Sugar free

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  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    OP while its true that macros have different thermal effects of foods, its very minimal in most cases. Something like for a 60g increase in protein, it would burn an additional 80 calories. IIRC, TEF for protein is like 20%, carbs are like 5 or 6% and fats around 3%. This doesnt mean you can add an additional 600 calories and lose more weight.

    If what you previously listed was an accurate statement then you where eating like 600 calories in fruit alone. And knowing the common issues on MFP, you were probably significantly under reporting calories in.

    And for the most part you process almost all sugars the same... its either broken down in the intestinal track or the liver.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    Treasureslide wrote: »
    I go sugar free now in my tea/coffee... no honey/sugar dates on my oats and watch out for sugar in yogurt, it has really reduced my cravings for sweet treats which would derail me, I can taste the sweetness of sweet potatoes now. And bitter chocolate has become my treat! Its working! and saving my teeth! Sugar has hormonal effects on our bodies any one who say all calories are the same are WRONG in terms our nutritional support.
    What hormonal impacts are you speaking of?

  • lorrpb
    lorrpb Posts: 11,463 Member
    I try minimize my sugar intake because I feel less hungry, fewer cravings, and save calories. But not completely sugar-free. That would be very hard to do and, for me, no particular reason to do so.
  • coco_bee
    coco_bee Posts: 173 Member
    edited August 2015

    Nope. Calories and nutrition are NOT the same thing. Calories are for weight loss. You can literally eat 1200 calories of pure white sugar and lose weight. That would be a bad idea because you wouldn't be getting the right nutrition. A calorie is a calorie for weight loss. What goes along with that calorie is what matters for overall health. Like... not getting scurvy. Which funnily enough brings us back onto sugar and why cutting out fruit isn't a very good idea. The best sources of vitamin C (prevents scurvy) are fruits.
    Personally, I put my mental health on the same level as my physical health. Cookies make me happy. So I will eat one, every now and again, when it fits my calories.

    Well said and I agree!

  • annetteh145
    annetteh145 Posts: 38 Member
    One calorie actually does equal 1 calorie. There's no doubt scientifically. The reason why many people fall for low sugar or low carb diets is because initially you will notice a reduction in weight and waist size due to the loss of water. Carb molecules bind 4 molecules of water etc. Cutting very ow on any essential macros (fat, protein,carbs, sugar etc.) isn't something to promote to people that are serious about being healthy or seriously overweight and looking to become healthy. Too many calories and too little burn (activity) = fat gain. On the other hand if you are already normal weighted and have some extra fat to lose, yes, cutting out sugar or carbs will make you shrink quick and feel happy! It's not a fit and healthy approach though. From your profile pic you don't appear to be on the fat side. I haven't looked up,your stats but if you aren't overweight Maybe you should rethink your weight loss journey altogether and instead just go to the gym and get in shape.
  • annetteh145
    annetteh145 Posts: 38 Member
    Either way. Try stevia extract if you crave sweetness. I use it in coffee and tea.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    One calorie equals one calorie just like one gallon of gas will yield the same BTU's as another gallon of gas from the same storage tank. Therefore the mileage of all cars that burn gas from the same source are equal. :)
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    annetteh145 wrote: »
    Cutting very ow on any essential macros (fat, protein,carbs, sugar etc.) isn't something to promote to people that are serious about being healthy or seriously overweight and looking to become healthy.

    Did I miss the breaking news that dietary sugar intake is essential ?
  • lawanddean
    lawanddean Posts: 46 Member
    annetteh145 wrote: »
    Either way. Try stevia extract if you crave sweetness. I use it in coffee and tea.

  • lawanddean
    lawanddean Posts: 46 Member
    Thanks I'll try that :)
  • lawanddean
    lawanddean Posts: 46 Member
    GaleHawkins wrote: »
    One calorie equals one calorie just like one gallon of gas will yield the same BTU's as another gallon of gas from the same storage tank. Therefore the mileage of all cars that burn gas from the same source are equal. :)

