November 2015 Running Challenge
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@skippygirlsmom i figured the 5k wouldn't offset the cinnamon roll and thanksgiving but the 8k might bring me closer
@9voice9 the fr235 has an optical hrm
@beachhouse758 don't forget to take time off if you need to. A day or two will most likely not make or break you on the turkey trot0 -
Working on my Christmas List - I'm thinking I want to put a running watch on it. I'm currently using MapMyRun on my phone, and have not had significant problems with it (except when I was trying to run intervals, but I don't do that anymore, working on pacing instead). MMR is pretty much just GPS, and uses that to calculate pace, etc.
I *think* I want GPS and heart rate monitor - but I'm pretty sure I DON'T want a chest strap. I think that'd be aggravating enough that I'd not use it. I know that the strapless HRM is less accurate, but I'm guessing that it'll be self-consistent enough for my purposes (it might not be as accurate as a chest strap, but from run to run, it'll give basically the same info).
My price range is ~$250 or less.
What experiences can you, my cohort, share with me?- Do you use such a device, and what do you like/not like about it?
- Have you used one in the past, but stopped - if so, why?
- What should I be looking for that I've not thought of?
Go to http://www.dcrainmaker.com/product-reviews/garmin (he also does other watch brands as well so go under product reviews). He is the most thorough when it comes to technology reviews. Like @skippygirlsmom said, make a list of all the things you are looking for and check out the different watches that offer the features you are looking for and cross reference that with the product reviews. There are some really great watches that can be found refurbished or used from Ebay or Amazon or Craig's List. My current ForeRunner 220 I got from I bought cheap ($125) from a friend that was upgrading and I am perfectly happy with it. It comes with the HRM chest strap tho. I know you are not looking for the chest strap.
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Date Miles today. Miles for November
11/1 REST DAY
11/2 10 miles - 10
11/3 11 miles - 21
11/4 4 miles - 25 << Recovery Day
11/5 11 miles - 36 << Threshold Day
11/6 6.2 miles - 42.2 << Recovery Day
11/7 15 miles - 57.2 << Long Run (1 week till Huntsville Half)
11/8 REST DAY
11/9 REST DAY
11/10 7 miles - 64.2 << Brueggers taper run (.5 w/u, 2.5 ~ghmp, 4 easy)
11/11 4.1 miles 68.3 << Easy taper run in my neighborhood.
4 more days till the Huntsville Half.
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I'm (almost) 1/3 of the way there and (just over) 1/3 of the way through the month... Have to jump on those runs!
Too bad I'm spending all day today hanging up Christmas lights! I'm trying to get it done because we're supposed to have a wetter/colder winter here in TX and don't want to be high up on my roof when it's cold and rainy...
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@9voice9 Another loyal Garmin user here. I am on my 3rd Garmin, the FR220. As others have said, it uses a chest strap HRM, which is the only drawback. I have read that there is supposed to be an arm band accessory optical HRM available for the FR220, but I have not been able to find it on-line, so it may not have been released yet. If you plan to use your HRM a lot (as I do), I would definitely recommend splurging for a model with the optical HRM because the chest strap can be a pain and is sometimes uncomfortable on long runs. I have never worn it for a marathon because of this, but I would really like to see that data.0
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Working on my Christmas List - I'm thinking I want to put a running watch on it. I'm currently using MapMyRun on my phone, and have not had significant problems with it (except when I was trying to run intervals, but I don't do that anymore, working on pacing instead). MMR is pretty much just GPS, and uses that to calculate pace, etc.
I *think* I want GPS and heart rate monitor - but I'm pretty sure I DON'T want a chest strap. I think that'd be aggravating enough that I'd not use it. I know that the strapless HRM is less accurate, but I'm guessing that it'll be self-consistent enough for my purposes (it might not be as accurate as a chest strap, but from run to run, it'll give basically the same info).
My price range is ~$250 or less.
What experiences can you, my cohort, share with me?- Do you use such a device, and what do you like/not like about it?
