Now That I Can Eat...Always Hungry
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Sorry, I haven't read through the responses, so I don't know if anyone has already mentioned this.
Have you recently changed your carbohydrate to protein ratio? If you are eating more carbohydrate and less protein than you were typically eating before, then you may be experiencing some changes in your blood sugar balance and it might cause you to feel more hungry.
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Sorry, I haven't read through the responses, so I don't know if anyone has already mentioned this.
Have you recently changed your carbohydrate to protein ratio? If you are eating more carbohydrate and less protein than you were typically eating before, then you may be experiencing some changes in your blood sugar balance and it might cause you to feel more hungry.
No I actually upped my protein intake.
But thanks so much for your input!
I think it all comes down to my body needs to get used to my new "normal".
It's just funny how I was surviving on 1200 (sometimes less) a day and wasn't hungry but now that I am eating more I am hungry...
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DoreenaV1975 wrote: »I was fine on 1200...some days I didn't even eat that much because I simply wasn't hungry... just ate at least the 1,000 required by MFP not to get yelled at.
It's amazing what you get used to (which is why I said I'm sure I'll get used to it)!
I eventually made it up somewhere along the way...
BTW - for my height, age, and weight, many online calorie calculators suggested I eat less than 1200 when I was losing weight...
They even have sites that give you meal plans for 1,000 calorie days.
So it's not unheard of
only MFP said I had to eat at least 1200.
So again it is possible although not ideal...
Besides I I don't even mind not eating that much... Food isn't that important to me.
I just want to go back to way it used to be when I would not be hungry.
And again I DO EXERCISE... what you're not understanding is it doesn't make a difference as far as calorie intake goes because I don't trust exercise calories so I will not eat them back...
Since I'm little I don't burn that many calories when I exercise... so for me... if I exercise and burn let's say 150 calories... cutting that in half I only get 75 calories extra... seriously not that much of a difference.
Well you are burning the exercise calories. So if you're not eating them back, and you're accurate in your logging, you're not eating at maintenance, and you will keep losing weight.
So just give it some time and see how your body adjusts... if you keep losing, increase by 100 calories.0 -
I had the same thing happen, I got to my goal weight and then I moved to higher altitude, got so hungry that it only took 6 months to regain everything I worked so hard to lose. now I am back to square one. I wish so much that I started logging again sooner. so now I am back to walking in the evenings, not so much to burn calories, but to keep from snacking. also, I ate whatever I wanted, and it took awhile before I started gaining, so I thought I was good to go based on my activities, don't fall for that 0
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OP, have you considered intermittent fasting? This works for some, but not all. I find that when I limit my day's eating to an 8-10 hour window, I am less hungry overall. That's because my meals during my eating window are bigger and more satisfying (still eating a whole day's calories - just in less time). Basically, I stop eating after dinner then don't eat again until around lunchtime the next day. With lots of water and a cup or two of coffee in the morning I'm generally not even hungry until lunchtime arrives. I guess I don't do this every day, but probably 4-5 days a week. There are lots of intermittent fasting posts on the forums and lots of info on the internet if you are interested in trying it out.0
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DoreenaV1975 wrote: »Basically what my title says....
I'm at maintenance, new to it...just started a few days ago, and now that I can eat more I'm always hungry!
The sad thing is my maintenance calories aren't much more than my deficit calories since I'm only 5'1" 107ish pounds.
(deficit = 1200 maintenance= 1370 per MFP)
It's tough to be a short woman. As others have said, try to increase the protein in your diet and maybe the fat. They tend to be more satisfying than carbs, especially sugars. Exercise is a healthy habit, but I would not rely on it for weight maintenance: watch what you eat.
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DoreenaV1975 wrote: »I was fine on 1200...some days I didn't even eat that much because I simply wasn't hungry... just ate at least the 1,000 required by MFP not to get yelled at.
It's amazing what you get used to (which is why I said I'm sure I'll get used to it)!
I eventually made it up somewhere along the way...
BTW - for my height, age, and weight, many online calorie calculators suggested I eat less than 1200 when I was losing weight...
