Ayurvedic nutrition and holistic health
WildePillar
Posts: 120 Member
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone out there practices or studies Ayurvedic nutrition. I feel like I'm gonna get yelled at for posting this on MFP because Ayurveda is not about counting calories for weight loss, but it IS about achieving optimal health by eating for your body type.
Anyway, I recently started looking into Ayurveda after the birth of my infant daughter. If anyone has any good resources, recipes, practices that they'd like to share I would love to hear them! Please feel free to add me
I was wondering if anyone out there practices or studies Ayurvedic nutrition. I feel like I'm gonna get yelled at for posting this on MFP because Ayurveda is not about counting calories for weight loss, but it IS about achieving optimal health by eating for your body type.
Anyway, I recently started looking into Ayurveda after the birth of my infant daughter. If anyone has any good resources, recipes, practices that they'd like to share I would love to hear them! Please feel free to add me
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You won't find much support because of ^^ that truth.
I do wish you luck in whatever path you take.
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Yes.
I am Sri Lankan. I am well aware of Ayurvedic medicine and nutrition because some of my relatives go on and on about it. It is a placebo at best.1 -
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Here's a good resource: http://www.quackwatch.com/04ConsumerEducation/chopra.html0
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My customary post when anything "Ayurvedic" is mentioned.
Bonus! Random Deepak Chopra quote generator!"Eternal stillness exists as the light of photons"1 -
nakedraygun wrote: »My customary post when anything "Ayurvedic" is mentioned.
Bonus! Random Deepak Chopra quote generator!"Eternal stillness exists as the light of photons"
Lol!
My random Chopra-ism: "The world is at the heart of precious choices."0 -
nakedraygun wrote: »
Ooooohhhh I think my eyes just glazed over and I'm now in a zombie like trance. Where can I send all my money??0 -
@WildePillar, as you can see, you are correct that you cannot have a civil conversation about Ayurveda here. Maybe check out this thread and reach out to the OP and other pro-Ayurvedic people there: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10167622/ayurvedic-nutrition-for-weight-loss-and-general-sanity/p11
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ceoverturf wrote: »nakedraygun wrote: »
Ooooohhhh I think my eyes just glazed over and I'm now in a zombie like trance. Where can I send all my money??
Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »@WildePillar, as you can see, you are correct that you cannot have a civil conversation about Ayurveda here. Maybe check out this thread and reach out to the OP and other pro-Ayurvedic people there: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10167622/ayurvedic-nutrition-for-weight-loss-and-general-sanity/p1
"The unexplainable comprehends subjective miracles"
Random Deepak Chopra quote0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »@WildePillar, as you can see, you are correct that you cannot have a civil conversation about Ayurveda here. Maybe check out this thread and reach out to the OP and other pro-Ayurvedic people there: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10167622/ayurvedic-nutrition-for-weight-loss-and-general-sanity/p1
What's uncivil about pointing out that something is pseudoscience?
ETA Random Chopraism: "Qualia embraces total acceptance of neural networks." Embraces it so hard.0 -
nakedraygun wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »@WildePillar, as you can see, you are correct that you cannot have a civil conversation about Ayurveda here. Maybe check out this thread and reach out to the OP and other pro-Ayurvedic people there: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10167622/ayurvedic-nutrition-for-weight-loss-and-general-sanity/p1
"The unexplainable comprehends subjective miracles"
Random Deepak Chopra quote
Holy Deepak...after that quote in convinced. The science sounds rock solid!!0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »@WildePillar, as you can see, you are correct that you cannot have a civil conversation about Ayurveda here. Maybe check out this thread and reach out to the OP and other pro-Ayurvedic people there: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10167622/ayurvedic-nutrition-for-weight-loss-and-general-sanity/p1
Yes, it's great when people in comfortable, safe Western environments wax lyrical and romanticise about indigenous practices when those practices can actively harm people in developing countries.
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crystalewhite wrote: »ceoverturf wrote: »nakedraygun wrote: »
Ooooohhhh I think my eyes just glazed over and I'm now in a zombie like trance. Where can I send all my money??
Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption
I see you are a fan of John Oliver. They don't actually want seeds.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »@WildePillar, as you can see, you are correct that you cannot have a civil conversation about Ayurveda here. Maybe check out this thread and reach out to the OP and other pro-Ayurvedic people there: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10167622/ayurvedic-nutrition-for-weight-loss-and-general-sanity/p1
Yes, it's great when people in comfortable, safe Western environments wax lyrical and romanticise about indigenous practices when those practices can actively harm people in developing countries.
