Fat Free vs Farm Fresh
loeylovesyou
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Is a 'fat free' product really ever better for you than a good old full fat, but farm fresh one??
I've found myself in many a conversation regarding this topic. In my experience most people believe that it's healthier and better for you to eat 'fat free' products over the non processed farm fresh ones simply because of the fat and calories.
In my opinion I think this is completely backwards. In order for that fattening product to be labeled as 'fat free'; manufactured and highly processed junk needs to be added in place of the natural ingredients that make it fattening.
When it comes to my health and what I put in my body, I will always choose the full fat natural product over the processed mess that people think is 'diet food'.
For example, have you ever read the ingredients on a 'I can't believe it's not butter'? It has so many unpronounceable ingredients in it I get cross eyed looking at it... But hey it's only got 10 calories in it, so it MUST be better than real butter.. Right!? WRONG!!!! Your body isn't made to consume processed and lab manufactured ingredients. Your body wants and needs good old fashioned farm fresh foods that nourish and fuel you.
Now I'm not saying go out and eat excess amounts of the full fat options, as they are still fattening and not good for you in large quantities, but I am saying that we should all think about what we are putting in our bodies when we choose the processed options that read like diet food.
What are your experiences? What foods do you choose to eat fresh and what do you choose to eat 'fat free'?
I've found myself in many a conversation regarding this topic. In my experience most people believe that it's healthier and better for you to eat 'fat free' products over the non processed farm fresh ones simply because of the fat and calories.
In my opinion I think this is completely backwards. In order for that fattening product to be labeled as 'fat free'; manufactured and highly processed junk needs to be added in place of the natural ingredients that make it fattening.
When it comes to my health and what I put in my body, I will always choose the full fat natural product over the processed mess that people think is 'diet food'.
For example, have you ever read the ingredients on a 'I can't believe it's not butter'? It has so many unpronounceable ingredients in it I get cross eyed looking at it... But hey it's only got 10 calories in it, so it MUST be better than real butter.. Right!? WRONG!!!! Your body isn't made to consume processed and lab manufactured ingredients. Your body wants and needs good old fashioned farm fresh foods that nourish and fuel you.
Now I'm not saying go out and eat excess amounts of the full fat options, as they are still fattening and not good for you in large quantities, but I am saying that we should all think about what we are putting in our bodies when we choose the processed options that read like diet food.
What are your experiences? What foods do you choose to eat fresh and what do you choose to eat 'fat free'?
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Nothing needs to be added to make dairy fat free. As for what's preferable between skim, low fat, and full fat, it depends on preferences and goals. I eat skim or low fat to save calories for roasted chicken with skin or cheese or whole eggs, while others may care more about full fat yogurt than I do.0
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Are you talking about dairy? I usually opt for non-fat or reduced fat simply because I have trouble not eating too much fat and I'd rather get it elsewhere. None of the products I buy have a lot of stuff added. The ingredients are usually the same as their full fat counterparts. Yes, there was processing to remove the fat but that doesn't mean something was added to replace the fat. For example: my nonfat greek yogurt has one igredient - cultured grade A nonfat milk.0
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Fat free doesn't have to equal highly processed. There are plenty of reduced fat or fat free dairy products that don't meet the definition.
