diet soda dangers
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the real danger....the one we are all over looking...is the effects of 2nd hand diet soda.
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How about:
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A new 14-year study of 66,118 women (supported by many other previous studies) found that the opposite seems to be true. Diet drinks may be worse than sugar-sweetened drinks, which are worse than fruit juices (but only fresh-squeezed fruit juices).
The study, published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, discovered some frightening facts that should make us all swear off diet drinks and products.
1) Diet sodas raised the risk of diabetes more than sugar-sweetened sodas!
2) Women who drank one 12-ounce diet soda had a 33 percent increased risk of Type 2 diabetes, and women who drank one 20-ounce soda had a 66 percent increased risk.
3) Women who drank diet sodas drank twice as much as those who drank sugar-sweetened sodas because artificial sweeteners are more addictive and are hundreds to thousands of times sweeter than regular sugar.
4) The average diet soda drinker consumes three diet drinks a day.
You might say that people who are overweight and just about to get diabetes drink more diet soda, but they scientifically controlled for body weight. And they found the artificial sweeteners increased diabetes independent of body weight!
UNQUOTE ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/diet-soda-health_b_2698494.html AND http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2013/01/30/ajcn.112.050997)
If drinking diet soda is a persons only vice than irt most probably doesnt have many bad effects however when part of an overall unhealthy lifestyle then that is another story. That being said, avoiding processed foods and drinks is best practice for a healthy long life.0 -
Actually diet soda is horrible for you. I didn't realize this was still a debatable thing. O.o I would be happy to give sources if they are requested. I am currently not on my home computer so will later. Although I hesitate because people tend to go lalala to things they don't want to hear. Also if it is laziness then I don't wish to support that either so.... It is better to do your own research and not just assume everything you hear on tv ads and read in magazines is true. Especially since those sources come from the companies trying to sell the stuff to you. I'll try and remember to get on later and link some good things along with some good books if I can find some.
They used to say smoking wasn't bad also. Are people still denying that? Or is it ok since at least one person mentioned pretty much everything has cancer causing chemicals now? Sadly this is true but if you eat whole foods, especially responsibly organic local food (there are farmer's markets everywhere now) you can avoid most of this. Just because it is hidden in a lot doesn't mean I am gonna say screw it and start chugging things I know are horrible for me.
yes please
The "sources" will be Live strong articles.0 -
The people I know who are hooked on it and the kids I know that grew up on it have puffy bodies. :smokin:0
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How about:
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Artificial Sweeteners
Contrary to popular belief, studies have found that artificial sweeteners such as aspartame can stimulate your appetite, increase carbohydrate cravings, and stimulate fat storage and weight gain. In one of the most recent of such studies8, saccharin and aspartame were found to cause greater weight gain than sugar.
Aspartame is perhaps one of the most problematic. It is primarily made up of aspartic acid and phenylalanine. The phenylalanine has been synthetically modified to carry a methyl group, which provides the majority of the sweetness. That phenylalanine methyl bond, called a methyl ester, is very weak, which allows the methyl group on the phenylalanine to easily break off and form methanol.
You may have heard the claim that aspartame is harmless because methanol is also found in fruits and vegetables. However, in fruits and vegetables, the methanol is firmly bonded to pectin, allowing it to be safely passed through your digestive tract. Not so with the methanol created by aspartame; there it’s not bonded to anything that can help eliminate it from your body.
Methanol acts as a Trojan horse; it's carried into susceptible tissues in your body, like your brain and bone marrow, where the alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH) enzyme converts it into formaldehyde, which wreaks havoc with sensitive proteins and DNA. All animals EXCEPT HUMANS have a protective mechanism that allows methanol to be broken down into harmless formic acid. This is why toxicology testing on animals is a flawed model. It doesn't fully apply to people.
UNQUOTE ( http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/06/10/9-unhealthy-foods.aspx )
Merclola is not exactly known for his unbiased articles and blogs. Also, where are these studies and the support for the claims in his article?0 -
How about:
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A new 14-year study of 66,118 women (supported by many other previous studies) found that the opposite seems to be true. Diet drinks may be worse than sugar-sweetened drinks, which are worse than fruit juices (but only fresh-squeezed fruit juices).
The study, published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, discovered some frightening facts that should make us all swear off diet drinks and products.
1) Diet sodas raised the risk of diabetes more than sugar-sweetened sodas!
2) Women who drank one 12-ounce diet soda had a 33 percent increased risk of Type 2 diabetes, and women who drank one 20-ounce soda had a 66 percent increased risk.
3) Women who drank diet sodas drank twice as much as those who drank sugar-sweetened sodas because artificial sweeteners are more addictive and are hundreds to thousands of times sweeter than regular sugar.
4) The average diet soda drinker consumes three diet drinks a day.
