Why is sleep so important for weight loss
CamillaEdwards
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Is this a fact or a bit of a myth? Thanks guys!
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Cortisol, the stress hormone, increases when we diet and when we don't get enough sleep. It impacts weight loss.0
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It's both. The facts aren't there yet to support, really, but it is still a real thing for many people, including me.0
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I don't know anything really about how lack of sleep might impact any biological processes which could affect weight loss, but I do know that for me at least, if I'm tired, I'm more likely to want to eat sweet calorific things and to not resist temptations.0
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Cortisol, the stress hormone, increases when we diet and when we don't get enough sleep. It impacts weight loss.
This.
http://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Article folder/stresscortisol.html
Not the best source material, but best I could find on short notice while at work, on the phone, troubleshooting a remote computer. (lol)0 -
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/29/health/upwave-weight-sleeping/
Not getting enough sleep can cause weight gain.0 -
A couple of things: Lack of sleep can keep someone eating longer. Lack of sleep reduces GH which helps with burning body fat.
We burn more body fat sleeping for 8 hours than we do doing 1 hour of hard exercise.
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Well seems i am special than.
I hardly sleep ( it is more resting)
Normal sleeping pattern for me is 3 hours of solid sleep the rest light or awake
For years and years
And i lose weight just fine.
However i do believe the fact you have to rest your body ( think of muscle repair).
So i force myself for 8 hours in bed....sleeping reading watching tv I go to bed at 12 stand up at 8 every day. But falling asleep can be at 4 or even later lol
And gaining weight from not sleeping is woo...big time... Were do those calories come from?
If that was true than sleeping means losing weight.... that would be a great solution for the overweight problem.
No sleep doesn't impact according to me, rest however yes.
Think of the repair and rest the body needs, and when you are tired your willpower and hunger get for a lot of people worse.
So again i lost weight just fine with my not sleeping pattern.
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I don't know anything really about how lack of sleep might impact any biological processes which could affect weight loss, but I do know that for me at least, if I'm tired, I'm more likely to want to eat sweet calorific things and to not resist temptations.
Same for me. When I'm tired (or hungover) my interest level in eating healthy or within my calorie range is non-existent. My workouts are also not as good.0 -
I'm interested in this. I have actual insomnia and have gone without sleep for 1 - 2 days per week just about as long as I can remember. When I do sleep it's typically 4 - 6 hours max, and I can't remember ever sleeping a full night through without waking up at least once.0
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Cortisol the stress hormone increases when we don't sleep properly. Imagine you have a stress bucket and each night while you sleep you brain processes and empties it. If you're not sleeping you're not dealing with the stress.0
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Cortisol the stress hormone increases when we don't sleep properly. Imagine you have a stress bucket and each night while you sleep you brain processes and empties it. If you're not sleeping you're not dealing with the stress.
Dont you think that is different for each person?
I am not a really stressed person at all lol
And i seem to lose weight just fine
With my couple of hours sleep at night. 0 -
I take melatonin to help with this. I find that I don't always sleep soundly and can feel it in my performance the next day. Melatonin knocks me right out, I sleep more soundly than ever and wake up refreshed. YMMV as some say melatonin gives them horrible nightmares.0
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BecomingBane wrote: »I take melatonin to help with this. I find that I don't always sleep soundly and can feel it in my performance the next day. Melatonin knocks me right out, I sleep more soundly than ever and wake up refreshed. YMMV as some say melatonin gives them horrible nightmares.
GABA is another. Doesn't make you fall asleep, but it helps you sleep deeper.0 -
BecomingBane wrote: »I take melatonin to help with this. I find that I don't always sleep soundly and can feel it in my performance the next day. Melatonin knocks me right out, I sleep more soundly than ever and wake up refreshed. YMMV as some say melatonin gives them horrible nightmares.
GABA is another. Doesn't make you fall asleep, but it helps you sleep deeper.