- Have you used one in the past, but stopped - if so, why?
- What should I be looking for that I've not thought of?
I just started using the Microsoft Band2 ($250) and I love it! I has GPS, strapless heart rate monitor and a barometer (altitude)! I used to use the Garmin 405 until mine recently crapped out and was more expensive to fix than it was worth. My husband (who uses a Polar HRM with chest strap) was wanting a new watch, too, so he researched a few. He came upon this one after having looked at the FitBit Surge (FitBit's GPS watch). The GPS tracking is great on it, the HR is pretty accurate compared to the Polar and **bonus** you can add a Starbucks app to it and pay from your watch! It's also a sleep tracker, step counter and it gives call and text alerts. It does a whole lot more, but I'm just listing the things I use.
The Band links up to the Microsoft Health App which links up to MFP. There are a couple of known issues right now for some people, but everything does when it's new. The first couple of times, Microsoft Health wouldn't sync to MFP for me. My husband had no issues, so I just had to put a couple of runs in manually. Now it's working fine.
Good luck, there are so many choices out there! Just my two cents on what I use.0 -
November goal 75 miles
11/1 4.42
11/2 rest
11/3 3.18
11/4 9.47
11/5 rest
11/6 3.25
11/7 6.25: 1st (and last ) in my age group!
11/8 redeye to mainland (but 5+ miles walking on the Strip....)
11/9 travel vegas to phoenix.....jetlagged
11/10 5 in the desert: I ain't in the rainforest anymore, Toto! (as I wipe my bloody nose and wet my dry lips...)
11/11 4.21
Total 35.78
Upcoming races:
11/15 Las Vegas RocknRoll 1/2 marathon
3/20 Big Island International 1/2 marathon
Ticker is my goal for 2015 and accumulation to date:
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11/2 -- 4.46
11/7 -- 5.36
11/9 -- 2.23
11/10 - 3.71
Month to Date: 15.76 / 70 Goal0 -
11/1 3.1 @ 11:15 outside in the neighborhood in the rain
11/2 rest
11/3 5.0 @ 10:59 on the treadmill (plus a 1 mile walk and strength training)
11/4 8.2 @ really really slow (16:04) riking (run-hiking, steep, covered with inches of leaves and treacherous fun)
11/5 4.0 @ 12:30 recovery run plus .5 walk on the park trail
11/6 3.25 @ 10:53 on the treadmill (really 3.0 at 10:28, plus .25 at a walk) plus strength training.
11/7 Rest/Life Day
11/8 Rest/Life Day
11/9 5.5 @ 12:30 on the park trail with the doggy--who really enjoyed rolling around in the leaves!
11/10 2.5 @ 11:38 (really 2.25 at 11:07 and a .25 walk) around the neighborhood in the rain.
11/11 6 @ 11:32 on the treadmill (really 5 at 11:00 and 1 at a fast walk/jog) plus strength training
11/12
11/13
11/14
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11/3--5.28 miles
11/4--5.03 miles
11/5--strength training and elliptical
11/6--3 miles
11/7--13.03 (woo hoo)
11/8--rest day
11/9--5.32 miles
11/10-Strong Curves workout A
11/11-5.2 miles
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@skippygirlsmom i figured the 5k wouldn't offset the cinnamon roll and thanksgiving but the 8k might bring me closer
@9voice9 the fr235 has an optical hrm
@beachhouse758 don't forget to take time off if you need to. A day or two will most likely not make or break you on the turkey trot
@moyer566 LOL I've heard that anything eaten within an hour of a race doesn't count 0 -
skippygirlsmom wrote: »@skippygirlsmom i figured the 5k wouldn't offset the cinnamon roll and thanksgiving but the 8k might bring me closer
@9voice9 the fr235 has an optical hrm
@beachhouse758 don't forget to take time off if you need to. A day or two will most likely not make or break you on the turkey trot
@moyer566 LOL I've heard that anything eaten within an hour of a race doesn't count
like birthday cakes are calorie free?0 -
Yesterday was a rare afternoon run. I had a spare 50 minutes and could not resist the cool afternoon. Mongolian bbq for lunch was still being felt making me heavy. All in all, so happy to have been out before dark.