Fat free as a marketing term is just that, a marketing term. It's a remnant of the fat free diet fad of years ago. Processed junk with no fiber and tons of refined sugar is processed junk, no matter how you label it.0 -
I feel like the dialogue has gone in the opposite direction, where now most people slam any food that might be considered diet-y and say that cleaner foods are per se healthier. It's not that I don't think clean, or organic, or unprocessed, etc. food is healthy, but many of us are also trying to find a manageable way to reduce calories. Sometimes that means I eat lower fat versions of foods. I love avocados, or real butter, or peanut butter, or full fat cheese, but moderation is difficult af sometimes, so I've learned to make sacrifices here and there.0
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I don't eat fat free much of anything, other than occasional Greek yogurt when I can't find another version. I do eat reduced fat dairy such as yogurt, milk, cream cheese, and sour cream. I do so for their reduced calorie contents and because I like their taste (particularly with sour cream)
I eat a container of reduced fat sour cream every week, as I mix it with salsa for salad dressing.0 -
People. I'm not talking about just dairy... That was just an example.. I'm talking about all the low fat and fat free crap like pasta, chips, ice cream, those healthy eating frozen lunches, etc. all the foods that say in big letters 'fat free' low calorie...0
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loeylovesyou wrote: »People. I'm not talking about just dairy... That was just an example.. I'm talking about all the low fat and fat free crap like pasta, chips, ice cream, those healthy eating frozen lunches, etc. all the foods that say in big letters 'fat free' low calorie...
Ok, but the "farm fresh" is what turned it into a discussion about dairy. There's no such thing as a farm fresh bowl of pasta. Well, maybe. But not day to day.
Many of those items have fillers to ensure the proper mouthfeel. I don't really shop in grocery stores mainly because of this.0 -
Pasta shouldn't have fat. The marketing gimmick there is labeling it as if that made it special. Unless you mean prepared pasta dishes from the grocery, which I wouldn't buy.
Maybe I'm just not the market for whatever you are talking about as the only example of this i happen upon much is dairy.0 -
loeylovesyou wrote: »People. I'm not talking about just dairy... That was just an example.. I'm talking about all the low fat and fat free crap like pasta, chips, ice cream, those healthy eating frozen lunches, etc. all the foods that say in big letters 'fat free' low calorie...
Ok, but the "farm fresh" is what turned it into a discussion about dairy. There's no such thing as a farm fresh bowl of pasta. Well, maybe. But not day to day.
Okay maybe farm fresh isn't the right word.. I wasn't looking for people to go all crazy saying low fat is good for you. I never said it wasn't.. What I AM trying to get across is that a lot of the fad diet fat free options that parade around as diet food aren't good for your body. If they are natural and not full of processed junk then by all means it's probably good for you...
The main point here is read the label. I know too many people trying to lose weight and get healthy, but they are eating foods based on the big label in the front stating its low in this and free of that.. Those people ask me how I've stayed so fit and healthy over the years and my answer is I don't buy into the gimmicks. I eat as natural as possible in smart portions and I exercise.0 -
I take "fat free" as a flag for "chemical *kitten* storm". Why take away that which nature intended.0
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loeylovesyou wrote: »People. I'm not talking about just dairy... That was just an example.. I'm talking about all the low fat and fat free crap like pasta, chips, ice cream, those healthy eating frozen lunches, etc. all the foods that say in big letters 'fat free' low calorie...
Well you are unlikely to find farm fresh pasta or frozen meals, so basically you are talking meals from fresh ingredients vs. premade meals, correct?
Having a small farm myself I'm all for farm fresh foods, but I also have absolutely no problem tossing some of my farm fresh food with pasta for dinner. My only problem with frozen meals is they don't taste as good as mine.0 -
Hmm, as for frozen meals, none are farm fresh or my thing, but I imagine a lower cal one like an Amy's Light and Lean is often more nutritious than a Marie Callendar pot pie or Hungry Man thing. It really depends.0
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My pet peeve? Labelled fat-free Jell-O. It's always been fat-free. Gelatin is naturally fat-free.
I also hate lowered-fat peanut butter because they added SUGAR to "improve" it's taste. Besides, all the vitamins are in the fat!
The lowered fat margarines are just dreadful, all of them, because they replace the fat with WATER and that makes for soggy toast.0 -
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They don't have to add anything to make cottage cheese "fat free."