Know of any potential side effects? My partner can't take melatonin as she is one of the ones who get's horrifying nightmares. We're looking for alternatives for her.0 -
BecomingBane wrote: »BecomingBane wrote: »I take melatonin to help with this. I find that I don't always sleep soundly and can feel it in my performance the next day. Melatonin knocks me right out, I sleep more soundly than ever and wake up refreshed. YMMV as some say melatonin gives them horrible nightmares.
GABA is another. Doesn't make you fall asleep, but it helps you sleep deeper.
Know of any potential side effects? My partner can't take melatonin as she is one of the ones who get's horrifying nightmares. We're looking for alternatives for her.
Not that I know of. My dreams are very vivid on it, but never nightmares. I have frequent nightmares and GABA hasn't specifically caused one. I know a container of 400 servings is around $15 on Bodybuilding.com, so I feel it is worth trying.
You can look up more information tonight. Gamma aminobutyric acid.0 -
BecomingBane wrote: »BecomingBane wrote: »I take melatonin to help with this. I find that I don't always sleep soundly and can feel it in my performance the next day. Melatonin knocks me right out, I sleep more soundly than ever and wake up refreshed. YMMV as some say melatonin gives them horrible nightmares.
GABA is another. Doesn't make you fall asleep, but it helps you sleep deeper.
Know of any potential side effects? My partner can't take melatonin as she is one of the ones who get's horrifying nightmares. We're looking for alternatives for her.
Not that I know of. My dreams are very vivid on it, but never nightmares. I have frequent nightmares and GABA hasn't specifically caused one. I know a container of 400 servings is around $15 on Bodybuilding.com, so I feel it is worth trying.
You can look up more information tonight. Gamma aminobutyric acid.
Thanks, I will. I'm fine with melatonin, but will give it a try to see how it feels. I'll try to get some and see if my partner responds well, if so, problem solved for her.0 -
BecomingBane wrote: »BecomingBane wrote: »BecomingBane wrote: »I take melatonin to help with this. I find that I don't always sleep soundly and can feel it in my performance the next day. Melatonin knocks me right out, I sleep more soundly than ever and wake up refreshed. YMMV as some say melatonin gives them horrible nightmares.
GABA is another. Doesn't make you fall asleep, but it helps you sleep deeper.
Know of any potential side effects? My partner can't take melatonin as she is one of the ones who get's horrifying nightmares. We're looking for alternatives for her.
Not that I know of. My dreams are very vivid on it, but never nightmares. I have frequent nightmares and GABA hasn't specifically caused one. I know a container of 400 servings is around $15 on Bodybuilding.com, so I feel it is worth trying.
You can look up more information tonight. Gamma aminobutyric acid.
Thanks, I will. I'm fine with melatonin, but will give it a try to see how it feels. I'll try to get some and see if my partner responds well, if so, problem solved for her.
You can take GABA and melatonin together. There's a product called Hybern8 that uses both.0 -
Well for one thing (which I think might have been mentioned above) ... I'm not eating when I'm sleeping.
Over the past couple months I have been incredibly busy with a post-graduate course I've been taking while working full-time. I've been staying up till 2 am on a regularly basis, sometimes later, and then getting up about 7:30 am for work. And I've been having a small extra snack in the evenings. I was still losing weight, but much more slowly than I had been.
Also, when I get tired, my body craves carbohydrates to try to compensate for the tiredness ... to try to keep my blood sugar levels up and brain functioning. So I crave that small extra snack in the evenings.
But the course finished on Saturday, and the last three nights I have been able to go to bed at a more reasonable hour (having a little bit of difficulty pushing back the sleep time, but I'm managing 1 am now, instead of 2 am
), and so I haven't felt the need to have that extra snack. 0 -
For me, if I don't get much sleep, it's usually because I've had a big day. Some days I get up at 4am for job A and don't go to bed until 12pm for job B. That's a long time to be awake. If i'm awake and up, i'm also burning more calories than I would if I was asleep.0
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Good info above one biochem process that are increased by sleep.