  • lawanddean
    lawanddean Posts: 46 Member
    Agree :)
  • lawanddean
    lawanddean Posts: 46 Member
    annetteh145 wrote: »
    One calorie actually does equal 1 calorie. There's no doubt scientifically. The reason why many people fall for low sugar or low carb diets is because initially you will notice a reduction in weight and waist size due to the loss of water. Carb molecules bind 4 molecules of water etc. Cutting very ow on any essential macros (fat, protein,carbs, sugar etc.) isn't something to promote to people that are serious about being healthy or seriously overweight and looking to become healthy. Too many calories and too little burn (activity) = fat gain. On the other hand if you are already normal weighted and have some extra fat to lose, yes, cutting out sugar or carbs will make you shrink quick and feel happy! It's not a fit and healthy approach though. From your profile pic you don't appear to be on the fat side. I haven't looked up,your stats but if you aren't overweight Maybe you should rethink your weight loss journey altogether and instead just go to the gym and get in shape.

  • lawanddean
    lawanddean Posts: 46 Member
    Hi thanks for your reply, my weight loss aim was from having twins 12 months ago where I put on 4 stone, I've managed to loss most of it from been active and eating healthy but was about half a stone away from goal and it wouldn't shift. So watched a few documentaries about eating heathy and they said cut out added sugar which I've done and has worked. I'm new to cutting out added sugar it's now only been about 2 weeks but the half a stone has gone, belly is flat and I'm never tired even though I'm up at 5am every day with my babies. Just wondered what people thought as it is interesting to hear people's thoughts on this, I take everything on board and appreciate the responses
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    @lawanddean press quote, and then type your reply underneath the quote.... In the same box/reply :smile:

  • lawanddean
    lawanddean Posts: 46 Member
    edited August 2015
    christinev297 wrote: »
    @lawanddean press quote, and then type your reply underneath the quote.... In the same box/reply :smile:

    Oh thanks that makes more sense :)
  • lawanddean
    lawanddean Posts: 46 Member
    lawanddean wrote: »
    christinev297 wrote: »
    @lawanddean press quote, and then type your reply underneath the quote.... In the same box/reply :smile:

    Oh thanks, that makes more sense :)
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    GaleHawkins wrote: »
    One calorie equals one calorie just like one gallon of gas will yield the same BTU's as another gallon of gas from the same storage tank. Therefore the mileage of all cars that burn gas from the same source are equal. :)
    That is a terrible analogy. Motors from different cars are different in size. That is like comparing someone who is 300 lbs vs 120 lbs. Of course the 300 lb person is going to burn more gas. It has nothing to do with 93 octane vs 87 octane. And on top of that if you compare the same car, the the gas is going to be equivalent based on ones driving style.. again the one who is more active or drives harder will burn more gas.

    And honestly, if you are going to compare types of fuel sugar, especially dextrose, would burn the cleanest and fastest. Its the quickest source of fuel one can have. In fact, all carbs would be considered more effective than fats since they are primary sources of fuel. So you would have to compare fats to secondary fuel tanks because you would have to wait until your tanks burn glycogen (primary) and wait for your body to switch to secondary (fats)
  • MarziPanda95
    MarziPanda95 Posts: 1,326 Member
    lawanddean wrote: »
    Hi thanks for your reply, my weight loss aim was from having twins 12 months ago where I put on 4 stone, I've managed to loss most of it from been active and eating healthy but was about half a stone away from goal and it wouldn't shift. So watched a few documentaries about eating heathy and they said cut out added sugar which I've done and has worked. I'm new to cutting out added sugar it's now only been about 2 weeks but the half a stone has gone, belly is flat and I'm never tired even though I'm up at 5am every day with my babies. Just wondered what people thought as it is interesting to hear people's thoughts on this, I take everything on board and appreciate the responses

    I hate to break it to you, but 99% of health 'documentaries' are complete and utter woo. Broscience. Usually no scientific studies to back up what they say.
    You lost the half stone because you were eating less calories, not because you cut out added sugar.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    And honestly, if you are going to compare types of fuel sugar, especially dextrose, would burn the cleanest and fastest. Its the quickest source of fuel one can have. In fact, all carbs would be considered more effective than fats since they are primary sources of fuel. So you would have to compare fats to secondary fuel tanks because you would have to wait until your tanks burn glycogen (primary) and wait for your body to switch to secondary (fats)

    You burn both most of the time, especially at rest. If you eat dextrose it requires no digestion and can be used directly, but other than that I'm not sure how one defines clean or fast burning.

    If exercise only draws on glycogen it's futile for weight loss unless you exhaust the supply to get to the fat.
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