Overweight gym staff
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madhatter2013 wrote: »isulo_kura wrote: »ExRelaySprinter wrote: »Overweight Gym staff with "Health Maker" on their Shirts, trying to advise me how to get fit & healthy - wouldn't fill me with too much confidence.
That's like going to a Dermatologist who's face is covered in Spots!
What a terrible metaphor just because someone has spots would not mean they are a bad dermatologist. They could have a condition that is difficult to treat by anyone no matter how good. Maybe they became a dermatologist due to their issues. In the same way someone may work at a gym because of their personal issues. I've seen over weight and unfit looking Olympic coaches that have trained people to Gold medals. How someone looks is not an indication of their knowledge.
How about a dentist with horrible, rotted out teeth?
I would find out who their dentist is and avoid them.
Nope...dental care is based on taking personal responsibility for the state of your teeth...not something a dentist gives you...regular brushing, flossing and dentist visits...if you can't be bothered doing that why would I visit you as a dentist?0 -
It matters to me.
I asked the person at my gym with the best abs and torso how she did it. I asked politely and she actually shared a great deal with me and helped me get to 33 jeans size over the last 6 months.
I look to people that have done it. People that are in shape and go to the gym regularly. Lifestyle people that know and do the right things.
Same thing with cycling. I seek info from and ride with good riders that ride regularly and safely in the draft. I don't want to be in a big crash going 25 mph down a hill.
My Dr is overweight but he is very specialized in reversing Type 2 diabetes and helped me do so. I don't pay him to look pretty. Kind of his problem. He has asked me to talk to other patients. Funny.
In the hospital the large numbers of severely overweight staff seems ironic.
For fitness related help, I seek fit people.
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It's like when a member/poster who is 19 with a profile picture of a rapper throwing a sign and answers threads with a know it all snarky attitude, I ignore his knowledge/advice
So ya, wouldn't take the gym staff seriously with their advice
Judging a poster's advice by their profile picture seems really silly and I'm unsure why you felt the need to turn the discussion into an attack on another poster anyway . . .
I'm pretty sure someone can like rap and also have solid knowledge to offer on fitness/weight loss.
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Overweight gym employees may actually have more insight into weight loss issues, if they are working on losing weight.
In college I ran sprint-length triathlons, & I have significant medical training since then. So even though I'm fat, I know a lot about aerobic exercise (and spew it around the fora frequently). In my case, orthopedic injury and thyroid failure got my weight where it is today.
You'll notice I don't talk much about weight training because I don't have serious experience with it--I only speak up when what I do know is pertinent to someone's question:
If you are gaining muscle strength, bulk or not, you are increasing your muscle-based metabolic burn rate. At some point you can't gain more strength without gaining more bulk, but I suspect few people truly reach that point. What I was taught is, if you want strength with less bulk, use lower weights with more reps. If you want strength with more bulk, use higher weight with fewer reps. Neither is wrong, they just achieve different things; you just need to train in the way consistent with your goals. You don't have to visibly bulk up for weight training to increase your BMR.
But I'm open to being corrected by a serious weight-trainer if I'm propagating myths.0 -
I know a lot more about specific medical conditions than many primary care physicians because do independent research...clearly not more than specialists but I have had to correct hospital generalists before, or double check their prescriptions ...I've been proved right on a number of occasions
This is very true. If you have a medical condition and have read up on it, you may be more informed than a generalist practitioner on the topic.
Sorry for the thread-shift. Back to your regular topic, carry on...
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janejellyroll wrote: »It's like when a member/poster who is 19 with a profile picture of a rapper throwing a sign and answers threads with a know it all snarky attitude, I ignore his knowledge/advice
So ya, wouldn't take the gym staff seriously with their advice
Judging a poster's advice by their profile picture seems really silly and I'm unsure why you felt the need to turn the discussion into an attack on another poster anyway . . .
I'm pretty sure someone can like rap and also have solid knowledge to offer on fitness/weight loss.
Although I don't base my opinion of posters on their avatars, it makes every bit as much sense to do that as it does to assess knowledge based on someone's body composition.0 -
Sometimes those that can't do, teach...but that doesn't mean their teachings are bad...unless they are actually bad...then I'd change gyms :P0
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It's obvious that people look for different things in their trainers/coaches/etc... Whether you would relate to someone who is overweight, or whether someone more fit is what you need for motivation... It doesn't make anyone wrong that they have a preference.