Also, when you lack sleep your body craves quick energy, which normally is sugars.0 -
I don't know anything really about how lack of sleep might impact any biological processes which could affect weight loss, but I do know that for me at least, if I'm tired, I'm more likely to want to eat sweet calorific things and to not resist temptations.
Agreed. Plus I lose my motivation for working out.0 -
I do think that sleep requirements differ from person to person. However I also think you may be a bit of an anomaly. Most people can't get only 3 hours of solid sleep a night and function well during the day.BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »Cortisol the stress hormone increases when we don't sleep properly. Imagine you have a stress bucket and each night while you sleep you brain processes and empties it. If you're not sleeping you're not dealing with the stress.
Dont you think that is different for each person?
I am not a really stressed person at all lol
And i seem to lose weight just fine
With my couple of hours sleep at night.
When I am suffering from insomnia the next day I generally feel awful. I wouldn't be surprised if I ate more those days as an attempt to keep my energy levels up.
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I have actually weighed myself at a bathroom run and then later when I've had more sleep. I definitely saw the scale drop down, so nevermind the behavioral stuff.......we do lose while sleeping.0
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Yes, it's true. Sleep is when the regulation of ghrelin & leptin occurs... Google it. Too little sleep messes with this. But to be fair, some folks just naturally do fine on as little as 6 hours. It's definitely a sleep 'window.'0
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Sleeping does mean losing weight. That's why most people will weight less in the morning than before they go to bed if they weighed in. One can't eat while sleeping...................unless they're sleep eating.BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »Well seems i am special than.
I hardly sleep ( it is more resting)
Normal sleeping pattern for me is 3 hours of solid sleep the rest light or awake
For years and years
And i lose weight just fine.
However i do believe the fact you have to rest your body ( think of muscle repair).
So i force myself for 8 hours in bed....sleeping reading watching tv I go to bed at 12 stand up at 8 every day. But falling asleep can be at 4 or even later lol
And gaining weight from not sleeping is woo...big time... Were do those calories come from?
If that was true than sleeping means losing weight.... that would be a great solution for the overweight problem.
No sleep doesn't impact according to me, rest however yes.
Think of the repair and rest the body needs, and when you are tired your willpower and hunger get for a lot of people worse.
So again i lost weight just fine with my not sleeping pattern.
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Also, lack of sleep is linked to cardiovascular disease as well as some other chronic issues.
http://www.cdc.gov/sleep/about_sleep/chronic_disease.htm
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Sleeping does mean losing weight. That's why most people will weight less in the morning than before they go to bed if they weighed in. One can't eat while sleeping...................unless they're sleep eating.BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »Well seems i am special than.
I hardly sleep ( it is more resting)
Normal sleeping pattern for me is 3 hours of solid sleep the rest light or awake
For years and years
And i lose weight just fine.
However i do believe the fact you have to rest your body ( think of muscle repair).
So i force myself for 8 hours in bed....sleeping reading watching tv I go to bed at 12 stand up at 8 every day. But falling asleep can be at 4 or even later lol
And gaining weight from not sleeping is woo...big time... Were do those calories come from?
If that was true than sleeping means losing weight.... that would be a great solution for the overweight problem.
No sleep doesn't impact according to me, rest however yes.
Think of the repair and rest the body needs, and when you are tired your willpower and hunger get for a lot of people worse.
So again i lost weight just fine with my not sleeping pattern.
[img]http://tickers.myfitnesspal.com/ticker/show/9506/9916/95 069916.png[/img]
Also, lack of sleep is linked to cardiovascular disease as well as some other chronic issues.
http://www.cdc.gov/sleep/about_sleep/chronic_disease.htm
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I know that lol it was meant as a joke.
But my point is that everybody is different.
I seems to need less sleep than others. Still my weight loss is fine.
Also in my medical check ups nothing out of the ordinary.
I have been tested several times and i just have a very short REM and seems to do good with it. Not tired not stressed etc. And yes ones in a while i just sleep a whole 8 hours But that is maybe ones a month or so. Or when there is something special like a longggg day out with lots of activities etc.
