Does the fat content in food make you fat?
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You could literally drink 1200 calories worth of olive oil a day and lose weight.0
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Op, I think you have far greater issues than how many grams of fat are in a bag of chips...0
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A calorie surplus, or eating above maintenance calories make you fat.
No specific food or macro will make you fat...0 -
So I have to eat AT LEAST 1644 calories to maintain my weight because that's my BMR?
Any less and I'll lose weight? Is that right?0 -
So I have to eat AT LEAST 1644 calories to maintain my weight because that's my BMR?
Any less and I'll lose weight? Is that right?
No. Your BMR is not your maintenance number. Look up a TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) calculator to find out how around many calories you need to maintain. http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/ You will still lose weight if you eat 1644 calories.
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So I have to eat AT LEAST 1644 calories to maintain my weight because that's my BMR?
Any less and I'll lose weight? Is that right?
No.
Basal Metabolic Rate is the amount of energy expressed in calories that a person needs to keep the body functioning at a complete state of rest, so basically breathing, circulation, control of body temperature, cell growth, brain and nerve function, and contraction of muscles.
To maintain weight you would need to consume the same amount of calories as your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure). TDEE is the number of calories burnt in a day scaling BMR to level of activity. So your total amount of calories used during the day.
To gain weight you eat above your TDEE.
To lose weight you eat below your TDEE.0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »Don't get snarky when i was trying to be helpful. "I can read thanks". Really?You're a male, why are you doing this?
I dont know, maybe because he is trying to have a feminine physique because he performs in drag. I was pointing this out from his profile as a potential reason why he might think it's okay to get this dangerously thin by training to attain an unreasonable physique for a 5'11 male. Seriously? Can i not point this out when your question seems to ignore this?This does not answer WHY one would choose to be unhealthy
MKAY. Maybe because he has an eating disorder?nor why one, YOU would be promoting it.
Where did i promote an eating disorder? I don't see where i ever said "YEAH, GO YOU, EAT YOURSELF INTO STARVATION!".
....can you read?
Defending his reasoning sounds as if you're justifying his position to me.
I didn't defend his reasoning. I said i saw from his profile WHY he likely has the mentality he has. I said as someone from an eating disordered past i recognized immediately his mentality and the VERY dangerous potential.
I commented "Yikes. Seek medical attention" BEFORE you even commented on this thread. I then went on to say "not good? This is classed as anorexia". I then went on to tell the OP to seek medical attention because anorexia is the DEADLIEST mental disorder in existence with up to 20% of sufferers dying from it.
Please tell me again how great your reading apprehension is. How i'm justifying his position. How i'm defending his reasoning. Please.
If not, please move along.0 -
This ^rainbowbow wrote: »My friends always say that I need to seek medical attention, and that I have body dysmorphic disorder. But I seriously see something huge when I look in the mirror... I fail to see what could fix that other than losing weight.
Help.
Your friends are right.
As someone who had disordered eating in her young teens, i know all too well that mentality when i see it. You think losing weight will fix it? I gaurantee it will not. You will lose weight, and STILL hate the way you look. You will never be good enough. You will continue on a downward spiral that can lead to SERIOUS health problems and even DEATH.
FACT: Anorexia Nervosa has the highest rate of death out of ANY MENTAL ILLNESS. Between 5-20% of people diagnosed with Anorexia will die from it.
Luckily you are still within a SOMEWHAT acceptable BMI, but your goal weight is not. You are starting down a dangerous path and you should see someone to help you ASAP. Get serious about the problem. If we see it, if your friends and loved ones see it, but you CANNOT see it. You may need help admitting where you are and with body dysmorphia.
You don't need to lose weight OP, you should start lifting to gain some muscle definition. That can help you like your own skin.
And please do speak to your Dr, 9st would be low for a female your height. Good luck x
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So I have to eat AT LEAST 1644 calories to maintain my weight because that's my BMR?
Any less and I'll lose weight? Is that right?
No.
Basal Metabolic Rate is the amount of energy expressed in calories that a person needs to keep the body functioning at a complete state of rest, so basically breathing, circulation, control of body temperature, cell growth, brain and nerve function, and contraction of muscles.
To maintain weight you would need to consume the same amount of calories as your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure). TDEE is the number of calories burnt in a day scaling BMR to level of activity. So your total amount of calories used during the day.
To gain weight you eat above your TDEE.
To lose weight you eat below your TDEE.
So will my body burn 1644 calories a day by itself?
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midwesterner85 wrote: »My friends always say that I need to seek medical attention, and that I have body dysmorphic disorder. But I seriously see something huge when I look in the mirror... I fail to see what could fix that other than losing weight.
You are saying you are not happy with how you look. Have you discussed your feelings with a psychologist? Have you discussed your weight loss goals with a physician?
