Ayurvedic nutrition and holistic health

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  • ericGold15
    ericGold15 Posts: 318 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    I guess my digestion is a Prius in that I think it would be near impossible to jump start it.
    Funny :smiley:

    In defense of the Prius though, it can be jump started just fine. However, you do not want to use a Prius to jump start another car. I bought a battery charger/jumper I keep in the car. Good for Prius, any other car that needs a start, and my phone when I find it is dead at an inopportune time.

  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    evileen99 wrote: »

    QFT.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    msf74 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    msf74 wrote: »
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    @WildePillar, as you can see, you are correct that you cannot have a civil conversation about Ayurveda here. Maybe check out this thread and reach out to the OP and other pro-Ayurvedic people there: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10167622/ayurvedic-nutrition-for-weight-loss-and-general-sanity/p1

    Yes, it's great when people in comfortable, safe Western environments wax lyrical and romanticise about indigenous practices when those practices can actively harm people in developing countries.

    Do elaborate about how Ayurveda hurts people in India. I look forward to running this by my Indian colleagues and getting their take on the matter.

    I'm Sri Lankan as I said further up the thread.

    I have had personal experience of very poor, very vulnerable, very hopeless people getting ripped off by Ayurvedic "medical" practitioners leading to worsening of conditions which modern medicine could have dealt with.

    But please, do ask your Indian friends their opinion.

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  • jmule24
    jmule24 Posts: 1,382 Member
    evileen99 wrote: »

    Welllllll......for people who believe in this magical stuff it might be of help to them. I'm just trying to help the OP.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    Clearly there are scams in health foods like every other industry.

    I use Shilajit Powder and have been scammed with fake stuff but I did not take it because there are ways of testing grossly fake shilajit on Youtube for example. Is it full of lead, etc? I do not know. I find Sunfood shilajit power to appear to be of good quality so I use a helping in my 800 calorie cup of coffee each morning.

    Be careful of non stop scams in the health food/dieting markets.

    sunfood.com/shilajit-extract-powder-100g-high-himalayan-sourced.html
  • tincanonastring
    tincanonastring Posts: 3,944 Member
    jmule24 wrote: »
    evileen99 wrote: »

    Welllllll......for people who believe in this magical stuff it might be of help to them. I'm just trying to help the OP.

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  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    Le Sigh.

    There is no such thing as "Western Medicine."

    There is medical science and everything else.
    Yeah, it is a huge false label that tries to make it about racism by people who are actually being a bit racist by fetishizing other culture's ancient treatments. Ask these same people if they want to act on ancient white people's wisdom of bloodletting and they'll rightly say there isn't scientific evidence for it. Yet they'll listen to some guru says to balance their fire yin and water yang by standing on your head and taking herbs they can't identify and they'll listen just because he's Asian, and if you disagree because actual scientific evidence, you're insulting the person's culture.
    This might be a little off topic, but I used to read tons of pseudo-history. Von Däniken, Graham Hancock, Cremo, and even Richard Hoagland, and the same fallacies were made when it came to the architectural/technological/cultural achievements of other, non-white, cultures... like how dare Egyptian's build monuments perplexing to white people today without Extraterrestrial Alien intervention!

    Great comparison @nakedraygun ! I used to read that sort of woo too.

    Also been loving your comments, @senecarr

    "It's true because brown people". Racist or what!

    Sigh.

    To the OP:

    If this doesn't sound like dangerous nonsense, I'm afraid I can't help you:

    http://skepdic.com/ayurvedic.html

    "Ayurvedic treatments are primarily dietary and herbal. As I note elsewhere, dangerous amounts of lead have been found in Ayurvedic medicines, including ghasard, a brown powder given to relieve constipation in babies, and mahayogaraj gugullu, for high blood pressure. A study of shops in the Boston area by Robert Saper et al. found high concentrations of lead, mercury, and arsenic in Ayurvedic medicine. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported 12 cases of lead poisoning in 2004 associated with Ayurvedic remedies in Texas, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, New York, and California.

    "Patients are classified by body types, or prakriti, which are determined by proportions of the three doshas. The doshas allegedly regulate mind-body harmony. Illness and disease are considered to be a matter of imbalance in the doshas. Treatment is aimed at restoring harmony or balance to the mind-body system. Vata, composed of air and space, allegedly governs all movement in the mind and body and must be kept in good balance. Too much vata leads to "worries, insomnia, cramps and constipation....Vata controls blood flow, elimination of wastes, breathing and the movement of thoughts across the mind." Vata also controls the other two principles, Pitta and Kapha. Pitta is said to be composed of fire and water; it allegedly governs "all heat, metabolism and transformation in the mind and body. It controls how we digest food, how we metabolize our sensory perceptions, and how we discriminate between right and wrong." Pitta must be kept in balance, too. "Too much [Pitta] can lead to anger, criticism, ulcers, rashes and thinning hair." Kapha consists of earth and water. "Kapha cements the elements in the body, providing the material for physical structure. This dosha maintains body resistance....Kapha lubricates the joints; provides moisture to the skin; helps to heal wounds; fills the spaces in the body; gives biological strength, vigor and stability; supports memory retention; gives energy to the heart and lungs and maintains immunity...Kapha is responsible for emotions of attachment, greed and long-standing envy; it is also expressed in tendencies toward calmness, forgiveness and love." Too much Kapha leads to lethargy and weight gain, as well as congestion and allergies."

    "It's true because brown people", or dangerous & superstitious nonsense?