So what i am trying to say is when people can not sleep and have a problem with that yes than you have a real problem indeed.
For me it is not even i can not sleep
I go to bed and relax. Read a bit watch tv whatever... i am not going to toss and turn for hours till i fall asleep. And i am fine. And this is as long as i can remember even when i was young i can remember that my parents went to bed at midnight and i was still awake.
So everybody is different. I need less sleep
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Cool then. I personally am fine with 6 hours of sleep, although I do power naps in the afternoon (30 minutes or less). I am also a light sleeper. I hear just about any weird noise in the house and outside and wake up wide awake. When I wake up in the morning, I don't lag..............I basically jump out of bed and get ready fast. Even growing up I've been that way, so I get where you're coming from.BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »
Sleeping does mean losing weight. That's why most people will weight less in the morning than before they go to bed if they weighed in. One can't eat while sleeping...................unless they're sleep eating.BurnWithBarn2015 wrote: »Well seems i am special than.
I hardly sleep ( it is more resting)
Normal sleeping pattern for me is 3 hours of solid sleep the rest light or awake
For years and years
And i lose weight just fine.
However i do believe the fact you have to rest your body ( think of muscle repair).
So i force myself for 8 hours in bed....sleeping reading watching tv I go to bed at 12 stand up at 8 every day. But falling asleep can be at 4 or even later lol
And gaining weight from not sleeping is woo...big time... Were do those calories come from?
If that was true than sleeping means losing weight.... that would be a great solution for the overweight problem.
No sleep doesn't impact according to me, rest however yes.
Think of the repair and rest the body needs, and when you are tired your willpower and hunger get for a lot of people worse.
So again i lost weight just fine with my not sleeping pattern.
[img]http://tickers.myfitnesspal.com/ticker/show/9506/9916/95 069916.png[/img]
Also, lack of sleep is linked to cardiovascular disease as well as some other chronic issues.
http://www.cdc.gov/sleep/about_sleep/chronic_disease.htm
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IDEA Fitness member
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I know that lol it was meant as a joke.
But my point is that everybody is different.
I seems to need less sleep than others. Still my weight loss is fine.
Also in my medical check ups nothing out of the ordinary.
I have been tested several times and i just have a very short REM and seems to do good with it. Not tired not stressed etc. And yes ones in a while i just sleep a whole 8 hours But that is maybe ones a month or so. Or when there is something special like a longggg day out with lots of activities etc.
So what i am trying to say is when people can not sleep and have a problem with that yes than you have a real problem indeed.
For me it is not even i can not sleep
I go to bed and relax. Read a bit watch tv whatever... i am not going to toss and turn for hours till i fall asleep. And i am fine. And this is as long as i can remember even when i was young i can remember that my parents went to bed at midnight and i was still awake.
So everybody is different. I need less sleep
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It's a vicious cycle as cortisol disrupts sleep even as lack of sleep raises it. So less sleep leads to less restful sleep.0
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There is a direct relationship between metabolism, growth hormone and sleep. As we get older our natural production of growth hormone slows down and we have a tendency to "age" and put on weight. The time that your body produces it's own natural growth hormone is when we are in a deep sleep (beyond REM.) As we get older that is harder to achieve.
Some of the supplements that I take before bed are Melatonin, GABA, L-Arginine and Glycine. This combination helps settle the body and promote the deep sleep you need to repair your body from the rigors of daily life.
One thing that will become apparent very quickly when you take these in this combination is you will have very vivid dreams. Other than that, no side effects.
When your body is producing it's own growth hormone, you suppress your fat cells. My son was prescribed HGH when he was young (no measurable growth between the ages of 6-8) and they warned us that kids on HGH are very slim. They were right.0 -
CamillaEdwards wrote: »Is this a fact or a bit of a myth? Thanks guys!
Truth, because if you get adequate sleep you have the energy to pay attention to calorie goals and move through your activities, as well as put energy into your exercise if you choose to exercise.0
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