Exactly.
Like the belief in "Traditional Chinese Medicine" that is lending itself to the wholesale extinction of endangered animals like these.- Tiger
- Black Rhino
- Rhinoceros
- Chinese Alligator
- Asian Elephant
- Musk Deer
- Sun Bear
- Grevy’s Zebra
- Banteng
- Hawksbill Sea Turtle
- Seahorse
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kshama2001 wrote: »@WildePillar, as you can see, you are correct that you cannot have a civil conversation about Ayurveda here. Maybe check out this thread and reach out to the OP and other pro-Ayurvedic people there: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10167622/ayurvedic-nutrition-for-weight-loss-and-general-sanity/p1
Yes, it's great when people in comfortable, safe Western environments wax lyrical and romanticise about indigenous practices when those practices can actively harm people in developing countries.
Do elaborate about how Ayurveda hurts people in India. I look forward to running this by my Indian colleagues and getting their take on the matter.
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kshama2001 wrote: »@WildePillar, as you can see, you are correct that you cannot have a civil conversation about Ayurveda here. Maybe check out this thread and reach out to the OP and other pro-Ayurvedic people there: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10167622/ayurvedic-nutrition-for-weight-loss-and-general-sanity/p1
Well, according to that thread, it apparently was abusive for me to say let white people know that acting like ancient attempts at medicine is profound simply because it is fetishizing it for coming from the East (Ayurvedic) instead of the West (blood letting).0 -
dont complain about something u are not aware of ,its surprising how people can believe in yoga but not ayurveda which exists together.For some people's information ,i would like to tell u that in my family we still use and follow ayurveda and have seen amazing results with it...please be educated ,because this site is all about educating yourself .If we are not aware something .doesnt mean its not true.0
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kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »@WildePillar, as you can see, you are correct that you cannot have a civil conversation about Ayurveda here. Maybe check out this thread and reach out to the OP and other pro-Ayurvedic people there: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10167622/ayurvedic-nutrition-for-weight-loss-and-general-sanity/p1
Yes, it's great when people in comfortable, safe Western environments wax lyrical and romanticise about indigenous practices when those practices can actively harm people in developing countries.
Do elaborate about how Ayurveda hurts people in India. I look forward to running this by my Indian colleagues and getting their take on the matter.
I'm Sri Lankan as I said further up the thread.
I have had personal experience of very poor, very vulnerable, very hopeless people getting ripped off by Ayurvedic "medical" practitioners leading to worsening of conditions which modern medicine could have dealt with.
But please, do ask your Indian friends their opinion.1 -
dont complain about something u are not aware of ,its surprising how people can believe in yoga but not ayurveda which exists together.For some people's information ,i would like to tell u that in my family we still use and follow ayurveda and have seen amazing results with it...please be educated ,because this site is all about educating yourself .If we are not aware something .doesnt mean its not true.
Give me a testable claim -- a claim that is falsifiable as to what Ayurveda can achieve and then we can discuss "education." Deepak Chopra claims it can stop aging if you "metabolise" correctly. And as we can see, that's a specious claim if there ever was one.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »@WildePillar, as you can see, you are correct that you cannot have a civil conversation about Ayurveda here. Maybe check out this thread and reach out to the OP and other pro-Ayurvedic people there: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10167622/ayurvedic-nutrition-for-weight-loss-and-general-sanity/p1
Yes, it's great when people in comfortable, safe Western environments wax lyrical and romanticise about indigenous practices when those practices can actively harm people in developing countries.
Do elaborate about how Ayurveda hurts people in India. I look forward to running this by my Indian colleagues and getting their take on the matter.
I'm Sri Lankan as I said further up the thread.
I have had personal experience of very poor, very vulnerable, very hopeless people getting ripped off by Ayurvedic "medical" practitioners leading to worsening of conditions which modern medicine could have dealt with.
But please, do ask your Indian friends their opinion.
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If the opinions by your friends are opinions of those by "true believers" then you are not really bringing any quality evidence to the table. Any claim must have evidence commensurate in quality to the claim.kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »@WildePillar, as you can see, you are correct that you cannot have a civil conversation about Ayurveda here. Maybe check out this thread and reach out to the OP and other pro-Ayurvedic people there: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10167622/ayurvedic-nutrition-for-weight-loss-and-general-sanity/p1
Yes, it's great when people in comfortable, safe Western environments wax lyrical and romanticise about indigenous practices when those practices can actively harm people in developing countries.
