has anyone else stopped eating fruit?
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I respectfully disagree that fruit is a waste of calories. For those calories you're getting valuable minerals, vitamins, fibre and water. It's a unprocessed whole food that deserves a place in a healthy diet.
Junk food--now that's a waste of calories
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Lol, I think some of you took what I said a little too literally! Obviously fruit is better than crisps, obviously it is a choice you make, obviously crisps don't fill you up... I was just shocked that my healthy choice was so high in calories...
I think you have some disordered thinking about food. A piece of fruit being between 100-200 calories isn't 'high in calories'. Although if you want something very low in calories, look to the savory fruits like peppers, or to vegetables like celery. You can eat a high volume of those for very few calories.
You need to rethink how you are looking at calories.
lol I don't think I have a disordered way of thinking about food at all, as I said a few times, I didn't actually mean that I would never eat it again, or that crisps are better than fruit... Was merely shocked at how high it was as it is so healthy! My normal breakfast is about 240 calories, so to think that a fruit as a snack would be 170 was surprising....
I'm not sure diagnosing someone with disorders because of one throw away comment is the way forward... Imagine I really did have an ED.....0 -
hamlet1222 wrote: »thelovelyLIZ wrote: »No one ever got fat eating fruit. Fruit is full of good stuff for you and high in fiber to make you feel full. Compare 100 calories of most fruit to 100 calories of any junk food and you're going to get more food for your calories.
Eat your fruit. It's good for you.
If all you ate was fruit, with a deliberate and determined effort I'm sure you could still get fat - although apparently freelee and durian rider (gofruityourself, carbthef**kup.com) are able to consume crazy amounts of fruit (50 bananas a day etc) - my theory is they just do a lot of exercise and are very active generally.
my theory is they're sat on the toilet discharging calories0 -
hamlet1222 wrote: »thelovelyLIZ wrote: »No one ever got fat eating fruit. Fruit is full of good stuff for you and high in fiber to make you feel full. Compare 100 calories of most fruit to 100 calories of any junk food and you're going to get more food for your calories.
Eat your fruit. It's good for you.
If all you ate was fruit, with a deliberate and determined effort I'm sure you could still get fat - although apparently freelee and durian rider (gofruityourself, carbthef**kup.com) are able to consume crazy amounts of fruit (50 bananas a day etc) - my theory is they just do a lot of exercise and are very active generally.
my theory is they're sat on the toilet discharging calories
loll!!!!! probably!!!!!!0 -
I must be really confused. Looking at a Pound of Strawberries that is ~150 calories. Is that high for a pound?
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Lol, I think some of you took what I said a little too literally! Obviously fruit is better than crisps, obviously it is a choice you make, obviously crisps don't fill you up... I was just shocked that my healthy choice was so high in calories...
I think you have some disordered thinking about food. A piece of fruit being between 100-200 calories isn't 'high in calories'. Although if you want something very low in calories, look to the savory fruits like peppers, or to vegetables like celery. You can eat a high volume of those for very few calories.
You need to rethink how you are looking at calories.
lol I don't think I have a disordered way of thinking about food at all, as I said a few times, I didn't actually mean that I would never eat it again, or that crisps are better than fruit... Was merely shocked at how high it was as it is so healthy! My normal breakfast is about 240 calories, so to think that a fruit as a snack would be 170 was surprising....
I'm not sure diagnosing someone with disorders because of one throw away comment is the way forward... Imagine I really did have an ED.....
Persimmons (Sharon fruit) are like fruit candy! Haha. Quite high in sugar (natural of course. Not good or bad, just contributes to a higher calorie content). Things like that I save for a rainy day, special/one-off occasion. They actually have them in the supermarket right now and I bought one because of this thread, its in my oven ripening up (Old Wives Tale my grandmother taught me)! Haha. Most of my fruit is the low-cal variety (melons/berries/apples).0 -
thelovelyLIZ wrote: »No one ever got fat eating fruit. Fruit is full of good stuff for you and high in fiber to make you feel full. Compare 100 calories of most fruit to 100 calories of any junk food and you're going to get more food for your calories.
Eat your fruit. It's good for you.
If I've hit my calorie goal for the day and I eat fruit over and above that, it will impact my weight. Yes, fruit can provide more food for the calories. But the calories in it still matter.
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markrgeary1 wrote: »I must be really confused. Looking at a Pound of Strawberries that is ~150 calories. Is that high for a pound?
no, because fruit is mainly water. A pound of dry rice would be over 1000 calories. Perhaps a "serving" is the thing to compare ?
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Be careful in assuming every calorie is equal. Mathematically, it may be, but to pass on fruit and have chocolate or crisps instead would be a mistake. Treat yourself, but 8/10 times choose the fruit.