If not, then you need to start with your healthcare team, not MFP.
I haven't discussed it with anyone in a professional position other than a personal trainer at the gym who told me "Seriously, don't lose any weight.", I seem to ignore it when people tell me that. I'm beginning to think maybe I should make an appointment with my doctor though. :-/
Yes. See your doctor before starting any weight loss plan.0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »
I didn't defend his reasoning. I said i saw from his profile WHY he likely has the mentality he has. I said as someone from an eating disordered past i recognized immediately his mentality and the VERY dangerous potential.
I commented "Yikes. Seek medical attention" BEFORE you even commented on this thread. I then went on to say "not good? This is classed as anorexia". I then went on to tell the OP to seek medical attention because anorexia is the DEADLIEST mental disorder in existence with up to 20% of sufferers dying from it.
Please tell me again how great your reading apprehension is. How i'm justifying his position. How i'm defending his reasoning. Please.
If not, please move along.
Defensive much?
Actually, I had yet to see your other response , nor is it important. What is important here is the boy getting help.
Why are you wasting so much energy attacking my person?0 -
My friends always say that I need to seek medical attention, and that I have body dysmorphic disorder. But I seriously see something huge when I look in the mirror... I fail to see what could fix that other than losing weight.
And that is exactly why you need to get professional help. Please see your doctor about this. Please.0 -
Guys, to be clear, my body burns 1644 calories a day (my BMR) without me doing anything regardless of how many calories I eat in that day, right? I.e. if I don't eat 1644 calories, it will still burn 1644 calories?0
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Yes, sir, that is correct, if that is your BMR. You could be sleeping.0
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My friends always say that I need to seek medical attention, and that I have body dysmorphic disorder. But I seriously see something huge when I look in the mirror... I fail to see what could fix that other than losing weight.
You're seeing something in the mirror that isn't there. So losing weight will not help. Please do get professional help.
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http://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/1575987-eating-disorder-resources
The OP's friends, trainer, and people online reading his posts tell him to seek help ... sadly, he refuses. Some people you just can't reach until they hit rock bottom.0 -
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UltimateRBF wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »Don't get snarky when i was trying to be helpful. "I can read thanks". Really?You're a male, why are you doing this?
I dont know, maybe because he is trying to have a feminine physique because he performs in drag. I was pointing this out from his profile as a potential reason why he might think it's okay to get this dangerously thin by training to attain an unreasonable physique for a 5'11 male. Seriously? Can i not point this out when your question seems to ignore this?This does not answer WHY one would choose to be unhealthy
MKAY. Maybe because he has an eating disorder?nor why one, YOU would be promoting it.
Where did i promote an eating disorder? I don't see where i ever said "YEAH, GO YOU, EAT YOURSELF INTO STARVATION!".
....can you read?
Defending his reasoning sounds as if you're justifying his position to me.
I didn't defend his reasoning. I said i saw from his profile WHY he likely has the mentality he has. I said as someone from an eating disordered past i recognized immediately his mentality and the VERY dangerous potential.
I commented "Yikes. Seek medical attention" BEFORE you even commented on this thread. I then went on to say "not good? This is classed as anorexia". I then went on to tell the OP to seek medical attention because anorexia is the DEADLIEST mental disorder in existence with up to 20% of sufferers dying from it.
Please tell me again how great your reading apprehension is. How i'm justifying his position. How i'm defending his reasoning. Please.
If not, please move along.
What's reading apprehension?
She means comprehension.0 -
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Liftng4Lis wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »
I didn't defend his reasoning. I said i saw from his profile WHY he likely has the mentality he has. I said as someone from an eating disordered past i recognized immediately his mentality and the VERY dangerous potential.
I commented "Yikes. Seek medical attention" BEFORE you even commented on this thread. I then went on to say "not good? This is classed as anorexia". I then went on to tell the OP to seek medical attention because anorexia is the DEADLIEST mental disorder in existence with up to 20% of sufferers dying from it.
Please tell me again how great your reading apprehension is. How i'm justifying his position. How i'm defending his reasoning. Please.
If not, please move along.
Defensive much?
Actually, I had yet to see your other response , nor is it important. What is important here is the boy getting help.
Why are you wasting so much energy attacking my person?
Because you were being so unnecessarily rude to me. Especially when I showed nothing but concern for the OP.
edited to add: Also, because I've rebutted every single assumption you made and you have had nothing to say other than try and discredit my statements.0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »
I didn't defend his reasoning. I said i saw from his profile WHY he likely has the mentality he has. I said as someone from an eating disordered past i recognized immediately his mentality and the VERY dangerous potential.
I commented "Yikes. Seek medical attention" BEFORE you even commented on this thread. I then went on to say "not good? This is classed as anorexia". I then went on to tell the OP to seek medical attention because anorexia is the DEADLIEST mental disorder in existence with up to 20% of sufferers dying from it.