Some people have medical issues that make them reduce the fat. Many people reduce the fat just to avoid the calories it brings. Both are perfectly valid reasons.0 -
I just think it's all moderation. Weight loss is hard and for some people starting out, incorporating some processed low fat stuff like frozen dinners can be a step in the right direction and helps with portion control. By the same token, eating all-natural stuff is fine and good but not if you eat too much of it. Sure, in a perfect world, everyone would eat a reasonable amount of healthy, fresh, organic, unprocessed food. That's not always easy or realistic, so most people find a happy medium. Low-fat processed junk may not be ideal but sometimes it's a step in the right direction when the previous step was high-fat processed junk in mass quantities.0
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Since everyone's going on about dairy and I've apparently confused the whole thread with my title... Here's an example I just took off a coworkers desk..
The packaging says 'eating right for healthy eating' but a quick glance at the nutrition and ingredients shows it has 480 mg of salt and a plethora of ingredients that I can't even pronounce..
I understand that some people eat clean like me and wouldn't touch the stuff, and others wood eat this in moderation or in addition to their healthy diet. I'm posting for those that aren't quite sure of what exactly is and isn't good for you... Many people that are beginning their healthy living journey aren't educated on labels and end up grabbing the things that are marketed as healthy without understanding what exactly they are eating.0 -
loeylovesyou wrote: »loeylovesyou wrote: »People. I'm not talking about just dairy... That was just an example.. I'm talking about all the low fat and fat free crap like pasta, chips, ice cream, those healthy eating frozen lunches, etc. all the foods that say in big letters 'fat free' low calorie...
Ok, but the "farm fresh" is what turned it into a discussion about dairy. There's no such thing as a farm fresh bowl of pasta. Well, maybe. But not day to day.
Okay maybe farm fresh isn't the right word.. I wasn't looking for people to go all crazy saying low fat is good for you. I never said it wasn't.. What I AM trying to get across is that a lot of the fad diet fat free options that parade around as diet food aren't good for your body. If they are natural and not full of processed junk then by all means it's probably good for you...
The main point here is read the label. I know too many people trying to lose weight and get healthy, but they are eating foods based on the big label in the front stating its low in this and free of that.. Those people ask me how I've stayed so fit and healthy over the years and my answer is I don't buy into the gimmicks. I eat as natural as possible in smart portions and I exercise.
No offense, but you are also here with weight to lose just like a lot of other people. I've made it 20 years past your age and I've never been unhealthy. I do eat a lot of fresh food, but I also eat a bit of junk and premade food. I believe it's all about balance and luck. People can eat healthy and exercise and still get disease.0 -
I'm guessing that the ingredients you don't know are the B vitamin names? There is nothing scary on that label.0
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My pet peeve? Labelled fat-free Jell-O. It's always been fat-free. Gelatin is naturally fat-free.
I also hate lowered-fat peanut butter because they added SUGAR to "improve" it's taste. Besides, all the vitamins are in the fat!
The lowered fat margarines are just dreadful, all of them, because they replace the fat with WATER and that makes for soggy toast.
All the vitamins are not in the fat of peanut butter.0 -
If I go by "if I can't pronounce it don't eat it", I wouldn't be able to eat anything!! Have you seen the "chemicals" in the apples, ohh my!!! O.o
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My pet peeve? Labelled fat-free Jell-O. It's always been fat-free. Gelatin is naturally fat-free.
I also hate lowered-fat peanut butter because they added SUGAR to "improve" it's taste. Besides, all the vitamins are in the fat!
The lowered fat margarines are just dreadful, all of them, because they replace the fat with WATER and that makes for soggy toast.
It is the peanuts that are natural in most of the B vitamins and protein.0 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »I'm guessing that the ingredients you don't know are the B vitamin names? There is nothing scary on that label.
I was thinking the same thing. Most of the ingredients are vegetables or added vitamins. Personally, I'd rather not have added vitamins, but I certainly wouldn't call them "unhealthy".0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »loeylovesyou wrote: »loeylovesyou wrote: »People. I'm not talking about just dairy... That was just an example.. I'm talking about all the low fat and fat free crap like pasta, chips, ice cream, those healthy eating frozen lunches, etc. all the foods that say in big letters 'fat free' low calorie...