On the other hand, sometimes people overconsume fruit because they think it's natural. It still changes to sugar in your body, so if you are trying to lose weight stick to 1-2 pieces of lower carb fruit a day and bulk up on the veggies and protein. Just MO0 -
Be careful in assuming every calorie is equal. Mathematically, it may be, but to pass on fruit and have chocolate or crisps instead would be a mistake. Treat yourself, but 8/10 times choose the fruit.
On the other hand, sometimes people overconsume fruit because they think it's natural. It still changes to sugar in your body, so if you are trying to lose weight stick to 1-2 pieces of lower carb fruit a day and bulk up on the veggies and protein. Just MO
Nonsense. it doesn't matter what you eat. As long as you are in a calorie deficit, you will lose weight. Period. And if you eat nothing but fruit, you won't be very healthy. Your body needs fats and proteins as well.0 -
Why the heck would I stop eating my favorite foods? I eat far more than the recommended daily number of fruit portions.0
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Yes terrible fruit do high in calories... sugar too... I will have my fave only on occassion when they are cheap apples, bananas, grapes plums cherries melons0
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retailwizard1 wrote: »Yes terrible fruit do high in calories... sugar too... I will have my fave only on occassion when they are cheap apples, bananas, grapes plums cherries melons
My apple last night was about 70 calories. I don't think it is THAT high.0 -
I eat tons of apples in the fall (I have a CSA, and eat what I get), and find them quite filling for the calories (which don't seem that high to me either). I don't consider melons or plums or cherries high either.
Bananas are higher, but hardly tough to fit -- depends on how much you like them. (I don't like grapes, so no opinion on them.) I seem to recall mangoes being pretty high cal, eh.0 -
markrgeary1 wrote: »I must be really confused. Looking at a Pound of Strawberries that is ~150 calories. Is that high for a pound?
no, because fruit is mainly water. A pound of dry rice would be over 1000 calories. Perhaps a "serving" is the thing to compare ?
That is a serving! It's fruit, nice tasty low calorie fruit!
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amyrebeccah wrote: »hamlet1222 wrote: »thelovelyLIZ wrote: »No one ever got fat eating fruit. Fruit is full of good stuff for you and high in fiber to make you feel full. Compare 100 calories of most fruit to 100 calories of any junk food and you're going to get more food for your calories.
Eat your fruit. It's good for you.
If all you ate was fruit, with a deliberate and determined effort I'm sure you could still get fat - although apparently freelee and durian rider (gofruityourself, carbthef**kup.com) are able to consume crazy amounts of fruit (50 bananas a day etc) - my theory is they just do a lot of exercise and are very active generally.
my theory is they're sat on the toilet discharging calories
loll!!!!! probably!!!!!!
Like Margaret Cho did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF1pIMgE8FA
And yeah, Freelee and her boyfriend do a ton of exercise.
Freelee is a terrible example of anyone to be taking advice from, or using as an example of anything except what not to do.0 -
I get what you mean
When I was looking for ways to eat more healthily about a month ago, I tried to see what I could replace with different options that were better for me or less calories. The saturday night curry came around and although I usually like to have two mini naans rather than rice with the curry, on the spur of the moment I assumed that rice would be less calories. On logging it later on, it turned out to be only marginally better calorie-wise. Pfffft! Mini-naan all the way from now on. 
Regarding fruit, I have a banana every day and love it. But yeah, it's a bummer when you think you're choosing the better option and it turns out to have more calories than you thought! The calorie gods are so cruel.0 -
I get what you mean When I was looking for ways to eat more healthily about a month ago, I tried to see what I could replace with different options that were better for me or less calories. The saturday night curry came around and although I usually like to have two mini naans rather than rice with the curry, on the spur of the moment I assumed that rice would be less calories. On logging it later on, it turned out to be only marginally better calorie-wise. Pfffft! Mini-naan all the way from now on.
Regarding fruit, I have a banana every day and love it. But yeah, it's a bummer when you think you're choosing the better option and it turns out to have more calories than you thought! The calorie gods are so cruel.
As long as it fits in your calorie goals, it doesn't matter.0 -
I stopped eating fruit for the same reason, too high in calories to be worth it. But now I'm getting lower and lower on calories and thinking I need to go back to fruit to feel fuller again.0
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Yeah I don't really eat fruit. Maybe once per week or not even. I would rather have a cookie or couple ounces of meat0
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Ashtoretet wrote: »I stopped eating fruit for the same reason, too high in calories to be worth it. But now I'm getting lower and lower on calories and thinking I need to go back to fruit to feel fuller again.
If you are having issues with feeling full, fats and protein are much more likely to help you with success, and also to help you reach calorie goals as well.0 -
I'm sure at some point they lack the enzymes to digest that many carbohydrates or bypass what is physiologically possible to digest...malabsorption.hamlet1222 wrote: »thelovelyLIZ wrote: »No one ever got fat eating fruit. Fruit is full of good stuff for you and high in fiber to make you feel full. Compare 100 calories of most fruit to 100 calories of any junk food and you're going to get more food for your calories.