A little behind on my miles, but I think I can get caught up.
Nov 3 - 4.73 walking
Nov 5 - 7.00
Nov 6 - yoga and stretches
Nov 7 - family time
Nov 8 - family time
Nov 9 - 3.2
Nov 10 - 4.59
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OK, I was playing more with Audacity and was able to create a few songs that were synched to 180 bpm and added a metronome in the background. If you are interested, you can download them since I found this website called picosong that I can upload them to. Each foot comes down to the sound of the metronome for 180 steps per minute.
The Who - Eminence Front http://picosong.com/67J3/
Christina Aguilera - Fighter http://picosong.com/67S8/
Katy Perry - Roar http://picosong.com/67Sd/
George Michael - Freedom http://picosong.com/676t/
Let me know if you have any requests. :-) I will make some more.0 -
skippygirlsmom wrote: »@skippygirlsmom i figured the 5k wouldn't offset the cinnamon roll and thanksgiving but the 8k might bring me closer
@9voice9 the fr235 has an optical hrm
@beachhouse758 don't forget to take time off if you need to. A day or two will most likely not make or break you on the turkey trot
@moyer566 LOL I've heard that anything eaten within an hour of a race doesn't count
like birthday cakes are calorie free?
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11/9/15- 5k
11/11/15- 5k
Total-10k
Goal- 20k0 -
I took a vacation day today and was pleasantly surprised to wake up to beautiful weather. It was perfect for a run - sunny and mild out. Today was my first time using Map My Run and I found it way more accurate than my Fitbit which was nice. I averaged 10:03 minute miles which I was happy with, seeing as I ran further than I have previously. All in all an excellent run today!
I'm a little behind on my target for the month so I'm hoping to sneak in a few extra miles over the next couple weeks to get caught back up.
11/01: 6.19
11/03: 4.7
11/05: 3.7
11/09: 5.45
11/11: 6.56
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11/1 - 3.81 C25k W1D3 (.73 + 2.32 + .76)
11/2 - 5.78 walking lunch break + evening walk (3.3 + 2.48)
11/3 - 2.99 C25k W2D1 + continuation of lunch break (2.09 + .9)
11/4 - 1.78 nice, easy, comfortable lunch walk.
11/5 - 3.13 C25k W2D2 + 180 spm practice (2.23 + .9)
11/6 - 4.61 walking lunch break + evening walk (2.36 + 2.25)
11/7 - 2.16 C25k W2D3 (2.16)
11/8 - Full rest/recovery day. Was my 1 yr anniversary for starting to lose weight so I went SHOPPING!!
11/9 - Full rest/recovery day.
11/10 - 6.17 C25k W3D1 + 180 spm practice (2.24 + .7) C25k repeat + 180 spm practice (2.01 + 1.22)
11/11 - 2.8 walking lunch break *noon after the first snowfall of the season. I was overdressed. (Again)*
I am a little worried about C25k W3. From looking at it, it doesn't seem like the transition to running 3 mins is that big of a deal, but it is. And what I don't understand is WHY?? I can go to the lake and jog over 5 miles. Make me try to actually run and it kicks my butt. I did W3D1 at lunch yesterday and didn't like my performance. It felt "off", slow, sluggish. So I repeated W3D1 last night after work. Did even worse. I'm moving forward with W3, but am thinking that I may need to repeat it just to be able to do a full 3 minutes without feeling like a fake. Or should I keep pushing thru to the end? Advice please. I'm frustrated right now.
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@9voice9 - Got the forerunner 225 which is capable of doing some super awesome things, but the reliability of those awesome things is appalling. My "works right the first time" rates by cool function are:
- Wrist based HR monitor - Accurate 80% of the time, way off 20% of the time (requiring removal, cleaning of the sensor, and reattaching). It'll be rare for me to get through a run without a really messed up reading at some point - which wouldn't be so bad if I didn't use their training plans leading to incessant beeping for being "out of zone X" when I'm in it.
