odds-632567
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqALm_rmM1g
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    ihad wrote: »
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/ihad/view/never-tell-me-the-odds-632567

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  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    That's odd, since it's easier for men to lose, technically. Maybe they care less?

    I don't care if it it's 1 in 1 billion women who lose their weight. I don't care about the rest of them; I'm losing mine.
  • 6502programmer
    6502programmer Posts: 515 Member
    Meh. I quit smoking my first attempt. This is cake compared to nicotine.
  • Merkavar
    Merkavar Posts: 3,082 Member
    Attain or maintain a healthy weight?

  • xX_PhoenixRising_Xx
    xX_PhoenixRising_Xx Posts: 623 Member
    I'm with ihad on this one, and I never realised that he referenced my blog post in his one up there ^.

    A brief glance at that article tells me that my "odds" of success were 1 in 700 or something? I was class 3 obese... good thing I don't believe everything I read, I might never have started...
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  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    I wonder if we counted how many people here succeeded what someone else's odds would be. It'd have be like 1 in 10 quadrillion, lol.
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  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,242 Member
    ihad wrote: »
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/ihad/view/never-tell-me-the-odds-632567

    Woot ihad and xX_PhoenixRising_Xx!!! 2 amazing people I'm privileged to have on my list.

    Do these stats take into account the vast number of people who never try?
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    That's odd, since it's easier for men to lose, technically. Maybe they care less?

    I don't care if it it's 1 in 1 billion women who lose their weight. I don't care about the rest of them; I'm losing mine.

    It's easier for men to lose? Since when?
  • ibamosaserreinas
    ibamosaserreinas Posts: 294 Member
    Those odds really aren't that bad...
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    Odds of being bitten by a shark, roughly 1 in 11.5 million.
    Yet people think it will happen to them enough to be afraid of going in the ocean.
    Thinking I'll be the 1 in 210 doesn't seem so outlandish now, does it?
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
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  • stephanieluvspb
    stephanieluvspb Posts: 997 Member
    6502programmer wrote: »
    Meh. I quit smoking my first attempt. This is cake compared to nicotine.

    Amen to that!!
  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    Reading the article, it looks like the study is only looking at the data from British health records. There's no indication that many of the people included in the study dataset even had been on a deliberate weight loss plan. The statistic is possibly skewed more heavily towards failure if they aren't evaluating for individual plans or commitment levels (self initiated vs. doctor recommended).

    Unfortunately a lot of people will take that one piece of information to justify their own defeatist mindset and give themselves permission to fail
  • jennifer_417
    jennifer_417 Posts: 12,344 Member
    I don't think of it I terms of "odds" or "chances." It's not the lottery where you buy a ticket and hope it's the winning one. When you make the right choices, the weight comes off, every time. When you keep making the right choices, it stays off.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    Reading the article, it looks like the study is only looking at the data from British health records. There's no indication that many of the people included in the study dataset even had been on a deliberate weight loss plan. The statistic is possibly skewed more heavily towards failure if they aren't evaluating for individual plans or commitment levels (self initiated vs. doctor recommended).

    Unfortunately a lot of people will take that one piece of information to justify their own defeatist mindset and give themselves permission to fail
    Yeah, given what the explanation of the data sounds like, and what the NWCR speaker said in a presentation, it could just be more women know they need to lose weight, and actually try diets.
    The article makes it sounds like the data is just a collection of people's BMI records and seeing if any of the records that hit obese ever went back into normal, and excludes gastric bypass patients.
  • Merkavar
    Merkavar Posts: 3,082 Member
    flyingtanuki wrote: »
    <---- I succeeded. So, 209 of you might as well give up and leave. :p


    But but but ... Fine. I'll leave then, no point
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    Merkavar wrote: »
    flyingtanuki wrote: »
    <---- I succeeded. So, 209 of you might as well give up and leave. :p


    But but but ... Fine. I'll leave then, no point
    PSST, just cheat and get back in the line.
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    Reading the article, it looks like the study is only looking at the data from British health records. There's no indication that many of the people included in the study dataset even had been on a deliberate weight loss plan. The statistic is possibly skewed more heavily towards failure if they aren't evaluating for individual plans or commitment levels (self initiated vs. doctor recommended).

    Unfortunately a lot of people will take that one piece of information to justify their own defeatist mindset and give themselves permission to fail

    Yeah, the article seems a bit sensationalizing (shocking, I know). Nowhere does it mention that anyone was trying to lose weight?
    Each year obese men have a one in 12 chance of achieving five per cent weight loss, rising to one in 10 among women. But 53 per cent of people who had achieved this regained the weight within a year, and after five years, only 22 per cent had maintained their weight loss.

    This part is more telling. Of those that DID lose weight, 22% maintained it for 5+ years. That's a lot better than the <.5% chance they are quoting.

    Furthermore, they talk about losing 5% of weight? For a 200lb person that's only 10lbs. My weight can fluctuate more than that inside of a week. Again, no mention of whether these people were even trying to lose that weight. It could have just been slight shifts year to year. I'd like to see the stats for people who consciously were trying to lose weight and lost a more reasonable amount (say 10-20% or higher). I'm guessing it's a whole lot higher than 1 in 210.
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    6502programmer wrote: »
    Meh. I quit smoking my first attempt. This is cake compared to nicotine.

    Ditto to this!
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    Alatariel75 wrote: »
    Do these stats take into account the vast number of people who never try?

    Exactly. No, they don't.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
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  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
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  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
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    Evil, evil, bunny...did I see you in a Monty Python movie?
  • Merkavar
    Merkavar Posts: 3,082 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
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    Psa: while at work don't search google images for "the average adult has one testicle" in an attempt to find that image, to share later.
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  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,641 Member
    I also dislike statistics. My solution is to create new data.
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