Please tell me again how great your reading apprehension is. How i'm justifying his position. How i'm defending his reasoning. Please.
If not, please move along.
Defensive much?
Actually, I had yet to see your other response , nor is it important. What is important here is the boy getting help.
Why are you wasting so much energy attacking my person?
Because you were being so unnecessarily rude to me. Especially when I showed nothing but concern for the OP.
Is showing concern for the OP a bad thing?
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UltimateRBF wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »Don't get snarky when i was trying to be helpful. "I can read thanks". Really?You're a male, why are you doing this?
I dont know, maybe because he is trying to have a feminine physique because he performs in drag. I was pointing this out from his profile as a potential reason why he might think it's okay to get this dangerously thin by training to attain an unreasonable physique for a 5'11 male. Seriously? Can i not point this out when your question seems to ignore this?This does not answer WHY one would choose to be unhealthy
MKAY. Maybe because he has an eating disorder?nor why one, YOU would be promoting it.
Where did i promote an eating disorder? I don't see where i ever said "YEAH, GO YOU, EAT YOURSELF INTO STARVATION!".
....can you read?
Defending his reasoning sounds as if you're justifying his position to me.
I didn't defend his reasoning. I said i saw from his profile WHY he likely has the mentality he has. I said as someone from an eating disordered past i recognized immediately his mentality and the VERY dangerous potential.
I commented "Yikes. Seek medical attention" BEFORE you even commented on this thread. I then went on to say "not good? This is classed as anorexia". I then went on to tell the OP to seek medical attention because anorexia is the DEADLIEST mental disorder in existence with up to 20% of sufferers dying from it.
Please tell me again how great your reading apprehension is. How i'm justifying his position. How i'm defending his reasoning. Please.
If not, please move along.
What's reading apprehension?
She means comprehension.
That's awkward then, considering she was calling you out for your reading "apprehension." Oopsies!
I meant comprehension. Unlike the above poster i'm willing to admit i made a mistake.
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brianpperkins wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »
I didn't defend his reasoning. I said i saw from his profile WHY he likely has the mentality he has. I said as someone from an eating disordered past i recognized immediately his mentality and the VERY dangerous potential.
I commented "Yikes. Seek medical attention" BEFORE you even commented on this thread. I then went on to say "not good? This is classed as anorexia". I then went on to tell the OP to seek medical attention because anorexia is the DEADLIEST mental disorder in existence with up to 20% of sufferers dying from it.
Please tell me again how great your reading apprehension is. How i'm justifying his position. How i'm defending his reasoning. Please.
If not, please move along.
Defensive much?
Actually, I had yet to see your other response , nor is it important. What is important here is the boy getting help.
Why are you wasting so much energy attacking my person?
Because you were being so unnecessarily rude to me. Especially when I showed nothing but concern for the OP.
Is showing concern for the OP a bad thing?
I hope not.
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rainbowbow wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »
I didn't defend his reasoning. I said i saw from his profile WHY he likely has the mentality he has. I said as someone from an eating disordered past i recognized immediately his mentality and the VERY dangerous potential.
I commented "Yikes. Seek medical attention" BEFORE you even commented on this thread. I then went on to say "not good? This is classed as anorexia". I then went on to tell the OP to seek medical attention because anorexia is the DEADLIEST mental disorder in existence with up to 20% of sufferers dying from it.
Please tell me again how great your reading apprehension is. How i'm justifying his position. How i'm defending his reasoning. Please.
If not, please move along.
Defensive much?
Actually, I had yet to see your other response , nor is it important. What is important here is the boy getting help.
Why are you wasting so much energy attacking my person?
Because you were being so unnecessarily rude to me. Especially when I showed nothing but concern for the OP.
Is showing concern for the OP a bad thing?
I hope not.
In your attempt to show concern you did answer for him rather than let him give his own reasoning which is an overstep ... you did go to the point of declaring he "has an eating disorder" when you are not qualified to make such a diagnosis ... you subsequently proclaimed what others are willing, or not willing, to do.
As usual, the rudest post is from the person trying to decry people allegedly being rude.
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brianpperkins wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »
I didn't defend his reasoning. I said i saw from his profile WHY he likely has the mentality he has. I said as someone from an eating disordered past i recognized immediately his mentality and the VERY dangerous potential.
I commented "Yikes. Seek medical attention" BEFORE you even commented on this thread. I then went on to say "not good? This is classed as anorexia". I then went on to tell the OP to seek medical attention because anorexia is the DEADLIEST mental disorder in existence with up to 20% of sufferers dying from it.
Please tell me again how great your reading apprehension is. How i'm justifying his position. How i'm defending his reasoning. Please.
If not, please move along.
Defensive much?