Ok, but the "farm fresh" is what turned it into a discussion about dairy. There's no such thing as a farm fresh bowl of pasta. Well, maybe. But not day to day.
Okay maybe farm fresh isn't the right word.. I wasn't looking for people to go all crazy saying low fat is good for you. I never said it wasn't.. What I AM trying to get across is that a lot of the fad diet fat free options that parade around as diet food aren't good for your body. If they are natural and not full of processed junk then by all means it's probably good for you...
The main point here is read the label. I know too many people trying to lose weight and get healthy, but they are eating foods based on the big label in the front stating its low in this and free of that.. Those people ask me how I've stayed so fit and healthy over the years and my answer is I don't buy into the gimmicks. I eat as natural as possible in smart portions and I exercise.
No offense, but you are also here with weight to lose just like a lot of other people. I've made it 20 years past your age and I've never been unhealthy. I do eat a lot of fresh food, but I also eat a bit of junk and premade food. I believe it's all about balance and luck. People can eat healthy and exercise and still get disease.
I'm actually not on here to lose weight.. I'm at my goal and have been for years.. I'm on here to maintain while I go through the stress of school and planning my wedding. I know when I stress I tend to not eat enough, so I thought tracking my food intake would help remind me to stop and eat enough.
I also understand there is a balance and it's not easy or convenient to eat clean all the time.. But it's worth it if you can. And I don't know why your saying anything about disease? Nobody ever said eating healthy will save you from that! That's just nature and genetics. I do however believe that some foods can naturally help to boost your immune system to help fight some disease, but no you can't just eat healthy and expect to be disease free..0 -
I feel like the dialogue has gone in the opposite direction, where now most people slam any food that might be considered diet-y and say that cleaner foods are per se healthier. It's not that I don't think clean, or organic, or unprocessed, etc. food is healthy, but many of us are also trying to find a manageable way to reduce calories. Sometimes that means I eat lower fat versions of foods. I love avocados, or real butter, or peanut butter, or full fat cheese, but moderation is difficult af sometimes, so I've learned to make sacrifices here and there.
valid point. if I'm cutting- I pick lower fat options if they don't taste like *kitten*- cheese- does not fall into this category LOL
Then how is this a question? Clearly what you're doing is working- soooooo keep doing what you're doing.I'm actually not on here to lose weight.. I'm at my goal and have been for years..0 -
loeylovesyou wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »loeylovesyou wrote: »loeylovesyou wrote: »People. I'm not talking about just dairy... That was just an example.. I'm talking about all the low fat and fat free crap like pasta, chips, ice cream, those healthy eating frozen lunches, etc. all the foods that say in big letters 'fat free' low calorie...
Ok, but the "farm fresh" is what turned it into a discussion about dairy. There's no such thing as a farm fresh bowl of pasta. Well, maybe. But not day to day.
Okay maybe farm fresh isn't the right word.. I wasn't looking for people to go all crazy saying low fat is good for you. I never said it wasn't.. What I AM trying to get across is that a lot of the fad diet fat free options that parade around as diet food aren't good for your body. If they are natural and not full of processed junk then by all means it's probably good for you...
The main point here is read the label. I know too many people trying to lose weight and get healthy, but they are eating foods based on the big label in the front stating its low in this and free of that.. Those people ask me how I've stayed so fit and healthy over the years and my answer is I don't buy into the gimmicks. I eat as natural as possible in smart portions and I exercise.
No offense, but you are also here with weight to lose just like a lot of other people. I've made it 20 years past your age and I've never been unhealthy. I do eat a lot of fresh food, but I also eat a bit of junk and premade food. I believe it's all about balance and luck. People can eat healthy and exercise and still get disease.