They even have sites that give you meal plans for 1,000 calorie days.
So it's not unheard of
only MFP said I had to eat at least 1200.
So again it is possible although not ideal...
Besides I I don't even mind not eating that much... Food isn't that important to me.
I just want to go back to way it used to be when I would not be hungry.
And again I DO EXERCISE... what you're not understanding is it doesn't make a difference as far as calorie intake goes because I don't trust exercise calories so I will not eat them back...
Since I'm little I don't burn that many calories when I exercise... so for me... if I exercise and burn let's say 150 calories... cutting that in half I only get 75 calories extra... seriously not that much of a difference.
Well you are burning the exercise calories. So if you're not eating them back, and you're accurate in your logging, you're not eating at maintenance, and you will keep losing weight.
So just give it some time and see how your body adjusts... if you keep losing, increase by 100 calories.
Yeah I get that... like I said I just worry about the overestimation.
Right now I'm taking a break from exercise... as in doing not nearly as much as I used to..
so I am maintaining in the 107lbs range.
If I keep losing weight, I will do as you advise.
Just like losing weight was... maintenance will be a learning process.0 -
Have you considered using TDEE as a calorie goal?
It already includes general exercise calories and spreads them over the week.0 -
jessiefrancine wrote: »OP, have you considered intermittent fasting? This works for some, but not all. I find that when I limit my day's eating to an 8-10 hour window, I am less hungry overall. That's because my meals during my eating window are bigger and more satisfying (still eating a whole day's calories - just in less time). Basically, I stop eating after dinner then don't eat again until around lunchtime the next day. With lots of water and a cup or two of coffee in the morning I'm generally not even hungry until lunchtime arrives. I guess I don't do this every day, but probably 4-5 days a week. There are lots of intermittent fasting posts on the forums and lots of info on the internet if you are interested in trying it out.
I (generally) eat/intake calories 6 times a day: Breakfast, Morning Snack, Lunch, Afternoon Snack, Dinner, Evening Snack
I say generally because sometimes I'm too busy and in some cases because I forget to eat (because I'm honestly not hungry). I don't mind so much if I miss because that just gives me more calories to look forward to on the weekend if I need them. I try to stick to my calorie goals per day. but as long as the mostly even out for the week I'm good!
So in a sense I am doing intermittent fasting... just not on a consistent basis.
But in the past, even when I missed a meal, I wouldn't be hungry from it...
I'm just trying to get used to this feeling of hunger w/ MORE calories.0 -
Have you considered using TDEE as a calorie goal?
It already includes general exercise calories and spreads them over the week.
I have but since my exercise isn't always consistent I'm afraid it will not work.
Don't you have to input: I work out (#)times a week for (#) times of minutes?
If so, what happens when I don't get my "proposed" exercise in? Do I just eat at deficit?
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DoreenaV1975 wrote: »Basically what my title says....
I'm at maintenance, new to it...just started a few days ago, and now that I can eat more I'm always hungry!
The sad thing is my maintenance calories aren't much more than my deficit calories since I'm only 5'1" 107ish pounds.
(deficit = 1200 maintenance= 1370 per MFP)
It's tough to be a short woman. As others have said, try to increase the protein in your diet and maybe the fat. They tend to be more satisfying than carbs, especially sugars. Exercise is a healthy habit, but I would not rely on it for weight maintenance: watch what you eat.
Right! The reliance on exercise scares me! But as someone earlier stated I should just slowly start adding additional calories if I see that I am still losing weight. Sounds easy, right?!? LOL!0 -
I had the same thing happen, I got to my goal weight and then I moved to higher altitude, got so hungry that it only took 6 months to regain everything I worked so hard to lose. now I am back to square one. I wish so much that I started logging again sooner. so now I am back to walking in the evenings, not so much to burn calories, but to keep from snacking. also, I ate whatever I wanted, and it took awhile before I started gaining, so I thought I was good to go based on my activities, don't fall for that
I still log! I don't think I will ever stop! It's the only thing that has ever truly worked for me as far as weight loss goes!0 -
DoreenaV1975 wrote: »Have you considered using TDEE as a calorie goal?