Do elaborate about how Ayurveda hurts people in India. I look forward to running this by my Indian colleagues and getting their take on the matter.
Sorry, but opinions don't hold much water.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »@WildePillar, as you can see, you are correct that you cannot have a civil conversation about Ayurveda here. Maybe check out this thread and reach out to the OP and other pro-Ayurvedic people there: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10167622/ayurvedic-nutrition-for-weight-loss-and-general-sanity/p1
Yes, it's great when people in comfortable, safe Western environments wax lyrical and romanticise about indigenous practices when those practices can actively harm people in developing countries.
Do elaborate about how Ayurveda hurts people in India. I look forward to running this by my Indian colleagues and getting their take on the matter.
I'm Sri Lankan as I said further up the thread.
I have had personal experience of very poor, very vulnerable, very hopeless people getting ripped off by Ayurvedic "medical" practitioners leading to worsening of conditions which modern medicine could have dealt with.
But please, do ask your Indian friends their opinion.
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Here's something from the link DeguelloTex shared above:Significant Risk
In 2003, a survey of Ayurvedic herbal products manufactured in South Asia and sold in Boston-area stores found that 14 of 70 products (20%) contained concentrations of lead, mercury, and/or arsenic that—if the products were taken according to directions—would exceed published regulatory standards. The authors also noted that ayurvedic theory attributes important therapeutic roles to mercury and lead and that perhaps 35-40% of medicines in the Ayurvedic formulary contain at least one metal. The authors concluded that users of Ayurvedic medicine may be at risk for heavy metal toxicity, and testing of Ayurvedic HMPs for toxic heavy metals should be mandatory [6]. Several studies done in other countries have had similar findings. Another survey published in 2008 found potentially harmful heavy metals in many more ayurvedic products. After identifying 673 products on 25 Web sites, the researchers randomly selected 230, received and analyzed 193, and found that one fifth of them contained heavy metals in amounts that exceeded standards for acceptable daily intake [7]. In 2012, the CDC reported six cases of lead poisoning among foreign-born pregnant women in New York City who had taken ayurvedic products [8].
That, of itself, it concerning.
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Here's something from the link DeguelloTex shared above:Significant Risk
In 2003, a survey of Ayurvedic herbal products manufactured in South Asia and sold in Boston-area stores found that 14 of 70 products (20%) contained concentrations of lead, mercury, and/or arsenic that—if the products were taken according to directions—would exceed published regulatory standards. The authors also noted that ayurvedic theory attributes important therapeutic roles to mercury and lead and that perhaps 35-40% of medicines in the Ayurvedic formulary contain at least one metal. The authors concluded that users of Ayurvedic medicine may be at risk for heavy metal toxicity, and testing of Ayurvedic HMPs for toxic heavy metals should be mandatory [6]. Several studies done in other countries have had similar findings. Another survey published in 2008 found potentially harmful heavy metals in many more ayurvedic products. After identifying 673 products on 25 Web sites, the researchers randomly selected 230, received and analyzed 193, and found that one fifth of them contained heavy metals in amounts that exceeded standards for acceptable daily intake [7]. In 2012, the CDC reported six cases of lead poisoning among foreign-born pregnant women in New York City who had taken ayurvedic products [8].
That, of itself, it concerning.
That is definitely concerning.
"Another survey published in 2008 found potentially harmful heavy metals in many more ayurvedic products. After identifying 673 products on 25 Web sites, the researchers randomly selected 230, received and analyzed 193, and found that one fifth of them contained heavy metals in amounts that exceeded standards for acceptable daily intake [7]"
That's actually terrifying. Heavy metal poisoning is so damaging to a person.0 -
yes ,people dealing with ayurveda are not doing justice...doesnt mean that ayurveda is not.....i know my mother supporting western medicine her whole life died of asthama whereas my MIL was saved by ayurveda and yoga ..after dealing with kidney problem her whole life...so yes i have my reasons to believe in ayurveda and u have urs not to....0
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That's not evidence, but anecdotes.yes ,people dealing with ayurveda are not doing justice...doesnt mean that ayurveda is not.....i know my mother supporting western medicine her whole life died of asthama whereas my MIL was saved by ayurveda and yoga ..after dealing with kidney problem her whole life...so yes i have my reasons to believe in ayurveda and u have urs not to....0
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