You might say that people who are overweight and just about to get diabetes drink more diet soda, but they scientifically controlled for body weight. And they found the artificial sweeteners increased diabetes independent of body weight!
UNQUOTE ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/diet-soda-health_b_2698494.html AND http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2013/01/30/ajcn.112.050997)
It's interesting, but it's a prospective cohort study that can't establish causation. All you can see is an association. They corrected for wright but not much else. Even the researchers don't dare conclude any causative link:
"We cannot rule out that factors other than ASB consumption that we did not control for are responsible for the association with diabetes, and randomized trials are required to prove a causal link between ASB consumption and T2D."0 -
Frankie:
That's an observational study that doesn't establish causation only correlation.
You need clinical trials.
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In other news: Killing turkeys causes winter.0
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How about:
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A new 14-year study of 66,118 women (supported by many other previous studies) found that the opposite seems to be true. Diet drinks may be worse than sugar-sweetened drinks, which are worse than fruit juices (but only fresh-squeezed fruit juices).
The study, published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, discovered some frightening facts that should make us all swear off diet drinks and products.
1) Diet sodas raised the risk of diabetes more than sugar-sweetened sodas!
2) Women who drank one 12-ounce diet soda had a 33 percent increased risk of Type 2 diabetes, and women who drank one 20-ounce soda had a 66 percent increased risk.
3) Women who drank diet sodas drank twice as much as those who drank sugar-sweetened sodas because artificial sweeteners are more addictive and are hundreds to thousands of times sweeter than regular sugar.
4) The average diet soda drinker consumes three diet drinks a day.
You might say that people who are overweight and just about to get diabetes drink more diet soda, but they scientifically controlled for body weight. And they found the artificial sweeteners increased diabetes independent of body weight!
UNQUOTE ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/diet-soda-health_b_2698494.html AND http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2013/01/30/ajcn.112.050997)
It's interesting, but it's a prospective cohort study that can't establish causation. All you can see is an association. They corrected for wright but not much else. Even the researchers don't dare conclude any causative link:
"We cannot rule out that factors other than ASB consumption that we did not control for are responsible for the association with diabetes, and randomized trials are required to prove a causal link between ASB consumption and T2D."
I didn't even bother to read any of it. Dr Mark Hyman? Not quite as full of lulz as Mercola but close. This thread has been great. Mercola, Infowars, and Dr Mark Hyman. Now we just need an article from Natural News to complete it.0 -
How about:
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A new 14-year study of 66,118 women (supported by many other previous studies) found that the opposite seems to be true. Diet drinks may be worse than sugar-sweetened drinks, which are worse than fruit juices (but only fresh-squeezed fruit juices).
The study, published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, discovered some frightening facts that should make us all swear off diet drinks and products.
1) Diet sodas raised the risk of diabetes more than sugar-sweetened sodas!
2) Women who drank one 12-ounce diet soda had a 33 percent increased risk of Type 2 diabetes, and women who drank one 20-ounce soda had a 66 percent increased risk.
3) Women who drank diet sodas drank twice as much as those who drank sugar-sweetened sodas because artificial sweeteners are more addictive and are hundreds to thousands of times sweeter than regular sugar.
4) The average diet soda drinker consumes three diet drinks a day.
You might say that people who are overweight and just about to get diabetes drink more diet soda, but they scientifically controlled for body weight. And they found the artificial sweeteners increased diabetes independent of body weight!
UNQUOTE ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/diet-soda-health_b_2698494.html AND http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2013/01/30/ajcn.112.050997)
If drinking diet soda is a persons only vice than irt most probably doesnt have many bad effects however when part of an overall unhealthy lifestyle then that is another story. That being said, avoiding processed foods and drinks is best practice for a healthy long life.
How do points 1 and 2 align?
Oh, and actually looking at the study that is being discussed in the article:
"Conclusions: Both SSB consumption and ASB consumption were associated with increased T2D risk. We cannot rule out that factors other than ASB consumption that we did not control for are responsible for the association with diabetes, and randomized trials are required to prove a causal link between ASB consumption and T2D."
where SSB = sugar-sweetened beverages an ASBs are artificially sweetened beverages.
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It's bad for you!? No wonder why I like it so much!!
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I love diet A & W root beer.... just can't get enough of it
Michael
Oh yeah! It is awesome. And the new A&W Ten is even better. As is the Dr Pepper Ten.
Now mix either of these with a little sugar free ice cream and it is heavenly!0 -
Make your own calorie free soda! It's so easy!
1 liter Club Soda
1 serving of stevia sweetener (powder or liquid)
add flavors of choice (vanilla extract for cream soda! about 1.5-2 tsp)
We had dried lavender flowers and made a vanilla lavender soda that was awesome!0 -
How about:
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A new 14-year study of 66,118 women (supported by many other previous studies) found that the opposite seems to be true. Diet drinks may be worse than sugar-sweetened drinks, which are worse than fruit juices (but only fresh-squeezed fruit juices).