It already includes general exercise calories and spreads them over the week.
I have but since my exercise isn't always consistent I'm afraid it will not work.
Don't you have to input: I work out (#)times a week for (#) times of minutes?
If so, what happens when I don't get my "proposed" exercise in? Do I just eat at deficit?
Yeah it doesn't work so well if your activity isn't consistent.0 -
Hi OP: you mentioned a few times that you do only a little bit of cardio (though it could well be extremely intense cardio; I am saying a little bit in terms of total amount of time per week) and you are concerned about eating back the exercise calories.
A basic fitbit zip costs $59. For most people fitbit's TDEE calculation is not overstated.
If it is overstated it tends to be an overstatement of well under 10% and is often evidence of thermogenic adaptation which you may want to try to counteract anyway.
If you use a fitbit and enable negative adjustments (as per the MFP Fitbit group's FAQ written by @heybales ), you can then eat as per the fitbit suggestions with less concern about your exercise burns...0 -
Another thing about exercise... how do you count Strength Training calories? I just started so I wouldn't say I'm burning a lot of calories from it (or maybe I am...I'm new to this) so if I'm not accounting for that, it could be a (small) part of the reason I am hungrier, right? Or is that wishful thinking, LOL!0
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Hi OP: you mentioned a few times that you do only a little bit of cardio (though it could well be extremely intense cardio; I am saying a little bit in terms of total amount of time per week) and you are concerned about eating back the exercise calories.
A basic fitbit zip costs $59. For most people fitbit's TDEE calculation is not overstated.
If it is overstated it tends to be an overstatement of well under 10% and is often evidence of thermogenic adaptation which you may want to try to counteract anyway.
If you use a fitbit and enable negative adjustments (as per the MFP Fitbit group's FAQ written by @heybales ), you can then eat as per the fitbit suggestions with less concern about your exercise burns...
@PAV8888 Really? Hmmm.... I just have always heard that calorie trackers aren't accurate...
And I generally average about 30mins on the elliptical 3-4xs a week. 30mins for me on the elliptical = approximately 300cals. But since I don't have the option to plug in my data: age and weight... I don't trust it.
The treadmill at my gym, which I can plug my data into, has me burning only about 100 calories for the same amount of time going about the same speed! Does the elliptical burn more?
I was just looking at the zip on Amazon...sounds good! Do you actually have one?0 -
DoreenaV1975 wrote: »Another thing about exercise... how do you count Strength Training calories? I just started so I wouldn't say I'm burning a lot of calories from it (or maybe I am...I'm new to this) so if I'm not accounting for that, it could be a (small) part of the reason I am hungrier, right? Or is that wishful thinking, LOL!
I've never counted my strength training exercise calories. I'm set to lightly active though so it seems to fit into that goal.0 -
DoreenaV1975 wrote: »jessiefrancine wrote: »OP, have you considered intermittent fasting? This works for some, but not all. I find that when I limit my day's eating to an 8-10 hour window, I am less hungry overall. That's because my meals during my eating window are bigger and more satisfying (still eating a whole day's calories - just in less time). Basically, I stop eating after dinner then don't eat again until around lunchtime the next day. With lots of water and a cup or two of coffee in the morning I'm generally not even hungry until lunchtime arrives. I guess I don't do this every day, but probably 4-5 days a week. There are lots of intermittent fasting posts on the forums and lots of info on the internet if you are interested in trying it out.
I (generally) eat/intake calories 6 times a day: Breakfast, Morning Snack, Lunch, Afternoon Snack, Dinner, Evening Snack
I say generally because sometimes I'm too busy and in some cases because I forget to eat (because I'm honestly not hungry). I don't mind so much if I miss because that just gives me more calories to look forward to on the weekend if I need them. I try to stick to my calorie goals per day. but as long as the mostly even out for the week I'm good!
So in a sense I am doing intermittent fasting... just not on a consistent basis.
But in the past, even when I missed a meal, I wouldn't be hungry from it...
I'm just trying to get used to this feeling of hunger w/ MORE calories.