I'm actually not on here to lose weight.. I'm at my goal and have been for years.. I'm on here to maintain while I go through the stress of school and planning my wedding. I know when I stress I tend to not eat enough, so I thought tracking my food intake would help remind me to stop and eat enough.
I also understand there is a balance and it's not easy or convenient to eat clean all the time.. But it's worth it if you can. And I don't know why your saying anything about disease? Nobody ever said eating healthy will save you from that! That's just nature and genetics. I do however believe that some foods can naturally help to boost your immune system to help fight some disease, but no you can't just eat healthy and expect to be disease free..
My bad, your profile says you need to lose weight, so I assumed it was correct. As for disease, what else is meant by "healthy" other than free of disease or disease risk factors?0 -
loeylovesyou wrote: »The packaging says 'eating right for healthy eating' but a quick glance at the nutrition and ingredients shows it has 480 mg of salt and a plethora of ingredients that I can't even pronounce.. .
ingredients you cannot pronounce is simple a result of a lack of education on the subject matter- not an inferior quality product.
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loeylovesyou wrote: »loeylovesyou wrote: »People. I'm not talking about just dairy... That was just an example.. I'm talking about all the low fat and fat free crap like pasta, chips, ice cream, those healthy eating frozen lunches, etc. all the foods that say in big letters 'fat free' low calorie...
Ok, but the "farm fresh" is what turned it into a discussion about dairy. There's no such thing as a farm fresh bowl of pasta. Well, maybe. But not day to day.
Okay maybe farm fresh isn't the right word.. I wasn't looking for people to go all crazy saying low fat is good for you. I never said it wasn't.. What I AM trying to get across is that a lot of the fad diet fat free options that parade around as diet food aren't good for your body. If they are natural and not full of processed junk then by all means it's probably good for you...
The main point here is read the label. I know too many people trying to lose weight and get healthy, but they are eating foods based on the big label in the front stating its low in this and free of that.. Those people ask me how I've stayed so fit and healthy over the years and my answer is I don't buy into the gimmicks. I eat as natural as possible in smart portions and I exercise.
I'm with you and Michael Pollan on the gimmicky claims.
Unhappy Meals
Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.
That, more or less, is the short answer to the supposedly incredibly complicated and confusing question of what we humans should eat in order to be maximally healthy. I hate to give away the game right here at the beginning of a long essay, and I confess that I’m tempted to complicate matters in the interest of keeping things going for a few thousand more words. I’ll try to resist but will go ahead and add a couple more details to flesh out the advice. Like: A little meat won’t kill you, though it’s better approached as a side dish than as a main. And you’re much better off eating whole fresh foods than processed food products. That’s what I mean by the recommendation to eat ”food.” Once, food was all you could eat, but today there are lots of other edible foodlike substances in the supermarket. These novel products of food science often come in packages festooned with health claims, which brings me to a related rule of thumb: if you’re concerned about your health, you should probably avoid food products that make health claims. Why? Because a health claim on a food product is a good indication that it’s not really food, and food is what you want to eat.
Read more: http://michaelpollan.com/articles-archive/unhappy-meals/
Six Rules For Eating Wisely
...Pay no heed to nutritional science or the health claims on packages. It was science that told us margarine made from trans fats is better for us than butter made from cow’s milk. The more I learn about the science of nutrition, the less certain I am that we’ve learned anything important about food that our ancestors didn’t know. Consider that the healthiest foods in the supermarket–the fresh produce–are the ones that don’t make FDA-approved health claims, which typically festoon the packages of the most highly processed foods. When Whole Grain Lucky Charms show up in the cereal aisle, it’s time to stop paying attention to health claims.
Read more: http://michaelpollan.com/articles-archive/six-rules-for-eating-wisely/0 -
anchovy? Huh, do you all think its to sub as the fish sauce that's usually in thai?0
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »I'm guessing that the ingredients you don't know are the B vitamin names? There is nothing scary on that label.
I bet my Thai noodle soup kicks that Thai noodle soup's butt.
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