- Custom & calendar training plan uploads to watch - 20% of the time - today, it uploaded a whopping 1 run on my training calendar despite having planned runs for the next 5 weeks in my calendar. This requires you to be physically connected as well as it can't upload plans via bluetooth.
- Automatic bluetooth phone synchronization for post-run uploads - 10% of the time - usually requires some sort of reset
- Treadmill guesses of your speed when turning off GPS - usually within 1 minute/mile (either slow if over 9.5 min/mile, and fast if under 9.5 min/mile)
Given the insane price ($299), if I were you, I'd just hold out for the 2nd generation HRM devices and just stick with a strap for now as they aren't that bad (and suspect that deals pop up for refurbished 210s for about $120 w. strap or 110 w. strap that would serve its purpose ok).0 -
11/1 - 3.81 C25k W1D3 (.73 + 2.32 + .76)
11/2 - 5.78 walking lunch break + evening walk (3.3 + 2.48)
11/3 - 2.99 C25k W2D1 + continuation of lunch break (2.09 + .9)
11/4 - 1.78 nice, easy, comfortable lunch walk.
11/5 - 3.13 C25k W2D2 + 180 spm practice (2.23 + .9)
11/6 - 4.61 walking lunch break + evening walk (2.36 + 2.25)
11/7 - 2.16 C25k W2D3 (2.16)
11/8 - Full rest/recovery day. Was my 1 yr anniversary for starting to lose weight so I went SHOPPING!!
11/9 - Full rest/recovery day.
11/10 - 6.17 C25k W3D1 + 180 spm practice (2.24 + .7) C25k repeat + 180 spm practice (2.01 + 1.22)
11/11 - 2.8 walking lunch break *noon after the first snowfall of the season. I was overdressed. (Again)*
I am a little worried about C25k W3. From looking at it, it doesn't seem like the transition to running 3 mins is that big of a deal, but it is. And what I don't understand is WHY?? I can go to the lake and jog over 5 miles. Make me try to actually run and it kicks my butt. I did W3D1 at lunch yesterday and didn't like my performance. It felt "off", slow, sluggish. So I repeated W3D1 last night after work. Did even worse. I'm moving forward with W3, but am thinking that I may need to repeat it just to be able to do a full 3 minutes without feeling like a fake. Or should I keep pushing thru to the end? Advice please. I'm frustrated right now.
Don't get frustrated. I'm a bit confused what is the difference between a "run" and a "jog"? I can pretty much run at an 11:30 mm pace all day (okay not all day), but if I run at a 10:00 mm pace not so much and I'll go out on a limb here and say that is the same for everyone. That is why someone running a one mile race and do a 4:00 min mile but that same person will slow down to a 5:00 to run say a 10K. I'm assuming that is what you mean. If you cannot run the full 3 minutes I would slow down your pace so that you can. I don't know about everyone, but if I have a slow run in the morning I know there is no way I'm going to have a better one later in the day. I'm already tired.
I didn't do C25K so I don't really know the program, but I would say move forward, call it a bad run and move on. If you find you are still having a problem, then I would repeat.
Hang in there, you are doing great. Like everything else, it takes time.0 -
Ended up running mid-day today, so kept things short at 5 miles as the dew point was 75. Off to vegas at the moment (for the R&R half - I'll reach out to @Honunui at some point), so looking forward to running in less humid conditions. Current forecast for the race is about 60 degrees w. 15% humidity which sounds absolutely amazing to me.