IF isn't about missing one of your snacks or lunch in the middle of the day if you're busy...you have to have a minimum of 12 hours with no calorie intake for your body to even start fasting otherwise you're just always going around in a fed state. I stick to 14 or 16 hours per day, once in a blue moon longer, and that's missing a regular person's "breakfast" meal which I have at about 11am or 12pm, then my "feeding" time is about 12-8pm where you eat your entire allotted day's worth of calories. This works naturally for me (for 3 years now) as I don't have time to eat before work...I'd rather sleep more. This method of timing could possibly help you curb your hunger. For me, it's a mix of things like: IF, macro ratios, snacking vs. 2 huge meals, getting adequate water intake, drinking calories vs eating calories, boredom vs. keeping busy, exercise day vs. rest day, etc...
For more good info on IF: leangains.com was one of the better reads.0 -
tephanies1234 wrote: »DoreenaV1975 wrote: »jessiefrancine wrote: »OP, have you considered intermittent fasting? This works for some, but not all. I find that when I limit my day's eating to an 8-10 hour window, I am less hungry overall. That's because my meals during my eating window are bigger and more satisfying (still eating a whole day's calories - just in less time). Basically, I stop eating after dinner then don't eat again until around lunchtime the next day. With lots of water and a cup or two of coffee in the morning I'm generally not even hungry until lunchtime arrives. I guess I don't do this every day, but probably 4-5 days a week. There are lots of intermittent fasting posts on the forums and lots of info on the internet if you are interested in trying it out.
I (generally) eat/intake calories 6 times a day: Breakfast, Morning Snack, Lunch, Afternoon Snack, Dinner, Evening Snack
I say generally because sometimes I'm too busy and in some cases because I forget to eat (because I'm honestly not hungry). I don't mind so much if I miss because that just gives me more calories to look forward to on the weekend if I need them. I try to stick to my calorie goals per day. but as long as the mostly even out for the week I'm good!
So in a sense I am doing intermittent fasting... just not on a consistent basis.
But in the past, even when I missed a meal, I wouldn't be hungry from it...
I'm just trying to get used to this feeling of hunger w/ MORE calories.
IF isn't about missing one of your snacks or lunch in the middle of the day if you're busy...you have to have a minimum of 12 hours with no calorie intake for your body to even start fasting otherwise you're just always going around in a fed state. I stick to 14 or 16 hours per day, once in a blue moon longer, and that's missing a regular person's "breakfast" meal which I have at about 11am or 12pm, then my "feeding" time is about 12-8pm where you eat your entire allotted day's worth of calories. This works naturally for me (for 3 years now) as I don't have time to eat before work...I'd rather sleep more. This method of timing could possibly help you curb your hunger. For me, it's a mix of things like: IF, macro ratios, snacking vs. 2 huge meals, getting adequate water intake, drinking calories vs eating calories, boredom vs. keeping busy, exercise day vs. rest day, etc...
For more good info on IF: leangains.com was one of the better reads.
Okay, thank you.0 -
I had the same problem. Losing on 1200, then 1300. Maintain around 1500 now but seem hungrier lol.0
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Have an enormous bowl of cooked cauliflower, 3-4 servings (60 calories), some green beans, (25 calories), some bean sprouts (200g for like 40 calories) with some soy sauce and 1/2 a tsp or margerine or olive oil (15 calories).
If you add this ~130 calories to your protein source, shake, fruit, etc. your stomach will surely feel full. You'll be getting a ton of nutrients, and your stomach will send signals to your brain that you're feeling more full. If you do this once or twice a day, rather than eating things like dairy or processed foods, it's a lot easier to feel full, satiated and satisfied.0 -
I have not read through all of the responses so this may be a repeat of information. When I went into maintenance, I slowly stopped counting calories (gasp, yes - you read that right) and pretty much ate what and however much I wanted. However, I do tend to eat light (fewer calories) during the week and heavier on the weekend. I also lift 4 times a week and get in 3-4 runs - one of which is a long distance run ranging anywhere from 8-13 miles.
