Why Aren't Japanese People Fat?

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  • victoriavoodoo
    victoriavoodoo Posts: 343 Member
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    BTW, there is a great deal of information on this all over the web... Just search for Japanese diet vs. American diet.


    How many times are you going to post without reading the article or responses to your other posts? Or maybe you have read them but don't wish to address them?
  • Crochetluvr
    Crochetluvr Posts: 3,143 Member
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    My brother has lived in Japan for more than half his life. His wife is Japanese. Neither of them are fat but my brother still has to watch his weight as he, like most of our family, has a propensity for gaining weight. My SIL doesn't have that problem.
  • allope09
    allope09 Posts: 20
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    Even without reading the article, it's simple. Eat smaller portions AND eat your veggies! The Japanese diet is rich in vegetables and nutrient rich food like seaweed. It's ridiculous how good seaweed is for you. Also, like most Asian diets, it lacks something we eat like crazy here: dairy. Most of the world can't metabolize dairy products anyway and here in the US we consume something like 30lbs of cheese yearly which is basically fat. Also, large amounts of dairy isn't good for things like osteoperosis and other bone diseases because dairy has a ton of protein which leaches calcium not only from your bones, but your blood stream as well. In other words, go easy on the dairy.

    If you need to see what nutrition is recommended go to www.myplate.gov and it has redone dietary standards as opposed to the old food pyramid. Also, www.goveg.com is a great website for the vegan/vegetarians out there.
  • RaggedyPond
    RaggedyPond Posts: 1,487 Member
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    False. Japanese have aisles of different flavored yogurts and they even sell fruit jelly pouches made to add to plain yogurt to give it whatever flavor you want. Personally I like the prune flavored one.

    I almost forgot.. another huge hit is smoothies and strawberry milk.
  • ElliInJapan
    ElliInJapan Posts: 284 Member
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    Even without reading the article, it's simple. Eat smaller portions AND eat your veggies! The Japanese diet is rich in vegetables and nutrient rich food like seaweed. It's ridiculous how good seaweed is for you. Also, like most Asian diets, it lacks something we eat like crazy here: dairy. Most of the world can't metabolize dairy products anyway and here in the US we consume something like 30lbs of cheese yearly which is basically fat. Also, large amounts of dairy isn't good for things like osteoperosis and other bone diseases because dairy has a ton of protein which leaches calcium not only from your bones, but your blood stream as well. In other words, go easy on the dairy.

    LOL at the dairy scare
    Japanese milk is the creamiest I've ever tasted. I'm spoilt for life now.
  • allope09
    allope09 Posts: 20
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    I've lived in Asian countries and I've seen all this before, but when it comes to what people actually eat on a regular basis, it doesn't look like that. My students ate a ton of food with veggies, drank hot soymilk for breakfast, and went easy on the crap. The way meals are planned out is also different and aides to health like the combining of meats, vegetables, starches, hot, spicy and cold dishes. They all work together to give you a more complete meal.
  • RaggedyPond
    RaggedyPond Posts: 1,487 Member
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    Japanese milk is the creamiest I've ever tasted. I'm spoilt for life now.


    Me too! The strawberry milk is my favorite! Nesquick taste like crap.
  • texanintokyo
    texanintokyo Posts: 278 Member
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    I have lived in Japan for the past 7 years and there are fat Japanese people. I work in healthcare and diabetes is on the rise here as well. Mostly thanks to the western diet. Also contrary to popular belief there is a lot of fat in many Japanese foods, especially the meat. However, their portion sizes are much smaller, most Japanese people (especially in the city) don't own a car so even if they commute by train they have to walk to the train, to the office, to the grocery store. In other words they aren't just going from their desk job to the car to the couch.
  • traviswise71
    traviswise71 Posts: 4
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    One word, SUMO!
  • El_Cunado
    El_Cunado Posts: 359 Member
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    Bumping to read later.
  • Karabobarra
    Karabobarra Posts: 782 Member
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    bump
  • fShaw86
    fShaw86 Posts: 878 Member
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    I love this article plus the writer's wry tongue-in-cheek humor. I spent a few years of my childhood in Japan, Hong Kong, and Malaysia, and I definitely don't remember seeing very many overweight people. The sumo wrestlers don't count!