I have a friend whose trainer tells her "no carbs, no alcohol, clean eating, blah blah" and I personally wouldn't work with him. I know that mentality isn't going to work for me. It doesn't mean it won't work for others.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »It's like when a member/poster who is 19 with a profile picture of a rapper throwing a sign and answers threads with a know it all snarky attitude, I ignore his knowledge/advice
So ya, wouldn't take the gym staff seriously with their advice
Judging a poster's advice by their profile picture seems really silly and I'm unsure why you felt the need to turn the discussion into an attack on another poster anyway . . .
I'm pretty sure someone can like rap and also have solid knowledge to offer on fitness/weight loss.
Although I don't base my opinion of posters on their avatars, it makes every bit as much sense to do that as it does to assess knowledge based on someone's body composition.
I have never advocated for judging someone's knowledge based on their body composition. Did you mean to direct this to someone else?0 -
I didn't say you had. I didn't imply it. I didn't even think it.janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »It's like when a member/poster who is 19 with a profile picture of a rapper throwing a sign and answers threads with a know it all snarky attitude, I ignore his knowledge/advice
So ya, wouldn't take the gym staff seriously with their advice
Judging a poster's advice by their profile picture seems really silly and I'm unsure why you felt the need to turn the discussion into an attack on another poster anyway . . .
I'm pretty sure someone can like rap and also have solid knowledge to offer on fitness/weight loss.
Although I don't base my opinion of posters on their avatars, it makes every bit as much sense to do that as it does to assess knowledge based on someone's body composition.
I have never advocated for judging someone's knowledge based on their body composition. Did you mean to direct this to someone else?
I just think it's an apt comparison.
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janejellyroll wrote: »It's like when a member/poster who is 19 with a profile picture of a rapper throwing a sign and answers threads with a know it all snarky attitude, I ignore his knowledge/advice
So ya, wouldn't take the gym staff seriously with their advice
Judging a poster's advice by their profile picture seems really silly and I'm unsure why you felt the need to turn the discussion into an attack on another poster anyway . . .
I'm pretty sure someone can like rap and also have solid knowledge to offer on fitness/weight loss.
You missed the other two important factors which was age and snarky attitude. The profile pic was that of a rapper and not himself. That was my point on the picture reference. If he had a picture of his fit body like some of the veteran posters here, I would probably take him more seriously. It's not about if he likes rap. You just selected the rap part of my post and assumed attack on rap. Who doesn't like rap? It's a form of poetic art
Those two seem as unimportant as liking rap. Someone can be 19 and know a great deal. Someone can be snarky and know a great deal. None of the factors you mentioned (profile picture of a rapper, age, attitude) have anything to do with the validity of advice offered.
Again, why are you turning this into a discussion of another poster?
My picture is of a plastic dinosaur and some blackberries. Would you disregard any advice I had to offer?0 -
KANGOOJUMPS wrote: »we are all in it together.
LOL wut?
I realize we are 6 pages in and this on the first page- but no. we aren't. I'm in this for me.
best of luck to you- but my journey and my path is mine- you're on your own with as much help as you're willing to take- but no one's going to do it for you.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »It's like when a member/poster who is 19 with a profile picture of a rapper throwing a sign and answers threads with a know it all snarky attitude, I ignore his knowledge/advice
So ya, wouldn't take the gym staff seriously with their advice
Judging a poster's advice by their profile picture seems really silly and I'm unsure why you felt the need to turn the discussion into an attack on another poster anyway . . .
I'm pretty sure someone can like rap and also have solid knowledge to offer on fitness/weight loss.
You missed the other two important factors which was age and snarky attitude. The profile pic was that of a rapper and not himself. That was my point on the picture reference. If he had a picture of his fit body like some of the veteran posters here, I would probably take him more seriously. It's not about if he likes rap. You just selected the rap part of my post and assumed attack on rap. Who doesn't like rap? It's a form of poetic art
...Says the person with an "Exploding Kittens" avatar...