11/1 - 4 miles
11/2 - 4 miles
11/3 - 9 miles
11/4 - 6 miles
11/6 - 2 miles
11/8 - 6.2 miles
11/9 - 4 miles
11/10 - 11 miles
11/11 - 5 miles
Total: 51 miles
Target: 220 miles
Remaining: 169 miles0 -
skippygirlsmom wrote: »11/1 - 3.81 C25k W1D3 (.73 + 2.32 + .76)
11/2 - 5.78 walking lunch break + evening walk (3.3 + 2.48)
11/3 - 2.99 C25k W2D1 + continuation of lunch break (2.09 + .9)
11/4 - 1.78 nice, easy, comfortable lunch walk.
11/5 - 3.13 C25k W2D2 + 180 spm practice (2.23 + .9)
11/6 - 4.61 walking lunch break + evening walk (2.36 + 2.25)
11/7 - 2.16 C25k W2D3 (2.16)
11/8 - Full rest/recovery day. Was my 1 yr anniversary for starting to lose weight so I went SHOPPING!!
11/9 - Full rest/recovery day.
11/10 - 6.17 C25k W3D1 + 180 spm practice (2.24 + .7) C25k repeat + 180 spm practice (2.01 + 1.22)
11/11 - 2.8 walking lunch break *noon after the first snowfall of the season. I was overdressed. (Again)*
I am a little worried about C25k W3. From looking at it, it doesn't seem like the transition to running 3 mins is that big of a deal, but it is. And what I don't understand is WHY?? I can go to the lake and jog over 5 miles. Make me try to actually run and it kicks my butt. I did W3D1 at lunch yesterday and didn't like my performance. It felt "off", slow, sluggish. So I repeated W3D1 last night after work. Did even worse. I'm moving forward with W3, but am thinking that I may need to repeat it just to be able to do a full 3 minutes without feeling like a fake. Or should I keep pushing thru to the end? Advice please. I'm frustrated right now.
Don't get frustrated. I'm a bit confused what is the difference between a "run" and a "jog"? I can pretty much run at an 11:30 mm pace all day (okay not all day), but if I run at a 10:00 mm pace not so much and I'll go out on a limb here and say that is the same for everyone. That is why someone running a one mile race and do a 4:00 min mile but that same person will slow down to a 5:00 to run say a 10K. I'm assuming that is what you mean. If you cannot run the full 3 minutes I would slow down your pace so that you can. I don't know about everyone, but if I have a slow run in the morning I know there is no way I'm going to have a better one later in the day. I'm already tired.
I didn't do C25K so I don't really know the program, but I would say move forward, call it a bad run and move on. If you find you are still having a problem, then I would repeat.
Hang in there, you are doing great. Like everything else, it takes time.
I agree with @skippygirlsmom. I call myself a runner, but it is definitely more of a jog. If you can already run 5 miles slowly it seems like you are past the C25K, unless you are using it to increase speed. If that's the case, you probably want to repeat days/weeks as needed. I did do C25K, but I had no running experience. I did repeat one week - I think it was the one when it increased the run to 20 minutes. But many people repeat several weeks.
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I agree with @skippygirlsmom. I call myself a runner, but it is definitely more of a jog. If you can already run 5 miles slowly it seems like you are past the C25K, unless you are using it to increase speed. If that's the case, you probably want to repeat days/weeks as needed. I did do C25K, but I had no running experience. I did repeat one week - I think it was the one when it increased the run to 20 minutes. But many people repeat several weeks.
This is me, too. I "run" somewhere in the neighborhood of an 11 minute-mile (depending on location, hills, the moon, the weather, neptune in retrograde, etc.) and keep up that pace anywhere from 3-9 miles...but bump that up to just a 10-minute mile, and I can do that for only about a mile or two--and that's only on the treadmill. I don't know if I could keep up that pace for 3 minutes on a trail run at all.
It sounds more like @Virkati may be doing more intervals than C25K to me. In which case, there may be better programs for that. I usually just set Map My Run to yell at me every few minutes to run faster.