The study, published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, discovered some frightening facts that should make us all swear off diet drinks and products.
1) Diet sodas raised the risk of diabetes more than sugar-sweetened sodas!
2) Women who drank one 12-ounce diet soda had a 33 percent increased risk of Type 2 diabetes, and women who drank one 20-ounce soda had a 66 percent increased risk.
3) Women who drank diet sodas drank twice as much as those who drank sugar-sweetened sodas because artificial sweeteners are more addictive and are hundreds to thousands of times sweeter than regular sugar.
4) The average diet soda drinker consumes three diet drinks a day.
You might say that people who are overweight and just about to get diabetes drink more diet soda, but they scientifically controlled for body weight. And they found the artificial sweeteners increased diabetes independent of body weight!
UNQUOTE ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/diet-soda-health_b_2698494.html AND http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2013/01/30/ajcn.112.050997)
It's interesting, but it's a prospective cohort study that can't establish causation. All you can see is an association. They corrected for wright but not much else. Even the researchers don't dare conclude any causative link:
"We cannot rule out that factors other than ASB consumption that we did not control for are responsible for the association with diabetes, and randomized trials are required to prove a causal link between ASB consumption and T2D."
I didn't even bother to read any of it. Dr Mark Hyman? Not quite as full of lulz as Mercola but close. This thread has been great. Mercola, Infowars, and Dr Mark Hyman. Now we just need an article from Natural News to complete it.
I skipped the blog article and went straight to the source. Full text is behind a paywall but the abstract is clear enough.
Prospective cohort, limited correction factors. This is a very preliminary study that weakly establishes some correlation and is a good starting point for further research. The idea that diet soda "raises the risk" of this or that is completely outside the scope of this paper.0 -
sounds legit
sipping on diet cream soda right now, slowly slipping away
While your obesity is causing your to brittle bones to collapse
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the real danger....the one we are all over looking...is the effects of 2nd hand diet soda.
It hits those closest to us...the ones we love!0 -
Here it is!
http://www.naturalnews.com/035070_diet_soda_weight_loss_aspartame.html
Just drink the diet soda if you want one and get on with your life. So sick of all this "don't eat this, don't drink that. You will die from the beetus!"0 -
I hope this article helps you soda drinkers. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/25/woman-drinks-soda-16-years-heart-problems_n_3495446.html0
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Frankie:
That's an observational study that doesn't establish causation only correlation.
You need clinical trials.
Edit:misread at first
Agreed.
The problem is that we are looking to link cause and effect for chronic illnesses, not acute, which is alot harder to do and harder to conduct long term studies on humans for obvious reasons (costs for example)...
As a general point, as measured by the overall sickness of society we have to look at all the information and move to eliminate variables (such as aspartame, etc) and not just remain complacent which we progressively get chronically sicker.
Money is made selling patented goods, not natural ones. There is no lobby defending the potato. But there is a huge one defending GMO.
It is important that we we keep a scientific mind but not eliminate troves of data from analysis either (by always shooting the messenger etc).0 -
lmao this some funny stuff the sun causes cancer too..nowadays everything causes something right? but your list is just funny i would fight someone over my diet pop i love all kinds..EVERYTHING is okay in moderation0
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I hope this article helps you soda drinkers. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/25/woman-drinks-soda-16-years-heart-problems_n_3495446.html
what? Are you serious?0 -
I hope this article helps you soda drinkers. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/25/woman-drinks-soda-16-years-heart-problems_n_3495446.html
Relevant, because drinking diet soda is the same as consuming nothing but soda. And thanks for bringing in HuffPo, another bastion of scientific integrity.
Still missing a Daily Mail article though.0 -
Drinking light soda has the same effect of those smokers that smoke light cigarettes. Except for the toxic artificial sugars.0
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Drinking light soda has the same effect of those smokers that smoke light cigarettes. Except for the toxic artificial sugars.
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What are diet soda and regular soda ingredients? Main ingredients are carbonated water, some sort of color and sugar. You replace the sugar with aspartame to take out the "calories" factor. It's better to make calories count rather than counting calories.0
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Haha funny irrelevant post about your *****.0
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What are the things from a light soda? Other than a stimulant?0
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So are you going to red line your body until the wheels fall off?0
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Diet soda is absolutely toxic for your body. This is an incomplete list of the health issues associated with soda consumption:
Obesity
Diabetes
Heart disease
Liver damage
Insomnia
High Blood Pressure
Osteoporosis
Various cancers
All the diet soda must be why I'm fat, diabetic, full of cancer, and have high blood pressure.
Oh wait.
While the OP's post was silly, so is this response. Ihave smoked more than my share of cigarettes and don't have cancer. Doesn't mean cigs aren't awful for you0
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