Eat your fruit. It's good for you.
If all you ate was fruit, with a deliberate and determined effort I'm sure you could still get fat - although apparently freelee and durian rider (gofruityourself, carbthef**kup.com) are able to consume crazy amounts of fruit (50 bananas a day etc) - my theory is they just do a lot of exercise and are very active generally.
Fruit just seems like a waste in comparison to other foods much denser in nutrients...I.e kale, organ meat, eggs, etc.0 -
markrgeary1 wrote: »markrgeary1 wrote: »I must be really confused. Looking at a Pound of Strawberries that is ~150 calories. Is that high for a pound?
no, because fruit is mainly water. A pound of dry rice would be over 1000 calories. Perhaps a "serving" is the thing to compare ?
That is a serving! It's fruit, nice tasty low calorie frui
Save us the commercial. A pound is not a serving.
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of course i log it when i eat, the problem I find is that psychologically my 170 calories on a piece of fruit could almost be a packet of salt and vinegar crisps..... yummmmmm ( ye i know macros etc)
True but the overall volume of food will be more generally which should be more effective at keeping you fuller. The crisps will be say 40g and the sharon fruit will be closer to 200g (so almost 5 times more).
Excately. If I have 170 calories to spare I'd rather spend in on fruit as it has som many feel good things going for it, keeping me full being one of them. A packet of crisps, does not fill me, leaves me probably yearning for more of the crips and with a not full stomach in a danger zone.
Honestly it has been tested a few times. I choose fruit over just about any other 'treat' My fruit is my daily treat.0 -
What about eating lower calorie fruits?
Raw apricots
Blueberries
Strawberries
Blackberries
Water melon
Fresh cranberries
Papaya
Or eat a range of different coloured vegetables instead, they tend to be lower calorie options.
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You are all right in that fruit is important, I could have lower calorie fruit etc. and in actual fact I haven't cut out fruit completely! Before using MFP, when I was attempting to lose weight, fruit and vegetable would be interchangeable in my eyes, I would grab whichever tickled my fancy, because both of them are "free" on Slimming World and therefore it didn't matter.
Now that I weigh and count so carefully, this has changed dramatically! I can almost always grab a cucumber or tomato, I can't just "grab" a fruit whenever I want is basically what I was implying... Prior to MFP, I would never have thought that I would have to restrict fruit intake... That's it... no eating disorder, no misunderstanding, no bingeing on crisps etc0 -
You are all right in that fruit is important, I could have lower calorie fruit etc. and in actual fact I haven't cut out fruit completely! Before using MFP, when I was attempting to lose weight, fruit and vegetable would be interchangeable in my eyes, I would grab whichever tickled my fancy, because both of them are "free" on Slimming World and therefore it didn't matter.
Now that I weigh and count so carefully, this has changed dramatically! I can almost always grab a cucumber or tomato, I can't just "grab" a fruit whenever I want is basically what I was implying... Prior to MFP, I would never have thought that I would have to restrict fruit intake... That's it... no eating disorder, no misunderstanding, no bingeing on crisps etc
People on these boards sometimes use the phrase "disordered eating" a little carelessly. I have been diagnosed multiple times as anorexic and orthorexic, lol. Don't sweat it.
Yes, when you're counting calories, EVERYTHING counts. Things like Weight Watchers and Slimming World have a different kind of program - and it can work, too! - and their rules don't apply when counting calories. After you've been counting for a while, you will notice that fruits and veggies give you a good deal of vitamins and minerals for very few calories. You may very well find that they're the most filling foods around, too. Fiber hangs out longest in the stomach, so it makes sense that many people feel fuller for longer when eating fibrous fruits and veggies. 0 -
You are all right in that fruit is important, I could have lower calorie fruit etc. and in actual fact I haven't cut out fruit completely! Before using MFP, when I was attempting to lose weight, fruit and vegetable would be interchangeable in my eyes, I would grab whichever tickled my fancy, because both of them are "free" on Slimming World and therefore it didn't matter.
Now that I weigh and count so carefully, this has changed dramatically! I can almost always grab a cucumber or tomato, I can't just "grab" a fruit whenever I want is basically what I was implying... Prior to MFP, I would never have thought that I would have to restrict fruit intake... That's it... no eating disorder, no misunderstanding, no bingeing on crisps etc
Cucumbers and tomatoes are both fruit.0 -
I love fruit and it's healthy; I make it work in my daily calorie goal and eat some every day.
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I just can't justify the calories and carbs, so my fruit eating is minimal and rare. If you can work it in, there's no reason to give it up. If you can't, then that's ok too. Just make sure your other food choices help make up the nutrient differences.0
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