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@skippygirlsmom @ddmom0811 @5BeautifulDays
Thanks so much for the feedback. My "run" is usually around 14-ish mm. It's getting faster, but slowly. The feedback you all provided helped me get my perspective in order. It never occurred to me to look at it like interval training, but essentially that's what it is. I was feeling like a "fake" because my time is so slow. Never stopped to think that my time will get better with experience. So my game plan is to keep going with C25k but instead of trying to run so much faster than I really can maintain, I'll just speed up a little. That in itself will help me to improve. **ummm, might be a good time to 'fess up that sometimes I can be a little impatient lol.**0 -
Today felt pretty good.
it was beautiful and sunny but COLD. this poor woman was running with her dog for the first time, and she most definitely had a faster pace than I did, but the dog would stop her ever 30 seconds to smell something, so we wound up being accidental running partners for the day. Hah. 
11/02--2.18miles
11/08--4.59
11/09--3.17
11/11--2.67
12.61/40
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01-Nov: 5.26 km – down week
02-Nov: rest
03-Nov: rest
04-Nov: 5.18 km – down week
05-Nov: 4.02 km – 70% humidity but felt much higher.
06-Nov: rest
07-Nov: 4.48 km – torn ankle ligament/avulsion fracture : 6 weeks recovery!
08-Nov: rest
09-Nov: x-rays and physiotherapy
10-Nov: rest
11-Nov: rest
12-Nov: upper body strength training
I realize I won't have much to add to this month, though hope it's okay to log whatever else I can do instead? I'm hoping to go for a very easy, slow 2k walk tomorrow with family.0 -
It was a lazy start to this week, but finally got a run in this evening, and it was a slow 6 miler. Yay! It's been over a year since I was able to hit that distance. I was slow getting back to it (after taking a long break from running-no reason, just laziness) but figured that I needed to slow down some to get that distance in. And boy do I feel slow! But as many of you have discussed, it's keeping up the distance and building the base that will eventually get me more speed (of course more speed is still all relative. I may always be a penguin, but I'm ok with that!).
10/2 5 miles
10/3 3.5 miles
10/5 5.5 miles
10/7 2 miles
10/11 6 miles for a total of 22miles out of a goal of 50.0 -
159 km total run/walked so far.
My goal is 250 km so I'm well on track.0 -
06/11 - 13.5 miles
07/11 - 10.3 km
08/11 - 22.2 miles
09/11 - 10.4 km
10/11 - 13.2 miles
11/11 - 13.4 miles
12/11 - 10.4 km
decent run this morning, very dark and cloudy but pace was decent. had a problem on my left knee, I'm a bit fed up of being ok for a few days, then having a random pain, that than goes - absolutely fine till when I woke up, a weird feeling on the side of the knee, if I wake up the same tomorrow I'll prob don't run
finally got my heart pumping a bit more, it seems to me that I "fall asleep" during a run (and so pace is also affected obviously) and I want to have at least 1 run per week where I want to try to push a little bit
overall I'm pretty happy anyway as I never felt tired this morning, prob had a really bad day on Tuesday
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11/1: 22 miles LR
11/2: 5 miles recovery style
11/3: XT: 15 miles indoor bike
11/4: 10 miles
11/5: 7 miles tempo run (am), 7.2 with the Thursday crew (pm)
11/6: Rest day
11/7: 6 miles
11/8: 15 miles - partly with group, partly solo
11/9: 5 miles
11/10: XT: 30 mins yoga
11/ 11: 6 miles
11/12: 4 miles
Had 6 on the schedule, but some weird, loosey-goosey feelings in my right hamstring made me come back early. RW tells me its probably over-stretched, which is great since how do you un-stretch something?! Lucky that I'm in a taper and can baby it guilt free Going to try to do at least 3 tonight with the group but will abandon the attempt if the 'strings twinge.
A bit bummed though because I just signed up for this Saturday 5k with my team like... Tuesday. And now I won't be able to race it because going fast will irritate the hamstring further, and I don't need that one week out from marathon day. Hmmph.
87.2/150
Upcoming races:
11/14: Harrington Park 5k (USATF-NJ Women's 5k Championships!)
11/22: Philadelphia Marathon
5/1: New Jersey Marathon0
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