    Personally, I'd like to tweak my brain into self-shaming so I stay in check. But who will be my standard? Definitely not my "huggable" next door neighbor, nor my favorite friend who has "a few extra pounds."
  • JasonT1973
    JasonT1973 Posts: 229 Member
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    Every argument is invalid - sumo comes from Japan.
    \m/
  • jennifershoo
    jennifershoo Posts: 3,198 Member
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    Even without reading the article, it's simple. Eat smaller portions AND eat your veggies! The Japanese diet is rich in vegetables and nutrient rich food like seaweed. It's ridiculous how good seaweed is for you. Also, like most Asian diets, it lacks something we eat like crazy here: dairy. Most of the world can't metabolize dairy products anyway and here in the US we consume something like 30lbs of cheese yearly which is basically fat. Also, large amounts of dairy isn't good for things like osteoperosis and other bone diseases because dairy has a ton of protein which leaches calcium not only from your bones, but your blood stream as well. In other words, go easy on the dairy.

    If you need to see what nutrition is recommended go to www.myplate.gov and it has redone dietary standards as opposed to the old food pyramid. Also, www.goveg.com is a great website for the vegan/vegetarians out there.

    Do you have any scientific articles or peer review studies proving that dairy leaches calcium from the bones? I'd like to read them please. All I can find are articles and blog written by vegan.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
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    Even without reading the article, it's simple. Eat smaller portions AND eat your veggies! The Japanese diet is rich in vegetables and nutrient rich food like seaweed. It's ridiculous how good seaweed is for you. Also, like most Asian diets, it lacks something we eat like crazy here: dairy. Most of the world can't metabolize dairy products anyway and here in the US we consume something like 30lbs of cheese yearly which is basically fat. Also, large amounts of dairy isn't good for things like osteoperosis and other bone diseases because dairy has a ton of protein which leaches calcium not only from your bones, but your blood stream as well. In other words, go easy on the dairy.

    If you need to see what nutrition is recommended go to www.myplate.gov and it has redone dietary standards as opposed to the old food pyramid. Also, www.goveg.com is a great website for the vegan/vegetarians out there.

    Lactose intolerance =/= dairy intolerance. In fact, cheese and yogurt were pretty much created for two purposes, spoilage prevention, and to remove lactose (neither cheese nor yogurt have lactose in them, as the bacteria used in the creation of both foods feed on the lactose and eliminate it.) This is why my wife will get sick from drinking a glass of milk, but can (and sometimes does) eat cheese and yogurt all day with no issues.

    And for the record, cheese and milk are both pretty common in Japan. Roughly 90% of Japanese households consume dairy as a staple food. Maybe next time you should read the article, so you may actually be educated about what you are saying, rather than just making up stuff you know nothing about.
  • grandevampire
    grandevampire Posts: 242
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    My ex sister in law is japanese and she could eat 3 helpings of what we had and still be stick thin. I just hope that one day, or in another life, it comes back to bite her. That's the only way I can think it's fair.....:sick:

    That's what she ate in front of you. As I'm sure you weren't with her 24/7, I'm willing to bet that she consumed less calories overall. Like, she ate those 3 portions, but nothing else that day or just less during the week (calorie cycling).

    I agree. A lot of my skinny friends, sometimes the portion they eat is HUGE, but since they are not "dieting", say that night they might skip dinner coz they are full, and then the next day they would just nibble on small portions coz they are still stuffed from the day before. But for people "dieting" they have (well I have) a dangerous mindset of all or nothing, so a big portion spirals in to binges or days of overeating..

    A bit off-topic from the Japanese, but on topic overall why some people never seem to get fat even though they appear to eat more than you:

    Yep, I'm like that. Now that I'm a bit older, I have some accumulated fat to lose, but I am still "slim" overall. Reminds me of Lyle McDonald's article on how it's usually not true when guys say they have eaten like crazy and still can't gain. Their bodies self-regulate.

    "Almost invariably, when you track these big eaters, they really aren’t eating that much. Research has routinely shown that overweight individuals tend to under-estimate food intake (e.g. they think they are eating much less than they actually are) but in my experience ‘hardgainers’ are doing the opposite: vastly overestimating how much they are actually eating in a given day, or over the span of a week.
    Similarly, although such trainees may get in a lot of food acutely, invariably they often compensate for those high-caloric intakes by lowering calories on the following day (or even in the same day). So while they might remember that one big-assed lunch meal, they won’t remember how they ate almost nothing later in the day because they got full."

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/muscle-gain-mistakes.html

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