I credit running as the primary reason I can eat more than I thought possible when I first went into maintenance. Lifting, on the other hand, has changed my body composition for the better.
I've gained and lost within a five pound range due to excess at holidays and what not. I realize everyone is different but for me - increasing my activity made a huge difference in how much I could eat (obviously).0 -
I weigh less then 132 lbs and loose on 1900 Calas a day. I'm extremely active though. I workout 6 days a week most weeks and am an avid runner. I aim to just walk 50 miles a week w my hubby and or the dogs or even alone listening to podcasts in addition to my other workouts. I think weight liftings great but you need to move more for a higher metabolism! It's an appetite suppressant for me.0
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carliekitty wrote: »I weigh less then 132 lbs and loose on 1900 Calas a day. I'm extremely active though. I workout 6 days a week most weeks and am an avid runner. I aim to just walk 50 miles a week w my hubby and or the dogs or even alone listening to podcasts in addition to my other workouts. I think weight liftings great but you need to move more for a higher metabolism! It's an appetite suppressant for me.
@carliekitty - how tall and old are you?
Not making excuses but, height and age reduce your allowable calories...
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I reached my goal weight of 137 lbs, five months ago. 5'7. Age 56. I still weigh/measure almost everything. Don't exercise. Nowadays I eat the same way as when I was losing just maybe a slightly bigger portion of things I really enjoy. Seems to be working for me.0
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Doreena I feel your pain! I am 5'1 130 lbs. Just started trying to lose weight and eat healthier a week and a half ago. I should say I started out at 137 YAY!!. Doctor put me on 1000 calories/day, no sugar, no carbs, no gluten for 4 weeks and then I can start adding in more food. Of course that is darn near next to impossible (at least it feels like it) and can't go to zero of all of that. I am still struggling day to day to feel like I am not very hungry. One thing that has worked GREAT for me in the morning to really feel full is to take an Atkins chocolate shake and put in a tbsp of Smuckers natural peanut butter then add some ice and blend it up! Works great in the mornings to keep me full until lunch.0
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I have a Polar FT4 which has a strap I attach around my chest during workouts. It communicates my heart rate to my polar watch which I wear on my wrist (input all your basic user information into the watch when you get it). It constantly tells me my heart rate, number of calories burned and a time counter for each workout session. It's counting calories burned no matter what I'm doing whether it's cardio or lifting weights. It cost my $89 from Academy but I'm sure it can purchased just about anywhere. No more guessing on calorie burns for any workout or using MFP's overly exaggerated calorie burn for activities.
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Just for fun I calculated my TDEE w/ the following stats:
Female
39
5'1"
107lbs
Sedentary (because I have an office job)
Workouts per week: 4 x 30mins
Guess what it told me? 1350 are my maintenance calories.
TDEE gives me LESS than MFP! MFP doesn't even include exercise and it still says I can eat more! WTH?!
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DoreenaV1975 wrote: »Just for fun I calculated my TDEE w/ the following stats:
Female
39
5'1"
107lbs
Sedentary (because I have an office job)
Workouts per week: 4 x 30mins
Guess what it told me? 1350 are my maintenance calories.
TDEE gives me LESS than MFP! MFP doesn't even include exercise and it still says I can eat more! WTH?!
which calculator did you use? And are you really sedentary? I mean you may have an office job but do you walk a lot/have active hobbies?0 -
arditarose wrote: »DoreenaV1975 wrote: »Just for fun I calculated my TDEE w/ the following stats:
Female
39
5'1"
107lbs
Sedentary (because I have an office job)
Workouts per week: 4 x 30mins
Guess what it told me? 1350 are my maintenance calories.
TDEE gives me LESS than MFP! MFP doesn't even include exercise and it still says I can eat more! WTH?!
which calculator did you use? And are you really sedentary? I mean you may have an office job but do you walk a lot/have active hobbies?
http://iifym.com/iifym-calculator/
Yes, I'm sedentary.
Unless I actively pursue exercise, I'm not really doing a whole lot.
Unless you just count every day life like running errands or doing household chores.
My hobbies are all "sit-down" hobbies.
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