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janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »It's like when a member/poster who is 19 with a profile picture of a rapper throwing a sign and answers threads with a know it all snarky attitude, I ignore his knowledge/advice
So ya, wouldn't take the gym staff seriously with their advice
Judging a poster's advice by their profile picture seems really silly and I'm unsure why you felt the need to turn the discussion into an attack on another poster anyway . . .
I'm pretty sure someone can like rap and also have solid knowledge to offer on fitness/weight loss.
You missed the other two important factors which was age and snarky attitude. The profile pic was that of a rapper and not himself. That was my point on the picture reference. If he had a picture of his fit body like some of the veteran posters here, I would probably take him more seriously. It's not about if he likes rap. You just selected the rap part of my post and assumed attack on rap. Who doesn't like rap? It's a form of poetic art
Those two seem as unimportant as liking rap. Someone can be 19 and know a great deal. Someone can be snarky and know a great deal. None of the factors you mentioned (profile picture of a rapper, age, attitude) have anything to do with the validity of advice offered.
Again, why are you turning this into a discussion of another poster?
My picture is of a plastic dinosaur and some blackberries. Would you disregard any advice I had to offer?
I would if your advice sounds funny.
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KANGOOJUMPS wrote: »we are all in it together.
LOL wut?
I realize we are 6 pages in and this on the first page- but no. we aren't. I'm in this for me.
best of luck to you- but my journey and my path is mine- you're on your own with as much help as you're willing to take- but no one's going to do it for you.
But someone else is getting some benefits with you as well.
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But do you know what Exploding Kittens is??janejellyroll wrote: »It's like when a member/poster who is 19 with a profile picture of a rapper throwing a sign and answers threads with a know it all snarky attitude, I ignore his knowledge/advice
So ya, wouldn't take the gym staff seriously with their advice
Judging a poster's advice by their profile picture seems really silly and I'm unsure why you felt the need to turn the discussion into an attack on another poster anyway . . .
I'm pretty sure someone can like rap and also have solid knowledge to offer on fitness/weight loss.
You missed the other two important factors which was age and snarky attitude. The profile pic was that of a rapper and not himself. That was my point on the picture reference. If he had a picture of his fit body like some of the veteran posters here, I would probably take him more seriously. It's not about if he likes rap. You just selected the rap part of my post and assumed attack on rap. Who doesn't like rap? It's a form of poetic art
...Says the person with an "Exploding Kittens" avatar...
People keep saying that we don't know if an overweight trainer has a lot of credentials or not, and that we shouldn't judge them based on their appearance. I worked at a gym for 3 years during college, and I can tell you, the good ones DON'T work at the (bigger corporate) gyms for long- They leave and start their own practices.
It's literally a self study (sometimes classroom) test that you pay $400-$1000 to take that gives you a certification. As someone said earlier, it's basically a sales job (selling yourself).
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yopeeps025 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »It's like when a member/poster who is 19 with a profile picture of a rapper throwing a sign and answers threads with a know it all snarky attitude, I ignore his knowledge/advice
So ya, wouldn't take the gym staff seriously with their advice
Judging a poster's advice by their profile picture seems really silly and I'm unsure why you felt the need to turn the discussion into an attack on another poster anyway . . .
I'm pretty sure someone can like rap and also have solid knowledge to offer on fitness/weight loss.
You missed the other two important factors which was age and snarky attitude. The profile pic was that of a rapper and not himself. That was my point on the picture reference. If he had a picture of his fit body like some of the veteran posters here, I would probably take him more seriously. It's not about if he likes rap. You just selected the rap part of my post and assumed attack on rap. Who doesn't like rap? It's a form of poetic art
Those two seem as unimportant as liking rap. Someone can be 19 and know a great deal. Someone can be snarky and know a great deal. None of the factors you mentioned (profile picture of a rapper, age, attitude) have anything to do with the validity of advice offered.
Again, why are you turning this into a discussion of another poster?
My picture is of a plastic dinosaur and some blackberries. Would you disregard any advice I had to offer?
I would if your advice sounds funny.
I would think you would disregard my advice if it sounded funny no matter what my profile picture was. After all, it would be incredibly easy for me to find a photo of a super impressive body online and use that as my profile picture. Paying more attention to someone's advice because their profile picture looks awesome isn't a great strategy (not that you're proposing to do that, but the person I was discussing this with suggested that a progress picture would be a better avatar than a rapper).0
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