Actually, I had yet to see your other response , nor is it important. What is important here is the boy getting help.
Why are you wasting so much energy attacking my person?
Because you were being so unnecessarily rude to me. Especially when I showed nothing but concern for the OP.
Is showing concern for the OP a bad thing?
I hope not.
In your attempt to show concern you did answer for him rather than let him give his own reasoning which is an overstep ... you did go to the point of declaring he "has an eating disorder" when you are not qualified to make such a diagnosis ... you subsequently proclaimed what others are willing, or not willing, to do.
As usual, the rudest post is from the person trying to decry people allegedly being rude.
Stop trying to whiteknight. Seriously. Take a step back and look at the posts objectively instead of trying to defend someone who was snarky and tried to put words in my mouth.
"Answer for him"? He said he has body dysmorphia. He said i "hit the nail right on the head" with his mentality of wanting to have an unrealistic body size. I told him he wants a BMI (less than 17.5) that would CLASS HIM AS ANOREXIC if achieved.
I wasn't rude for correcting the assumption of "me supporting his mentality".0 -
brianpperkins wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »
I didn't defend his reasoning. I said i saw from his profile WHY he likely has the mentality he has. I said as someone from an eating disordered past i recognized immediately his mentality and the VERY dangerous potential.
I commented "Yikes. Seek medical attention" BEFORE you even commented on this thread. I then went on to say "not good? This is classed as anorexia". I then went on to tell the OP to seek medical attention because anorexia is the DEADLIEST mental disorder in existence with up to 20% of sufferers dying from it.
Please tell me again how great your reading apprehension is. How i'm justifying his position. How i'm defending his reasoning. Please.
If not, please move along.
Defensive much?
Actually, I had yet to see your other response , nor is it important. What is important here is the boy getting help.
Why are you wasting so much energy attacking my person?
Because you were being so unnecessarily rude to me. Especially when I showed nothing but concern for the OP.
Is showing concern for the OP a bad thing?
I hope not.
In your attempt to show concern you did answer for him rather than let him give his own reasoning which is an overstep ... you did go to the point of declaring he "has an eating disorder" when you are not qualified to make such a diagnosis ... you subsequently proclaimed what others are willing, or not willing, to do.
As usual, the rudest post is from the person trying to decry people allegedly being rude.
@brianpperkins this is why I like you . you speak what many are thinking.
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It isn't white knighting ... it is contrasting your justifications with your actual actions.rainbowbow wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »brianpperkins wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »Liftng4Lis wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »
I didn't defend his reasoning. I said i saw from his profile WHY he likely has the mentality he has. I said as someone from an eating disordered past i recognized immediately his mentality and the VERY dangerous potential.
I commented "Yikes. Seek medical attention" BEFORE you even commented on this thread. I then went on to say "not good? This is classed as anorexia". I then went on to tell the OP to seek medical attention because anorexia is the DEADLIEST mental disorder in existence with up to 20% of sufferers dying from it.
Please tell me again how great your reading apprehension is. How i'm justifying his position. How i'm defending his reasoning. Please.
If not, please move along.
Defensive much?
Actually, I had yet to see your other response , nor is it important. What is important here is the boy getting help.
Why are you wasting so much energy attacking my person?
Because you were being so unnecessarily rude to me. Especially when I showed nothing but concern for the OP.
Is showing concern for the OP a bad thing?
I hope not.
In your attempt to show concern you did answer for him rather than let him give his own reasoning which is an overstep ... you did go to the point of declaring he "has an eating disorder" when you are not qualified to make such a diagnosis ... you subsequently proclaimed what others are willing, or not willing, to do.
As usual, the rudest post is from the person trying to decry people allegedly being rude.
Stop trying to whiteknight. Seriously. Take a step back and look at the posts objectively instead of trying to defend someone who was snarky and tried to put words in my mouth.
"Answer for him"? He said he has body dysmorphia. He said i "hit the nail right on the head" with his mentality of wanting to have an unrealistic body size. I told him he wants a BMI (less than 17.5) that would CLASS HIM AS ANOREXIC if achieved.
I wasn't rude for correcting the assumption of "me supporting his mentality".
Once again, you are not qualified to diagnose him as anorexic ... or with any other disorder for that matter. You answered to why he would want to be underweight. Your projection based on your past is evident.
Your declaring what others are willing, or not willing, to do is also beyond your scope ... but something you did.
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Once again, you are not qualified to diagnose him as anorexic
Your declaring what others are willing, or not willing, to do is also beyond your scope ... but something you did.
I didn't diagnose him as anything. I said that he is striving to be medically anorexic with a goal weight of less than 17.5 BMI. I said he needs to seek medical attention.
What declaring was said? What did i say he was willing or not willing to do? This one i'm not even sure where you're coming from.0
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